Israel, a real state?

[Jesse]

Jewish people were their first.

God damn you have got to be the biggest Jew ever.

Not the Ottomans, nor the Jews were their first. It was a shit load of other empires, including the Phoenicians. No one was there first. But coincidentally, Jews have been banished from quite a few empires/countries over the centuries.

 

[Ottis]

Jewish people were their first.

SO WHAT THEY WERE FIRST ..................................

They lost there land hundreds years ago and after they get destroyed by Germany in the 20th century and conquerer palestines land.. it was 20th century not 15th 14th 13th IT WAS THE FREAKING 20TH CENTURY THEY CONQUERED ANOTHER COUNTRIES LAND its not rite

 

[xx mdv xx]

I don't know if they should be considered or not but they only reason they're going war crazy is because the Palestinians are attacking them, they're defending themselves, case closed.

I do not believe they are just a military nation just there to help the U.S. because they were born in 1948 and the U.S. didn't have problems with the middle east at the time so if you don't consider them a nation then you should at least consider them a nation before they got involved in the war.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Jewish people were their first.

If you want to go by ancient Biblical history, then the Jews actually took that land by force.

 

[Jesse]

I don't know if they should be considered or not but they only reason they're going war crazy is because the Palestinians are attacking them, they're defending themselves, case closed.

OH MY GOD!

You have got to be shitting me. You went into a land and started killing people when your ships full of Jews came and had no land. You start blowing the fuck out of their houses, and banishing all Palestinians- Jewish or Muslim - then, you start building over their rubble.


Please, if you want to say stuff like that, at least read some posts in here http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=393836&highlight=israel

 

[inkytinkyboo]

Thank you very much J3sse, finally someone who actually has shit supported by facts.


Now I know that some of the palestinian attacks are considered as terrorism, and i -as a half palestinian- am totally against those acts. But they are down by desperate people in desperate times attempting to regain their land.

I have nothing against people of thew jewish belief, in fact I even have a few jewish friends (something that isn't common in the middle east here). I am only against Zionism.

Zionism is the force that is controlling this world 50 years ahead of everyone, they control commerce, economy and politics. Nothing goes without their say.

 

[linkinparkrox320]

I'm Iranian, you guys all know what I think of this.

There's no such thing of "Israel".

 

[DropKick Murphys]

ISRAEL, US, UK = EVIL

I hope you are referring to the government, and not the people. I don't feel my government represents me, and I don't think I'm evil.

 

[xEDGEx]

Rofl you guys are all acting like Wikipedia is a bible.
or a book of TRUTH

 

[inkytinkyboo]

OH MY GOD!

You have got to be shitting me. You went into a land and started killing people when your ships full of Jews came and had no land. You start blowing the fuck out of their houses, and banishing all Palestinians- Jewish or Muslim - then, you start building over their rubble.


Please, if you want to say stuff like that, at least read some posts in here http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=393836&highlight=israel

Sorry about misquoting you earlier, I meant to quote the poster above you.

I'm Iranian, you guys all know what I think of this.

There's no such thing of "Israel".

/Agree.

I hope you are referring to the government, and not the people. I don't feel my government represents me, and I don't think I'm evil.

You are not evil, but your government brainwashes your citizens and makes every jewish person lives in israel believe that 'you were there a few thousand years ago so you've got the right to take palestine by force.'

There is also another quote which I cannot find at the moment, but I will very soon. It claims that zionists believe that they are 'the chosen people of god' and that the rest of us are equal with animals.

No, you're not evil. Your government is evil though.

Rofl you guys are all acting like Wikipedia is a bible.
or a book of TRUTH

You, little boy, are an idiot. I won't even explain why, because I've done that every 3 posts. WE ARE NOT USING WIKIPEDIA AS A TRUSTED RESOURCE YOU MORON! Are you just trying to get your post up? Seriously, do you just read the first few lines and say "WOO! I WANNA MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IM POSTING SOMETHING! THEY WONT NOTICE IT'S SPAM!". Jeez.

 

[xEDGEx]

SO WHAT THEY WERE FIRST ..................................

They lost there land hundreds years ago and after they get destroyed by Germany in the 20th century and conquerer palestines land.. it was 20th century not 15th 14th 13th IT WAS THE FREAKING 20TH CENTURY THEY CONQUERED ANOTHER COUNTRIES LAND its not rite

So if it was earlier it is okay?
that statement didnt make any sense.

You, little boy, are an idiot. I won't even explain why, because I've done that every 3 posts. WE ARE NOT USING WIKIPEDIA AS A TRUSTED RESOURCE YOU MORON! Are you just trying to get your post up? Seriously, do you just read the first few lines and say "WOO! I WANNA MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IM POSTING SOMETHING! THEY WONT NOTICE IT'S SPAM!". Jeez.

little boy, im probably 4-5 years older than you, i was pointing out the fact that people take wikipedia as if it was a fact, i was not nor did i ever, say YOU were beliving wikipedia, calm your self kid, and actually no im not just spamming, i actually enjoy reading other peoples post is that a problem?

because it seems like your the one with ugh.. 20 post?

wierd

now shut your mouth you illiterate 14 year old

I never disagreed with this topic, but back to the topic, here is a site full of evidence on zionism

http://nowarforisrael.com/


and here is a quote straight from a book on zionism...

"Certain individuals and groups have used the term "Zionism" as a pejorative to justify attacks on Jews. According to historians Walter Laqueur, Howard Sachar and Jack Fischel among others, the label "Zionist" is in some cases also used as a euphemism for Jews in general by apologists for antisemitism."

All this whole zionism and fake israel is just some more antisemitism bullshit and a way to point a finger at the jews.

and if you dont belive this, read the definition of zionism.

A descriptive term - The term "Zionism" was apparently coined in 1891 by the Austrian publicist Nathan Birnbaum, to describe the new ideology. It is also used to describe anyone who believes Jews should return to their ancient homeland.

its completly race related once again.

 

[Jesse]

Canaan = Palestine/Israel which was once shared in peace and harmony and both religious groups lived together.

NOW, the Zionist bastards are pushing any trace of Palestinians out whether they are Jewish or Muslim.

 

[Sea Swapper]

If you want to go by ancient Biblical history, then the Jews actually took that land by force.

Shredder, Look back at history and maybe youll notice that almost all countrys were taken by force and more brutally then Israel. Whys everyone suddenly notice it when its israel? And seriously, look at the old catholics before you talk.

NOW, the Zionist bastards are pushing any trace of Palestinians out whether they are Jewish or Muslim.

And wtf? do you know how many accomodations israel has made for Palestine? They gave them the gaza strip and what do they do? Instead of trying to help other palestinians or make peace they turn the gaza strip into a missile pad. So stfu and read before you talk.

 

[Sea Swapper]

Lmfao you all have been warped by biest media.

 

[inkytinkyboo]

They gave them the gaza strip and what do they do? Instead of trying to help other palestinians or make peace they turn the gaza strip into a missile pad. So stfu and read before you talk.

Moron, they 'gave' them gaza?

Have you ever been to gaza you shitfuck? MY COUSINS LIVE THERE! I go to the west bank twice a year. They treat us like pigs you idiot, you know NOTHING of what is really going on down there. YOU are the one being warped by media. Zionism controls what should be viewed on your T.V.

Accomodations? are you fucking shitting me? They banned water, electricity, petrol and MEDICINE for NEARLY A MONTH from the gaza strip!

Imagine living without healthy water, or electricty or medication (if you were ill) for one day, let alone a month.

YOU stfu before you talk.

Honestly man, I don't mean to insult you, but you should know better.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Shredder, Look back at history and maybe youll notice that almost all countrys were taken by force and more brutally then Israel. Whys everyone suddenly notice it when its israel? And seriously, look at the old catholics before you talk.

"Other countries did it, therefore, it's ok."

I argue for the freedom of any oppressed nation. There just happens to be a thread about Israel here.

Old...Catholics? What does this have to do with the topic?

 

[xEDGEx]

Moron, they 'gave' them gaza?

Have you ever been to gaza you shitfuck? MY COUSINS LIVE THERE! I go to the west bank twice a year. They treat us like pigs you idiot, you know NOTHING of what is really going on down there. YOU are the one being warped by media. Zionism controls what should be viewed on your T.V.

Accomodations? are you fucking shitting me? They banned water, electricity, petrol and MEDICINE for NEARLY A MONTH from the gaza strip!

Imagine living without healthy water, or electricty or medication (if you were ill) for one day, let alone a month.

YOU stfu before you talk.

Honestly man, I don't mean to insult you, but you should know better.

calm your self kid, its a debate not an arguement

 

[linkinparkrox320]

Here's the solution to everything.

How about we all just go do our research from a TRUSTED source, like a book perhaps? And not rely ourselves on FOX (the most bias name in media), or any typical website.

And once you've actually done your research, you know what you find out?

Israel is a lie.
There's no such thing as "Israel" like I've mentioned before.

It's called Palestine.

 

[Jesse]

And wtf? do you know how many accomodations israel has made for Palestine? They gave them the gaza strip and what do they do? Instead of trying to help other palestinians or make peace they turn the gaza strip into a missile pad. So stfu and read before you talk.

Alright. Let me cut off the whole bottom half of your body, then staple your foot to your hip.

 

[g0tg0t]

wikipedia is not right one of my friends goes on wikipedia everyday and changes facts so its all wrong and thats why i do not believe in using wikipedia

yeaaa anyone can edit that....

Anyway im against it