Make it a requirement in name sales to clearly state payment

I've been looking for a name on the name sales forum. I haven't made any posts or something, but it's really irritating to see people bidding on things on threads and just putting "10m bid"...
I don't know whether this is 10m 07 or 10m EOC, so I just leave the thread and don't bother bidding because 90% of the people who post stuff like this aren't serious buyers and usually the seller would assume it's 07 as its the highest price, and would want more. Sometimes you can tell which it is, for example a 1 letter name, if somebody put "50M", i'd assume it's 07, but sometimes you can't tell.

Solution:
1] Make a rule where people have to state the exact currency. For example: 10M 07 bid, instead of just "10m bid".
2] Infract people who don't comply, as normal, as this kinda shows a lack of legitimacy in the offer.

 

I can see how it would get annoying, notwithstanding, I'm indifferent on enforcing it. I think it's a matter of convenience, such that can be controlled by the OP.

 

I agree and I disagree. The OP can report it as spam, and it'll be removed if they do not 'deem it as a legitimate offer, but a rule would hopefully stop this altogether. It's a matter of convenience: not only for the seller, but for the buyer too.

 

I meant that the OP can assert that he or she will not be taking offers seriously if they do not specifically state which game version the gold is coming from.

I just think it would be weird to enforce this. I like the idea of encouraging it, rather than taking action against it. That's pretty harsh.

 

This is actually a good suggestion, although I'm not sure that it will be enforced effectively enough to hold.

 

No support. This is easily fixed by communication from op

 

Support, same is with the account sales! Very confusing sometimes, especially when you don't know the rates of RS3 gold.

 

It doesn't solve anything. I've seen OP's put "RSGP or BTC" or something (for example) and the 'buyer' replies with "10m bid". This is back to square one, unless the OP specifically wants 07 or RS3, communication isn't really the answer. 99% of the people don't care how they receive payment, as long as it's RSGP/BTC or something that cannot be charged back.

That's a fair point, but let's take this slightly out of context. In forums such as this, "support" is 'infractable' and is an offence. This could be 'deemed as a little harsh, don't you think? People are expressing they support a point, but not giving any details as to why. This suggests they are looking to spam, and haven't properly read the thread. It's the same with name sales, "10m bid", suggests they aren't really interested (in most cases) and are just looking for an extra post count. There's no value in the reply.

All rules and laws start from somewhere, it'd only be the same as any other one.

 

I think it's a nitpicky thing to enforce. The OP can enquire if they don't know which currency the bid is in, and if you're in doubt about what currency it is and want to top it, just contact the OP directly for the current bid.

 

I understand that. I also understand it's a 'nitpicky' thing to enforce. However, as I stated, by making this a rule it would stop the need for inconvenience for the seller and potential buyers. It would stop them from making pointless posts or pointless PM's that may not even receive a reply. If this rule was in-place, it would be far more convenient and easy for people browsing the forums. Also take into consideration the traffic, somebody may not want to sign up for Sythe, but may want to purchase a name. I understand you may want to encourage people to sign up, but it's just an example.

Some people are also extremely hard to contact. For example, people who visit sythe 1/2 times a week or less, and people who don't share their Skype name/contact details. This would mean from a potential buyers POV, I would have to contact the seller/bidder to ask what method of RSGP/payment they're willing to bid with, which could potentially cost me time in which I could've spent buying another name if the bid is a currency i'm not prepared to outbid (just an example). I know i'm digging deep here, but the logic is making a rule in my eyes.

I guess it's mainly convenience, but it should stop spam. After all, what is an infraction? It's nothing really, it expires and is basically a warning to stop doing something you shouldn't be.

 

I don't think you should be punished for it, but promoting the currency type is a good idea. Indifferent.

 

Most of the time, bids aren't entertained if they're like that. Majority of bids that turn into sales are clearly defined. It's the op's job to say if they want rs3/07/irl or whatever they're wanting. It's the poster's job to read that and bid in accordance to their request. If they don't specify, it's their loss that the op likely won't pay them any attention. If they do it on a mass scale, that's spamming, and different. As Roary said, it's kind of a minor thing, and I don't think it's really necessary.

 

You hit the nail on your head yourself and still missed the point. By making this a rule it would make OP's pay attention to their offers, and it would stop spam offers. What if a person wants both 07/RS3? The example you've just given is one or the other, and most of the time they don't mind.

I understand where you all are coming from with it being a small thing, but as I mentioned, there are other small(er) things which are infractable offences standing such as "support"

 

This is a problem in all sales though for posts that don't specify currency. I think it's up to the OP if they want to specify a currency that they would like to receive payment in, or if they just want to leave the floor open to bids.

No support, don't think there is a real need for this.

 

I've made my point and put it across. I think the points a few of you guys are making are irrelevant, and where one rule applies on one forum, it doesn't on another. I'll just stop posting now and see where this goes. I just feel, "why not"... It stops spammers and it stops confusion. I don't see why not. Infractions aren't shit unless they build up, and if people realise they've been infracted, they'll stop.

 

Not necessary. And honestly you could just post back on the thread, while quoting them, and ask which currency they are bidding in. That's kind of a way of getting a free bump too ;]

 

as much as there's ton of very simple and useful fixes\ideas for certain thread sections - they'd have to be posted in a form of a sticky; which are never read in the first place, thus essentially useless.

So, yes it's a neat idea; but it's unnecessary\annoying to police.

 

Just sounds like more unnecessary work for the staff here. No support, sorry.

 

If they spam bids often with no obvious intent to legitimately buy the name, then report them for the spam, that's a separate issue. On the other hand, if someone neglects to mention which currency, the seller can simply PM them to inquire further.

And as you said, it's really a minor thing. It's a nice thought, I just don't see it being practical really. I could see this being more of a "suggestion to follow" in the name market, and other markets, but to enforce this would be quite nitpicky, as others have mentioned.

 

this sums it up nicely. we don't enforce this rigorously elsewhere on the forum, so it makes no sense to do so here imo. this is part of the whole "negotiating" thing that we leave up to normal users to navigate on their own; if you can't place or field a coherent offer, you shouldn't be trading with the other party in the first place