Disputing the ruling on this thread.

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  1. Unread #1 - Feb 8, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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    Disputing the ruling on this thread.

    Ihatequesting - Intellectual Property Theft

    Please read the following comparisons and explanations for the current code.

    How the back end functions and things Bogla cannot own as it's public:

    -Bonfire and CI framework used to create the backend.
    -User system
    -Admin theme/layout of content on header
    -his old front end: Gameforest - Gaming Theme HTML
    -back end layout/look is a bonfire template.




    Things I added/created to be used with this framework:

    -MaxMind integration on orders
    -Bitcoin tracking automatically on profiles.
    -Rental system - user creates a rental and it tells you how much GP to collect and processes how much the worker makes for that rent and is added to their profits.

    -automated order verification on user accounts (tells you if you can deliver the gold and if not what procedures to follow)

    -ability to make uploads/profile notes on accounts

    -CS:GO system, you upload your items and set prices for them (Bogla had a link to his inventory on his website).

    -Black list feature: You have the ability to black list names, along with emails from both the website and various payment methods. If a scammer orders the live chat worker gets a message to not deliver.

    many other tweaks/changes to how things function, too much to list/remember.
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    I could in theory just remove the feedback system, the amount spent tracking on the profile page, and swapping and legally the rest is public and or I created what else is used and it would be mine to sell, correct?

    Sythe you're using a RSPS source which would be a direct rip off of the game Runescape, right?
    You're adding onto code you didn't actually help even make from the start so you couldn't even say "I thought I owned it too". We all know they had a much more formal contract for that code and copyright usage than the one Bogla had, yet you're finding ways to go around it? You mentioned on Discord you were looking for places to legally host this stolen game code.


    You just ruled that I was infringing upon "copyright and a contract", you're using stolen game code which you plan to host once you find a country that you can't be sued in. So in reality, you know you're using stolen copyrighted work, you're the site owner and you're just going to go around it because you're above this "law" you set on here, right?


    If your response is you're going to find somewhere the copyright/contracts don't hold up, I'm moving all of these websites to the same hosting and therefore we'd both be under the same "law", yes?

    If you choose to follow one countries laws on contracts/copyright, can't I do the same?
     
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    Disputing the ruling on this thread.

    You're the developer who stole bogla's domain name and forced him to buy it back from you for $2k right?

    So you're a scammer.

    Pay him back then maybe we'll discuss the already closed case that you are not party to.

    This just demonstrates to me how little you understand about copyright.

    1. The RSPS itself is not copyrighted code. It was public-domained by the original authors. Our volunteer community team took that code and has added onto it / fixed a large number of things.

    2. The public 317 client is most likely public domain now via acquiescence, if it can be said to have been Jagex's to begin with (considering it is a rewritten mimic of runescape, not runescape's actual code). But it's beside the point because we do not need to provide a client for people to play our community server. We can let people connect with any 317 client, and it is not our problem/responsibility how they obtain a 317 client or who wrote it, any more than it is our responsibility how our members obtain a web browser to browse sythe.org. Further we do not need to provide a cache as anyone can obtain a runescape cache completely legally by running runescape.

    3. Sythe.org is a private club that offers dispute resolution services to its members. When members bring disputes against eachother these are adjudicated according to our rules and the common law to the extent that we import it from other jurisdictions.

    4. Sythe.org is not a member of itself and is therefore not subject to dispute resolution by itself.

    5. Jagex is not a member of sythe.org therefore it is not eligible for our dispute resolution services. And even if it were, and even if it could open a dispute with us against us, we are not violating its copyright.
     
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    Disputing the ruling on this thread.

    Link here: Disputing the ruling on this thread.


    I'm not part of Boglas domain being stolen, I think you're referring to Quid stealing TokenBets.

    If you're wondering how that was stolen, I'd have to say it was probably because Bogla failed to write a contract and never had the domain in his control. I can guarantee you, you cannot call godaddy or any domain provider and social engineer a domain back in your possession, that's not how that works. The only way for Quid to take it would be he never actually transferred it and repointed elsewhere.

    I'd like my points addressed regarding majority of the code being open source and the remaining being written by me. Bogla cannot request someone to take down their website for using a public theme and public framework.
     
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    Disputing the ruling on this thread.

    The same argument could be made of all code. It all uses public APIs and frameworks, therefore nothing is copyrightable. Obviously this would never stand up in court.

    The fact is that developer(s) were paid to develop something. That something is the intellectual property in question.

    I'm not reopening this case to answer your questions. Go through the thread and read the very lengthy explanations given there. Or better yet educate yourself about how copyright works.
     
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