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Can someone that has the ultra staking bot tell me if it is worth it or not? Thank you very much!
Is Ultra Staking Worth It?
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i've bought ultra skatcking 1 week ago
the bot itself is great, it does all well
but there is no win that you will make huge profits
i won a few mil, but lost in then, it's very all based on luck with this bot.
you can win alot, and you can lose a lot
the bot itself is great, it does all well
but there is no win that you will make huge profits
i won a few mil, but lost in then, it's very all based on luck with this bot.
you can win alot, and you can lose a lot
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It's a huge waste. All it does it stake so if you run it once and make it stake 1b every round and it wins its first round, somehow the guy who makes it thinks that counts as 1b per hour....
Staking is a zero sum game. The longer you run it, the lower your profit/per hour (if any). The guy who made this script KNOWs it's not actually a profit producing script, he is just selling something that morons will buy. If you try to ask him about his math and where he comes up with the 141m/hour thing, he will just say thats what someone got (because they ran the script for like 5 minutes and won a couple stakes). I promise you, if you buy this script, you will not make any money with it in the log run. This is a mathematical FACT. It's just like flipping a coin; you might win the first few rounds, but eventually, it will even out.
Staking is a zero sum game. The longer you run it, the lower your profit/per hour (if any). The guy who made this script KNOWs it's not actually a profit producing script, he is just selling something that morons will buy. If you try to ask him about his math and where he comes up with the 141m/hour thing, he will just say thats what someone got (because they ran the script for like 5 minutes and won a couple stakes). I promise you, if you buy this script, you will not make any money with it in the log run. This is a mathematical FACT. It's just like flipping a coin; you might win the first few rounds, but eventually, it will even out.
You will have the same chance of profiting in doing one stake. Running the bot is totally useless
I've never used it but I'm assuming it works on a bet double each loss?
You cannot realistically work out an average GP/HR as you could ratio;
*e.g. 12:0, 6:6 or 0:12 an hour.
Assuming you start off with a 1M bet, that would be 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128.. loosing massive amounts even over 8 losses, which is most definitely likely.
But then winning even 12 fights an hour with no losses would be 12M/Hr at the best assuming you get 12 fights an hour.
A more reliable bot could/should be developed, using a method a lot of roulette players use and that's waiting for 4-5 of red/black in a row, then betting $X to begin the steps.
If for instance you had maxed accounts fighting each other and got a record of the win/losses over say.. 10,000 fights and saw what the greatest consistent loss ratio was, for example.. 15 losses in a row.
Then creating a bot that uses two accounts to fight each other until getting 10 losses in a row, would give you 5 steps. Meaning on my arithmetic you could essentially start at 8M and increase limiting you to that 15 loss ratio.
Overall.. It doesn't matter how many steps you add to loose X amount of times in a row you could still loose the next fight 50/50. It's just unlikely that you would loose 15x in a row.
You cannot realistically work out an average GP/HR as you could ratio;
*e.g. 12:0, 6:6 or 0:12 an hour.
Assuming you start off with a 1M bet, that would be 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128.. loosing massive amounts even over 8 losses, which is most definitely likely.
But then winning even 12 fights an hour with no losses would be 12M/Hr at the best assuming you get 12 fights an hour.
A more reliable bot could/should be developed, using a method a lot of roulette players use and that's waiting for 4-5 of red/black in a row, then betting $X to begin the steps.
If for instance you had maxed accounts fighting each other and got a record of the win/losses over say.. 10,000 fights and saw what the greatest consistent loss ratio was, for example.. 15 losses in a row.
Then creating a bot that uses two accounts to fight each other until getting 10 losses in a row, would give you 5 steps. Meaning on my arithmetic you could essentially start at 8M and increase limiting you to that 15 loss ratio.
Overall.. It doesn't matter how many steps you add to loose X amount of times in a row you could still loose the next fight 50/50. It's just unlikely that you would loose 15x in a row.
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A lot of people have come back to their bot to find out they have been cleaned for hundreds of millions using this script. It uses the Martingale strategy when staking and can cost you a lot when you run into a losing streak. Let’s say you tell it to do 100k stakes, when it loses it has to double up to make your 100k back. What a lot of people don't realize is the bot will double up until your cleaned and even a 10 loss streak could cost you over 100m all for a base of 100k. Logically a 10 loss streak should never happen with 50/50 odds but it is very common to see a staker go on such a streak. Imo you should never trust a bot with your cash stack and if you want to get cleaned go ahead and use the Martingale strategy.
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I made 100m with it so it's worth it for me but it's still having luck.
You might as well buy a machine that flips a coin for you. Averaged over thousands of stakes, the guaranteed total profit/hr for staking is somewhere between 0 gp/hr and -100k gp/hr. If you're lucky you'll never stake a glitcher so you'll average out at 0; but there's no guarantees that you'll avoid glitchers and eventually you'll begin to lose money.
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Ive used a staking bot and profitted HUGE on 2 maxed mains. I used a 6-7 MAX losing streak and averaged getting cleaned 1 time a day on 1 acc(7 losing streak). I did 10wins an hour on x2(around 20 games, 10 wins) so with 1mil pot i made 10mil an hr, 200m a day-64/128m from 1 losng streak
But its still mainly luck and average maths. If you get cleaned 3 times instead of 2 on 2 accs for 1 day, ur still on profit, but if u get cleaned 5 times, ur on huge loss which u gotta recover. Unless uve got a few bils to invest and more than 1 maxed staker to use, do frosties. Its pure profit, i made 400-500mil+ on just 1 acc on frosties so far(last year on andy's FDK)
But its still mainly luck and average maths. If you get cleaned 3 times instead of 2 on 2 accs for 1 day, ur still on profit, but if u get cleaned 5 times, ur on huge loss which u gotta recover. Unless uve got a few bils to invest and more than 1 maxed staker to use, do frosties. Its pure profit, i made 400-500mil+ on just 1 acc on frosties so far(last year on andy's FDK)
I think there is a way of doubling so if you lose you double and win back your money and then keep going to benefit. I would say just have it start low like around 1m per stake then to like start it at like 10m per stake and so on...
That betting system has the same chance of profit of doing a single stake.
Its all stats
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This is actually quite clever. However, there is also the possibility that you are on a maxed account and someone with slightly lower stats would agree to fight you, making your chance of winning slightly greater than 50%. Really it depends on how frequent "glitchers" are.
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I recently did a test with ultra staker and if you want some screenies ill try and get them asap..
I ran several tests with this btw to get my max money/hr
I started off with an account with 99att/str/def/hp and a 50M cash pile
the result after 20 hours was a 133m cash pile
the base stake was 500k
My next was my maxed main with 50m
the result after 20hrs was 54M ish
the base stake was 500k
Then i did 5 accounts with a mix of stats between 'boxer pures' to maxed mains
the result was an overall +190m ish over 20hrs
I'd definately recommend it only if you're willing to use it over multiple accounts at once
I ran several tests with this btw to get my max money/hr
I started off with an account with 99att/str/def/hp and a 50M cash pile
the result after 20 hours was a 133m cash pile
the base stake was 500k
My next was my maxed main with 50m
the result after 20hrs was 54M ish
the base stake was 500k
Then i did 5 accounts with a mix of stats between 'boxer pures' to maxed mains
the result was an overall +190m ish over 20hrs
I'd definately recommend it only if you're willing to use it over multiple accounts at once
All it does is double the bet when you lose, which is an awful betting system called martingale. 7 losses in and your betting over 60mil to win 1 mil..see why this doesn't make sense?
technically if it gets the first hit every time and never changed the stake it will have a slight edge, maybe 1-2% in box stakes..that would be guaranteed to be profitable over the long run..the current script..guaranteed to fail eventually lol
technically if it gets the first hit every time and never changed the stake it will have a slight edge, maybe 1-2% in box stakes..that would be guaranteed to be profitable over the long run..the current script..guaranteed to fail eventually lol
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Martingale is stupid and doesn't help you at all.
You should just do flat stakes (like 500k every stake).
But the thing that actually matters in the long run is your winrate. If you do 100 stakes, and you reliably win 53 and lose 47, that's exactly the advantage you are looking for.
There are two possible advantages in box staking: PID and switching.
Lets say each of those give you a +3% advantage.
If both players switch, it evens out.
Most players switch, and the bot gets advantage in cases when people don't switch which is fine.
If you manually get a good PID for your bot, you will have advantage over people who don't PID, which is most people in low stake boxing.
This is the only way you can make the bot really profit for you.
However, this can also be used against you.
Someone who realises that you are a bot can just get better PID than you, and then repeatedly stake you.
Since you both switch, and he has PID over you, his winrate is 53% vs your 47% (theoretically, not an actual number).
Since you are a bot, you'll never stop staking him and he will slowly but surely clean your bank.
In fact, he could even use a bot to keep staking your bot if he knows he has 53% winrate over you.
tl;dr you only win if you make sure you get a good winrate, which is easier in lowstakes when more noobs stake you, I wouldn't recommend this bot if you don't know a lot about staking statistics though
You should just do flat stakes (like 500k every stake).
But the thing that actually matters in the long run is your winrate. If you do 100 stakes, and you reliably win 53 and lose 47, that's exactly the advantage you are looking for.
There are two possible advantages in box staking: PID and switching.
Lets say each of those give you a +3% advantage.
If both players switch, it evens out.
Most players switch, and the bot gets advantage in cases when people don't switch which is fine.
If you manually get a good PID for your bot, you will have advantage over people who don't PID, which is most people in low stake boxing.
This is the only way you can make the bot really profit for you.
However, this can also be used against you.
Someone who realises that you are a bot can just get better PID than you, and then repeatedly stake you.
Since you both switch, and he has PID over you, his winrate is 53% vs your 47% (theoretically, not an actual number).
Since you are a bot, you'll never stop staking him and he will slowly but surely clean your bank.
In fact, he could even use a bot to keep staking your bot if he knows he has 53% winrate over you.
tl;dr you only win if you make sure you get a good winrate, which is easier in lowstakes when more noobs stake you, I wouldn't recommend this bot if you don't know a lot about staking statistics though
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in my opinion i'd just stake yourself, if you let it stake for you all night youll end up cleaned lol or maybe very little profits, buy a GOOD script for botting a skill, and make some GOOD profit 
no risks/no loss.
no risks/no loss.
Just stake the money yourself. Its not worth it since there's no guaranteed profit.
Might as well have fun staking at the same time too.
Might as well have fun staking at the same time too.
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I already have idung
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