Marijuana Vs. Alcohol

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Marijuana Vs. Alcohol
  1. Unread #1 - Nov 13, 2007 at 4:06 PM
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    Okay, so I've been doing some thinking about the topic of Marijuana and Alcohol. Law says you can't legally drink until the age of 21 if I'm not mistaken. So what about Marijuana? It is illegal by all standards?

    My problem is, what causes so many car accidents and deaths every single year, is it Marijuana? I think not, it is Alcohol that does this.

    Marijuana is used for medicinal purposes such as people with Glaucoma, and chronic pain in the back or other areas of the body. This is because it's an analgesic.

    Marijuana is flat-out illegal. Why? Shouldn't weed have an age requirement too? It certainly does much less damage and causes much less deaths than Alchohol does.

    Think about it, Marijuana can be addictive, or the effects can, and so can Alcohol. But which one causes more of a disruption? People get angry, and abusive and wanting to pick a fight because they are under the influence of alcohol. Alcohol is a depressant.

    Marijuana on the other hand, is a depressant. It helps to relax and soothe pain.

    So why is there an age limit on Alcohol but Marijuana is illegal by any means? Alcohol clearly does more damage than anyone under the influence of Marijuana.

    Please post your thoughts here. I don't want anyone posting any replys that are un-educated or any 1337 speak. Intelligent conversations here.
     
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    "Marijuana on the other hand, is a depressant. It helps to relax and soothe pain."

    soothing pain is the same thing as pain pills, it makes you loopy, it makes you not aware of things that are going on around you.

    weed is pretty much pain pills, but much more powerful.

    i drink. i'm not addicted to it or anything, but i like alchohol, when i drink, i stay at home because i have the sense to do that, not be an idiot, and go driving...

    Mope
     
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    I actually think pain pills would be more pain killer than Marijuana. Although they use Marijuana quite frequently to relieve pain. Overall I think that Marijuana shouldn't be illegal and Alcohol should be.
     
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    Marijuana is medical only to use for pain killer for when aching, but yes this does cause many problems and accidents, some dumb asses get high, and get a loss stage of time, this makes you lose your mind and you get hallucination's which cause accidents. Also, its considered a drug because you can't smoke weed and drive, it causes you to lose control, yet marijuana does not hurt you in a cancerous way like tobacco. Now, the one minor and most effective thing you forgot to add is. If they legalized it then it would be abused. Alcohol is a bad thing cause it effects your body in ways that I'm not sure, but I do know it can effect your kidneys pretty bad. All and all, marijuana is an illegal drug and will probably stay like that, Tighten up your facts and show some more stuff involving tobacco to fight for your cause. :)
     
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    Legalizing something bad because worse things are legal is no grounds for an argument...

    Alcohol is a depressant, not a stimulant as you said. If anything, the fights are caused over impaired judgment than anything else.

    In cases of drunk driving, that's personal responsibility - I don't blame alcohol, I blame the drivers.

    Marijuana is bad - it doesn't help society. Why legalize it?
    (This isn't my actual stance, I love the weed.)
     
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    marjuana all the way, it has almost no long or short term side effects and is not addicting
     
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    billy,its illegal for a reason weed in severe causes can cause blindness,mental retardation and many other things

    But like all things even weed can be oay in moderation i supposebut dont go all jamacan with it and you should be fine.

    i prefer alcohol,though
     
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    1. In my experience, Marijuana does not cause hallucinations.

    2. I'm talking about Mariujana versus Alcohol, not tobacco.

    3. Not necessarily want to legalize it, but I think they have the two substances switched. Alcohol CLEARLY causes extreme damage.


    Some people aren't smart with it, and do it every single day of their life multiple times. This KILLS BRAIN CELLS. Smoking weed that much makes you stupid, and in some cases as you said, mentally retarded. So I agree in moderation it is fine.
     
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    Anything overused is bad for you. If you overdrink, you'll fry your brain. If you oversmoke, you'll fry your brain.

    I think that they're both as bad as each other - which in reality, is not bad at all. There are much worse things out there.

    And for the people that said marijuana can cause mental retardation, what the fuck? Where did you learn that, in a scare campaign at school? Because that is definately NOT true.

    Cheers.
     
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    Well if you ever been high, you would know, for example when i was high last sat, everything was blinking, getting home was hard, it was in normal speed, but my body was moving so slow, dangerous, all i got to say.
     
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    When I drive high I get paranoid which makes my driving a lot better and when I have been drinking a little bit it seems to make my driving worse, and I do think weed should be legal because when you drink you do not give a shit about anything but when I smoke it lets me relax while not impairing my judgment. Weed might be a lot harsher then cigarettes but I do not think the effects of Alcohol are any better then weed.
     
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    I've smoked a few times but really only gotten high once. I was kinda dizzy, everything was spinning. And it was just a strange overall experience. I somehow liked it though and I don't exactly know why. It's probably because it made me laugh, and it was more fun than being bored watching tv. Besides, I even got to makeout with a girl when I was high. So overall it was good.
     
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    There is no part of your statement that is not false.
     
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    Your comparison is slanted. You cannot compare a legal activity to an illegal one because obviously there will be less illegal activities going on therefore lessen the results of the illegal activity making it seem like the legal activity happens more for which it does but that doesn't mean it causes more problems.

    In a simple sense, if marijuana was made legal, you could easily see that it would cause more problems than alcohol, but since it is illegal, it cuts the numbers of the users down by a percentage you wouldn't believe making your comparison void.

    Marijuana basically has some of the same effects of alcohol plus many more, making it obviously worse. Also for the pain treatments and other things, they are given EXTREMELY small doses as so they won't get addicted. No good could come out of it being made legal.
     
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    Alright here we go. first off lemme start with this, vote bill richardson for pres. he's got an open mind to weed!

    ok well some myths and facts

    Marijuana causes brain damage - FALSE! discovered in a 2002 journel of american medical association with heavy smokers (6 joints a day) there has never been any evidence of brain damage

    Marijuana harms the reproductive system - FALSE it can temporaily mess up ovulation schedule and it can lower sperm count for a month before it is back to normal. no permanant damage has ever been found. still smoking marijuana while pregnant is not reccommended

    Cannabis reduces nausea from khemotherapy - True!


    Pot stimulates the appetite of aids victims who often lose theirs - true!

    smoking pot can cause cancer. - false in over 4,000 studies of a marijuana heavy smoker there has never been found a cancerous cell, there have been precancerous cells only that never devolpe. which means no effect on the body!

    marijuana impairs short term memory - false/true marijuana will impair your short term memory only WHILE high. if you smoke enough marijuana it can cause your memory to cease untill you are no longer high.

    legalizing marijuana will reduce the emergency room visits from harder drugs throughout the country - True in 1998, a study legalizing marijuana showed that by legalizing weed it reduced ER visits from harder drugs by 38 percent!

    No one has died directly from marijuana - TRUE! people rarely but have died from decisions made while high but never from weed directly it would take 40,000 grams of marijuana to lower the heart rate enough to kill a person, for those who dont know 1 gram could get the average person high

    marijuana is not physically addiciting- TRUE!
     
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    I agree with you, weed is not as harmful as alchohal. Honestly though, I think that either way you look at it either both should be legal or both illegal. One being "right" and one "wrong" seems silly.
     
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    Good points both of you. I'd like to hear some other people's opinions as well.
     
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    Bill Richardson for VICE pres.
    (seriously.)

    Some good points indeed. But you still state that people will have impaired judgment and from that, will make decisions that may cause death.

    Medicinal marijuana may have its place. Recreational marijuana - more inclined to believe in it now, but you'd need to find a system where it's legalization wouldn't cause an economic shock.
     
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    Actually, there are no record deaths, or side effects from marijuana. Only ciggerets...which aren't really the same..
     
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    i personally think the main reason why marijuana is illegal is because of the dealing and addictive which leads to prostitution and gangs. yes it is less harmful under the influence of it, but if it was legal then we would have to start producing and planting marijuana which would take up space for other fields. also a lot of times why drugs are banned is because people lace them. if you buy weed from a stranger you never know what kind of meth or addictive chemicals they put on it. so i would have to say it should stay illegal.
    just don't get caught =p
     
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