Marijuana Vs. Alcohol

[mage3158]

Not to mention marijuana can also lead to heart disease and cancer.

Really?
Give me one case then.
Oh wait that's right, you can't.

 

[jaamal]

They teach you how to make your own beer on Food Network.

Alton Brown is a funny guy.

Yes indeed.
(Microbrew. Good stuff.)

But really, that's not the reason. If you have the means, you can produce whatever you want. Look outside of the US - go south, look at the disputes that drugs cause.

Look at home many farmers In columbia are having there land taken to sell this drug, but nobody thinks about that as they light up...

Think about how many people are thrown in jail for smuggling, trafficing, and disturbtion every year...

People don't see that things can get worse...


Also I know how to make alcohol also, my uncle tought me how I tried and it worked, but I didn't drink it (I did taste it though), it took 3 weeks and I threw it out after a sip to see if it worked...

 

[Infidel Awakening]

Infidel, don't arbitrarily assume I've never done weed before.
I do it at most, twice a month maybe. In fact, midnight madness is on tonight, and my friends got some herb waiting for me.

1. That is not ignorance, perhaps you should use a more logical term next time.
Again, that is just you. Do you think everyone that has ever done weed has the same effects from it as you? Maybe that's where your trite use of the term "ignorance" should have been.
Obviously different people will have different responses to marijuana. Oh wait, according to you, everybody has the same response to it. Where was my head on that one?

2. How is marijuana more attainable after a random age? It is not dependant on age, but more so on your area.

3. Alchohol use is tantamount to marijuana use. And obviously if they only smoked "a little bit", they're not going to have much negative effects.
You may not hear much from heart disease and cancer from marijuana use, but it's still out there.

4. Alcohol may be a depressant, but is it as bad as being under the influence of marijuana? No, because the short-term effects of alcohol don't last as long as marijuanas, and the fact that marijuana is a stronger depressant than alcohol. And you're right, it does effect different people in different ways, just like alcohol.

5. What I'm saying is to keep weed illegal, legalizing it would only produce more problems, so there is no logical reason to legalize it.

I made that assumption based on the fact that what you said is usually said by people who have never so much as tried it. Excuse me for making a wrong assumption.
Also, I never once said it affected everyone the same.
In fact, I mentioned (more than once) quite the contrary, so don't go telling me what my accordances are.

You're absolutely right, and I should have phrased that better.
What I meant was that under the age of 21, alcohol is harder to obtain.
This creates, in many cases, a turn to marijuana as there is nobody to card you for it's purchase.
I should have said that under 21, marijuana is usually obtained more than alcohol.

This is true. Though, I never denied heart complications arising from marijuana use. I merely pointed out that more often, there are medical complications as a result of alcohol consumption.

Here's where I have to disagree. I believe that the effects of alcohol are more severe than those of marijuana, but again, this is just me. Also bear in mind that your opinion of it being lesser, that's just you. While marijuana does last longer, I believe it's much safer. People, in my experiences, have more control while under the influence of marijuana than alcohol. As for your last sentence, this is a complete contradiction to what you claimed that I said at the beginning of your post.

No logical reason? I got a couple for you... Taxation as one. This is a multi-BILLION dollar industry in the U.S. It would also create more jobs.. The money people make from these new jobs would also be taxed...
How about law enforcement as another? The legalization would benefit law enforcement in that officials could spend more time and resources on busting people for the drugs that are actually ruining this country. Meth, Cocaine, etc. Without people getting busted for petty marijuana charges, it would be meth dealers doing time. Think about it...

Please, name some 'problems' it would cause? Don't give me some 'high driving accidents' bullshit, because people drive high as it is. People already use it, so it's not like anything would be new, except of course the things I stated in my previous paragraph.

 

[Fro]

If those are thonly two things you feel then why smoke marijuana? Why not just go jumping off of trees, then air will be all around you with no cotton mouth.



that is sad that the only way you can exscape and let loose is to be drugged up.

Dog, i tried that, shit hurts..

 

[Infidel Awakening]

Why would it be peaceful, because everyone would have a lack of motivation and don't go to work, and then society plummets to the grounds?

These are personality flaws. Marijuana doesn't affect your personality in any way, other than maybe making you cranky when you can't get any lmao.

I don't have much time, I'll add more later...but for now... this is my opinion.

Many instances of domestic violence, many car crashes, and other deaths, yes, are related to alchohol, BUT alchohol isn't a mind altering substance if used in moderation. No matter how much marijuana you smoke, you WILL get high, and you will NOT be in your normal state of mind.

Now first off, many states/restaurants have taken action to stop drunk driving, such as only allowing 2-3 drinks per person for the night (or visit). Again, if used in moderation, alchohol isn't mind altering. Marijuana, however, as I said before, will ALWAYS alter your state of mind, no matter how much or how little you smoke.

Smoking marijuana, like cigarettes, is also bad for your lungs and body. (Common sense, comeon, inhaling smoke into your body? Yumm)
Alchohol on the other hand, again, if drunk in moderation, can tremendously help your heart.

Now, marijuana might not be as lethal as other drugs, and I'm sure you've heard this before, but it's a GATEWAY DRUG.

A lot of people smoke marijuana thinking it's not that bad for them, which sometimes it isn't, as it's also used for pharmaceutical purposes, but then they start to think, well, if I can do weed and not get serious side effects, I can do other mind-altering substances, and they won't be bad either.

You think that's bullshit? I've seen it happen to 3 of my best friends. One is in juvy now for posession and distribution of crack cocaine, and the other two are well on their way there. They're not the same anymore, don't look the same, don't act the same, and what did it all start out with?

Marijuana.


And really, to see that happen, WILL totally change your opinion on this matter, at least I hope so, or else, to be honest, you really don't care about many things, do you.

First off, yes, marijuana is a psychoactive drug. Would you like to know something else, though? So is CAFFEINE..... For all those that didn't know, I'll repeat... Caffeine is a psychoactive drug. Now, do you go out and do stupid shit when you drink some coffee? No, it might get you hyper (you could call this "not in your normal state of mind" as your normal state of mind isn't hyperactivity), but that's it. Similarly, marijuana just makes you feel funny, in a good way. Does your personality change when you drink a bit of coffee? No, and nor when you smoke marijuana.

Bro... I've smoked about three bowls before, to myself, and not felt shit. To say that it doesn't matter how much you smoke, you'll still be the same high, is bullshit. If that was true, I'd have a LOT more money in my pocket than I do. Also, if this were true, I would be able to just take a quick hit from a sneak-a-toke or a bat and be fine. Hence my theoretical saving of money.

Yes, it's bad for you, but also good... It helps regulate blood flow throughout the body. It helps people with heart murmurs, in that it regulates the heartbeat. It eases pain...
Alcohol, on the other hand, is bad for you. Sure, a SINGLE GLASS of RED WINE every night is great for your heart, but who are you trying to kid? Nobody stops at that one glass, especially because red wine is one of the only types of wine that actually tastes decent. I'll say it again, have you ever heard of smoke poisoning? Of course not. But alcohol poisoning is very real. That's exactly what alcohol is, after all.

Rest of your post, complete bullshit. Marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. Whether you try other drugs or not is dependent upon your personality and who you are as a person. I'm not saying it makes you a bad person, but it's not the weed that makes you do other shit.
I have friends who have smoked for over 10 years, and some of their parents, who have smoked for over 40... NONE of them have ever touched anything else, besides alcohol of course. Notice you said your friend, who is in juvenile detention, is in there for possession and distribution. You didn't say use. Meaning your friend may, or may not, have tried the crack cocaine. Though, his intent was to make money off of it. If he wanted to do that, and he was selling crack, he'd buy coke or freebase shit, he wouldn't do crack if he's making money off of it. People do crack because they can't afford better. Crack rakes in a lot of money.

At the same time, sure, I've seen people who have had their lives ruined by drugs, other than marijuana. But this didn't stem from marijuana use, they were bad kids before they smoked bud. It's personality broham, which marijuana does not affect.

Also, lmao @ Fro. That's pretty good.

 

[x⁹]

The problem here is that you're comparing getting absolutely hammered to smoking a bit of weed. Most people DON'T get absolutely hammered that often and you can be FINED and ARRESTED for being intoxicated in public.

 

[Beliar]

Alcohol 120% beats any of those. Both of these things are people killers, how much you drank= how much weed you smoked.

 

[mage3158]

Alcohol 120% beats any of those. Both of these things are people killers, how much you drank= how much weed you smoked.

Nobody has ever died or over dosed from marijuana.
Lurn ur fax befor u speek.

 

[Psybash]

Alcohol 120% beats any of those. Both of these things are people killers, how much you drank= how much weed you smoked.

seriously get your facts straight before posting.

 

[Walk On Home]

seriously get your facts straight before posting.

Yeah you're a whole lot smarter for posting information to contradict him.

 

[own|p1ck]

hmmm... well idk

 

[Walk On Home]

If you don't know then don't post, genius.

 

[Walk On Home]

Really?
Give me one case then.
Oh wait that's right, you can't.

Read this, and this, then kindly go fuck yourself.

 

[Chosen God]

I think that alcohol is more bad than marijuana. The reason I think that is because both of them can get you into car accidents but alcohol can deal more damage and you can get memory loss.

 

[crashcourse]

Both have downsides, I reckon they're both fine if u use em in moderation.

Tho I do agree alcohol had a lot to answer for in its damage to society, in relation Marijuana is plain evil for causing parinoia and generally screwing your personality, but only if u do d stuff every day!

 

[Infidel Awakening]

Both have downsides, I reckon they're both fine if u use em in moderation.

Tho I do agree alcohol had a lot to answer for in its damage to society, in relation Marijuana is plain evil for causing parinoia and generally screwing your personality, but only if u do d stuff every day!

*sigh*
I said it in a previous post, and I'll say it again....
Marijuana does NOT, in any way, affect personality.
If it did, then as would caffeine.
You know, the stuff in coffee that makes you awake and hyperactive?
This is because caffeine, like THC (what gets you high in marijuana), is a psychoactive substance.
They affect your state of mind, and might make you feel loopy for a bit, but they DO NOT affect your personality, no matter the amount you consume.
Please know what you're talking about before you talk about it.

 

[Walk On Home]

There are 10+ neuropsychiatric side effects of marijuana, including depersonalization, aggressiveness, and addictive behaviours...All of which affect your personality.

 

[crashcourse]

*sigh*
I said it in a previous post, and I'll say it again....
Marijuana does NOT, in any way, affect personality.
If it did, then as would caffeine.
You know, the stuff in coffee that makes you awake and hyperactive?
This is because caffeine, like THC (what gets you high in marijuana), is a psychoactive substance.
They affect your state of mind, and might make you feel loopy for a bit, but they DO NOT affect your personality, no matter the amount you consume.
Please know what you're talking about before you talk about it.

Wow wow wow, so your getting your evidence of this from where. I don't know about scientific studies but I know at least 4 guys who smoke Marijuana every day and it affects them mentally more then any alcohol or CAFFEINE ever could. They are completely different people now then when they were in collage due to this drug!

Please know what you're talking about before you talk about it.

(Cheers for the backup Walk On Home)

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

*sigh*
I said it in a previous post, and I'll say it again....
Marijuana does NOT, in any way, affect personality.
If it did, then as would caffeine.
You know, the stuff in coffee that makes you awake and hyperactive?
This is because caffeine, like THC (what gets you high in marijuana), is a psychoactive substance.
They affect your state of mind, and might make you feel loopy for a bit, but they DO NOT affect your personality, no matter the amount you consume.
Please know what you're talking about before you talk about it.

Would you agree that marijuana impairs short term memory?
If so, would that impact personality?

(I'm reading something on serendip, which probably doesn't count as a proper source.)

 

[hockeykid09]

Is weed worse than cigs?