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    Good use of language techniques... personal pronouns, rhetorical questions, colloquialisms, metaphors. It's what politicians or leaders use in speeches to make their job of convincing people (or brainwashing as you said) easier. You said the government uses fear to enslave people, but aren't you doing the same? Also when you say "continue to think for yourself, because you can only be programmed if you allow yourself to be." I thought you said earlier we were already programmed by our parents, society and media? Or is it that you just want us to drop everything and live in the forest?

    Does this message apply to people living in New Zealand? I mean sure you've gone out on a limb to try and bring the american government down but what about us in New Zealand?

    What if my dreams are to kill someone? Should I follow what you say and do that? What is right or wrong in this new society you promote? Are there rights and wrongs?

    And if everyone did have the wool pulled over their eyes and dropped everything to follow you, where to from then? When everyone has pursued their dreams after living in your new society? Children born into this are going to grow up and do what?

    And people with mental disorders where do they fit into this? Their mind is being controlled. Some cant even think or speak for themselves.
     
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    To address your first question, when you were an infant you had little to no choice in the matter concerning your respective programming. At this point, you have enough free-will to acknowledge the language and choose to accept new information or disregard it. Perhaps for some of you this is not true, and in that case then you are in a predicament that I cannot do much to help you with.

    Nowhere did i mention anything regarding living in the woods, that was rhetoric based on presumptions made by Finn.

    New Zealand, I do not know much of their government off hand, but I can tell you this... the entire system is interconnected and any country that participates under our global economy is unfortunately subject to similar corruptions. This is a global issue.

    The dream to kill someone is a sickness that is a reflection of the society. A child becomes a product of it's environment. There are studies shown of children who were raised by wolves, quite literally, they are called "feral children" that have no exposure to society or human interaction. They behave like wild animals and beyond a certain age they can no longer intergrate into the society because their psychology is such that the points of vulnerable impression that allow a child to be programmed have already been passed.

    Therefore, if your dream is to kill someone it is, in part, a reflection of your environment during vulnerable impression points in your developmental phases as a child, this is the psychological answer at least, yet theologically it comes down to an issue of the human spirit in itself, and the innate corruption of man-kind.

    I would say that I propose a model for a society that operates under the pre-disposition of Love, in other words, raising children to be loving, confident, empowered, and free of guilt and trauma. I promote true communion among people. However, I do not control these things, and a society can only evolve organically based on the needs, desires, and actions of the populace - in other words, our current society will evolve organically based on the choices, wants, and needs, of our generation - supplemented by the programming imposed upon us by the ruling elites.

    Kick that around in your head.

    I will also mentioned that I have changed the text and made subsequent modifications in the original post once more to more deeply express the points I wish to make.
     
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    You didn't answer my question before do I'm going to make it blunt.
    Say our whole system IS fucked up, what do you want to do about it?
    Please be specific.
     
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    In order for any change to occur, the populace as a whole must first become aware of the situation. As it stands, most people are blindly accepting the stories told to them by the masses.

    So the first step is to get informed.

    Many people are informed of the truth to some extent or another, they understand the government is corrupt, yet they do nothing about it. This is the second step, get active... there are a million different ways to do this, and what I am doing here is one example. I will provide you with examples of things that I do to be active in this way...

    1. spreading writing on the internet that promotes empowerment and awareness such as this, I also wrote a free book.

    2. designing websites that help to promote information awareness and other positive organizations working on proactive change,

    3. doing volunteer work at sustainable communities, in other words, learning how to build infrastructure for communities that does not have negative impacts on the planetary eco-system that can exist independent of the current manufactured society,

    4. I study natural medicine and the healing arts and provide healing services for free, including Herbal Medicine, Energy Healing, Sound healing, and Shamanic Healing, I also frequently do volunteer work at a healing center providing these services.

    5. I mentor people who request it and do lots of one on one work with individuals who need help getting their life together in different ways, as well as shamanic mentoring.

    All of these things help in different ways, and those are just some of the things I do. I do them because I enjoy them and because I am invested in a better future for man-kind. There are millions of different things you can do, but getting yourself informed is the most important! Once you are informed you can more accurately make choices and evaluations which will guide you. If you are not informed, you will become the victim of ignorance, and you will be controlled by others who take advantage of such things.
     
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    But how do you propose to overthrow the "corruption".
     
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    The corruption exists because humans allow it to. Once people start standing up for the integrity of life, it will no longer be able to stand.

    I do not propose violence or anything of that nature, I encourage people to promote information that encourages others to awaken from the illusions, I also encourage people not to participate within the corruption, I encourage people to utilize their skills to find new ways to live outside of this system.

    In Love.

    Once humans heal from these wounds we have created within ourselves we will no longer have a need for oppressive government and tyranny. It is a matter of the Spirit.
     
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    Is there a tl;dr version?
     
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    No, unfortunately not. If you don't have the attention span to invest 20 minutes in freedom there is not much I can do for you. Other than send you my blessings and Love.
     
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    roughly

    #1 youth are speical
    #2 think for yourself
    #3,4,5,6 correupted system, you need to change it
    #7 consumerism/brain wash
    #8 crap about love
    #9 more of corrupt system ~ powerfull are evil
    #10 distracted by desire for money and resources
    #12 the above (money and resources use) are bad
    #13 cogs in machine
    #14 govt owns you (literally)
    #15 programed by govt
    #16 where not connected with nature
    #17 where fucking nature up
    #18 is that what you want ~ don't you want something better
    #19/20 you can change
    #21/22 inner though/perception stuff
    #23/24/25 notice/wake up to the baness
    #26 love shit
    #27 environment shit
    #28 mass media controls shit
    #29 corporations bad
    #30 currently only know lies @ illusions ~ revolution time
    conc = change in world depends on you

    ....


    i got a question.

    why do people feel the need to write like it's an arts degree assingment?

    Maybe it activates a part of the brain that makes them feel analytical or believe in their theory more. All i know is people use this stratergy a lot on every forums site i view (except boxing scene ftw) thinking it makes there point valid.

    IMO it just makes it seem even more biased. Start of talking about 'think freely' then present some one sided and repetitve theory which ironically is similar to the propaganda used by governments...


    I agree with you that society is fucked, the environment is fucked and corporations are fuckers; but this love everone/your special bull shit is just as bad.

    people need to realise how insignifcant they are, no matter what a person does or does not do it realy doesn't matter.

    the earth only has so many more years [alegedly 10,000-20,000 years], what does it matter if the world is better or worse, people are happy or miserable or if we reduce humans existance by a bit?
     
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    I thank you immensely, this post made me laugh out loud, in a good way.

    We live in an infinite universe, all things are entirely insignificant yet all things contain the entirety of the cosmos.

    You are correct in many of your assumptions. I write elegantly because this is how I prefer to write. What your assumptions point out to me, is that if I had chosen to use a language and an attitude that was more in resonance with your own, you would have agreed with me, however because of judgments you have made regarding my language you have rejected the content of the post.

    I am using repetitive techniques because I am trying to drill this information into your head. I will openly admit that I am using many of the same techniques that are used on you every day by others who seek to manipulate your attention. The difference in my approach is that I am doing with with an investment in your own freedom and self-liberation rather than control, and I am providing you with tools to recognize this.

    It is in my best interest that you become a being who is independent, self-empowered, and free, because you will in turn take this self-awareness and utilize it to make the world a better place, which is all I care about...

    do what you want, your a free being.
     
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    tl;dr

    Been posted on other forums.
     
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    I agree with your post(s), Ughster. But what can we really do other than use violence? Let's say A LOT of us, let's say,the population Canada, China, and England where to live by this better life, wouldn't the corrupt government/masses just use force against us? We can't use violence, but they will, meaning we will either die or give in to whatever they demand, what then? I fully support the movement, I fully understand everything you said, I just want you to clear that up for me.
     
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    A very nice post - I have thought of many of these ideas before and you articulated them very well.

    Society does feed man-kinds souls for them, organized religion being a perfect example. They attempt to control drive and passion and conduct those emotions in predetermined paths, because passion can be a powerful tool of change. Fear keeps humans from searching for their true passions, which is what life should be exactly about.

    In today's world it is impossible to go through life without being manipulated - everything we see, hear, and experience has gone through layers and layers of systematic tampering that attempts to control perceptions. I find it fascinating that even when I enter a supermarket, the supermarket has been designed to stimulate me to buy the most possible items.

    In how you decide to perceive things, in what you take away from an experience, a necessity exists to question the perceptions that you are supposed to take away and the perceptions that you form on your own.

    It is all incredibly subjective and most feel comfortable living inside of the exact system that you despise, blind to humanity's true potential. The achievements that could be reached with a change in focus are monumental - if humanity was smart enough, loving enough, we could all be living in a Utopian society of equality and sustainability. I doubt man kinds ability to reach that point.
     
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    To use violence would be to make the same mistakes of those that came before us. I do believe in self-defense, however I do not believe in initiating violence, two wrongs will never make a right.

    It is a tough situation to approach. yet violence will never serve us, they have an advantage in that department anyway, we are not in a position to pose any sort of violent threat to them. They have nukes, tanks, automatic weapons, and chemical warfare not to mention an array of brainwashing tactics and technology that we are of yet unaware.

    The simplest way to resolve this problem is direct our energy into alternative systems that do not feed into theirs. You quietly build something new. They receive their power from our willingness to participate. Pull the plug and participate in something else that is helping to create a better future.

    Personally I believe they will soon fall anyway, their infrastructure is corrupted and in the process of collapsing as we speak, and hopefully those who have the foresight will have had the time to build an ample safety net for those that are going to inevitable fall.

    Above all else, I advocate the pursuit of your own inner freedom. If you free your mind within yourself, it does not matter what external circumstances you find yourself in, you will remain forever free.... Direct your attention within yourself, and that is where the keys to freedom rest.
     
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    YOU KNOW WHAT!

    i actualy agree with you. cept for this bit 'things contain the entirety of the cosmos.' sounds a bit cult like to me.
     
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    Not a cult, just a piece of fleeting wisdom, or insanity, depending on how you choose to interpret my poetic allusions to thoughts and mysteries unseen... Silence speaks louder than words.
     
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    Everything you said is true.

    The system is comforting, it provides shelter and food and comfort. I've been in the wild and let me tell you after a few days/weeks you will be dreaming of coming back to it.

    But the cost of this comfort is the slavery and starvation of others, many others. There are external physical benefits but those are least important. A lot of my friends at college have gone through some sort of depression or disorder. The mind/spirit of these people is sick.

    I live my life everyday questioning why I deserve everything I have in my life, and the answer always is "I don't". And it kills me inside everyday how priviliged I am, but it also makes me want to take advantage of this and work my way up so I can help the world.

    I'm a junior in college right now majoring in business.
     
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