Chimichangaz
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Vouches show that legitimate trades are actually going on. This is suggested quite often.
This would make it extremely difficult for newcomers such as myself to build up vouches.
If you only get vouches for being trusted, and only become trusted by having vouches, isn't that a dead end?
I 100% support this. This is how exactly how I give out my vouches.I'd also like to see more people dividing vouch threads up into trades they went first and trades they went 2nd/used a MM
I'd rather see vouches like this....
Vouch for _____, I went ....... and sold ......via .......
Player B buys 300M off of Player A via WU. Player B vouches for Player A, and Player A vouches for Player B. Player B really didn't deserve a vouch because he's only proving that he bought something going first. It doesn't prove in any way that he won't scam if he doesn't go first.
I would love to see people actually put how much they paid/sold for.
I hate just seeing what the trade was initially for ("Vouch for Firez, he sold me an account"
I want to see details on the vouches.
Edit: and I would also like it for vouches that are from YOU(me) going first don't count.
Me giving Firez 1bil first, and him vouching for me, doesn't mean anything.
He didn't have to put any trust into my hands.
I would vouch for him, since I trusted 500$ in his hands.
I support the op.
Is a feedback system on the DNS list? I think that could work well...have amounts, who went first, a middleman option, etc. Might take some time to make but would be a large improvement over vouches.
This would make it extremely difficult for newcomers such as myself to build up vouches.
If you only get vouches for being trusted, and only become trusted by having vouches, isn't that a dead end?
Vouches show that legitimate trades are actually going on. This is suggested quite often.
I don't think this should be the case. Vouches also give evidence that a trade has been completed and that the two parties were, at that point, satisfied with how the trade had gone. If this were an account sale, Player A could recover the account at a later point - in this case, Player B would have had to have trusted Player A to the extent that he would not recover the account. If this system was implemented and Player B did not get a vouch, proving that Player A had recovered the account would be that much harder.
Other than that, though, I agree.
As stated in the first page.
I don't agree with that. Only because vouches can also determine if the trade was successful. If i dealt with RsProd and went first to him of course and the trade goes good. I feel vouches should both be exchanged because the trade went smooth on both sides.
I agree with the template idea thought, but it would be hard to implement now and if some people don't follow it, what will be the punishments?
Is a feedback system on the DNS list? I think that could work well...have amounts, who went first, a middleman option, etc. Might take some time to make but would be a large improvement over vouches.
This is the kind of shit Aroxez is talking about.
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Edit: It's a picture by the way, not actual text... ;_;
This would completely kill middlemaning, which I think is a really good concept for preventing scams. It miff be better if people just stated they used MMs in vouches
That's sort of the template idea, that the trade was completed. I guess my "logic" was misunderstood.
No support, it proves that he had the intention of not scamming if he completed the trade.
I don't think this should be the case. Vouches also give evidence that a trade has been completed and that the two parties were, at that point, satisfied with how the trade had gone. If this were an account sale, Player A could recover the account at a later point - in this case, Player B would have had to have trusted Player A to the extent that he would not recover the account. If this system was implemented and Player B did not get a vouch, proving that Player A had recovered the account would be that much harder.
Other than that, though, I agree.
Yea but if only one person vouches/is allowed to vouch then that could lead to abuse.
Two vouches indicating that a trade of some object for some form of currency definitely demonstrates that that trade did indeed happen. If only one vouch is allowed/required after each trade, then I think that it would be easier to abuse this fact.
I agree with the template, but am making my argument with your suggestion of only the person who went second getting a vouch after the trade has been completed. I feel that as long as there has been a trade, everyone associated should have the right to a vouch.

