Joopii - Making things right.

Hi,

This is not exactly a pardon, as I'm not asking to be unbanned per se. I'm here because I've scammed people in the past, and now I would like to make things right. I believe the Sythe staff could help with this.



Your profile link:

N/A, posting as a guest.



Profile links for all of your Sythe accounts:

1) Joopii
2) Ossi



Report/post/reason that got you banned:

Back in 2012, I published a video of me pulling off the classic 'doubling money' scam in Runescape. I would stand at the duel arena, pretending to be quitting RS, and I would host a trust-game where people trade me money, and I would "give it back, doubled."

As stupid as it sounds -- It worked. By showing tens of billions worth of items to the potential victims and by having a group of friends spamming next to me, I would convince people to trust me with surprisingly high amounts. In this video, I made approximately 500M in profit. However, this was not the only occasion when I pulled off the scam. In total, I would conservatively estimate that I scammed up to 3B in total (with this particular scam) throughout my Runescape 'career'.


Additional reasons:

• I ban evaded. This was a silly accident -- I didn't know that my original account was banned when I created a new one. If you look into it, you'll see that I certainly did not try to hide my identity.
• This extension was added to my ban reasons. I deny this allegation, though.
• This extension was added to my ban reasons. I participated in doxing; I admit this.

Proof of contacting victims for repayment or repayment of victims:

This is a work-in-progress. I will immediately start taking action, and I will do my best to compensate any of the victims. It would also be great if the Sythe staff would chime in and share their thoughts on how we should go about making things right. I have some pretty good ideas already, but I'm open to your suggestions.

Ultimately, I'd sort of want your approval for my decisions here.


Anything you weren't banned for but want to confess to now:

Oh yes. Where should I begin?



I'll start with by far the most serious offense; I exploited my position of trust, and I scammed somebody for 12,8 billion in a flower game.

Secondly, I have a history of DDOSing. I'm not sure if there are any relevant reports of this on Sythe.

Thirdly, I've participated in bug abusing, smuggling, and other 'tricks' in the duel arena. I'm not quite sure how this should be dealt with; Is this something worth giving refunds, or is this just a 'part of the game'?

There are things that I don't even remember. My earliest memory of scamming was from 2006 when the 8-years old little Joopii convinced somebody to drop their battleaxe and press Alt+F4. Since then, I did various bad things, from scamming to DDoSing to doxing. The latest memory of me scamming anybody was the 12,8b case. I believe this was in 2012.

Soon after that, puberty hit me, my frontal lobe developed slightly, and I grew up and cleaned my act. It's been quite a redemption arc.

Detailed description of the events that took place and why you think we should forgive you:

The details are above. As for the forgiveness part -- That's up to you to judge. Anyway, I'd like to hear your thoughts on what can be done to fix the past as effectively as possible.

Have you fully read and followed the pardon rules and requirements in this thread?

Yeah.


Previous pardon link(s) if applicable:

Joopii's pardon



My proposal for fixing things:

Let's make some conservative estimations of the damages I caused, and let's start refunding people.

The single most important thing is to refund the victim of the 12,8b scam. This single scam was bigger than anything else I've done, combined. I am almost certain that I can still trace the guy.


For the others -- Unfortunately, it's been such a long time, and most of them would be too difficult to trace. For the remaining amounts that cannot be refunded directly, I propose that I give the money to Sythe staff, and they decide what to do with it. Perhaps you can reimburse other scam victims with it, give it to charity, or give it to the community, up to you. Anyway, we could again make a conservative estimation of the damages to define the number.

As for the compensation amounts -- I suggest we look back in time and make a slightly exaggerated estimation of the RSGP value at the time. Then, we slap a 6% annual interest on top of it to cover the inflation and whatnot.

 

@Joopii

Thanks for your willingness to set things straight.

Since you were last active on Sythe, we have introduced a community repayment fund (link) to help with the process of repayment. Basically, repaid funds go to a wallet that staff then uses to repay affected users. This helps solve the issue of not being able to find your victims (e.g. if they are inactive on Sythe); as long as they contact a member of staff at some point in the future, we can guarantee them repayment from our wallet.

In a few minutes of quick searching, I found a 500m scam from 2011 and a 12.8b scam from 2012. Per your proposal, and using a $1.00/m price for 2011 and a $0.80/m price for 2012, this would be (500 * 1)*(1.06^10) + (12,800 * 0.80)*(1.06^9) = around $18,000 as of right now. If you could please send that amount in BTC to our wallet address: 1GtWMwqHby5qMisEkXTrQbefXn3ZPm6V77 (link) that would be great. After that is sent, please make a new post titled "merge" with a link to the transaction. Please do not edit your information into this thread. In the meantime, we will begin tracking down any other debts that may still exist.

 

As surprising as this may sound, $23,000 has been sent to repayment (note that this amount generously includes interest).

No further debts remain, so I'm moving your pardon to the voting phase. It will remain in voting for up to two weeks. Please remain patient in the meantime, and keep an eye on this thread for the verdict. Thanks.