Instant Gratification

['Merica]

I was arguing with my father about the legalization of cannabis. From a freedoms standpoint, he agrees that it ought to be legalized.

However, he questions why as a society we need drugs at all. Why do we need instant gratification?

I question why instant gratification is wrong?

What do you think?

 

[Trinity19]

Well instant gratification and why we need drugs are completely different things.

We don't "need" drugs, however that's the main reason why we have such a hard time getting things such as marrijuana legalized is because people fall under this idea that they do need it and since they can get it easily they don't really fight this thought process.
Drugs should be used as a relaxant or a stimulant sparingly, or in weeds case you should be able to use it every day without much problem. However people prioritize the feeling they get over their actual lives which is where the problem lies.

As for instant gratification, eh...it's human to want it. Why do you take the shortest route home? Why do you buy that energy drink at the drugstore when it's cheaper at wal-mart? Why are people stupid with their money and don't invest it? Because we lack patience and will take the best possible benefit at that point in time.
Instant gratification isn't really a bad thing, it's great if it could be used at its maximum (meaning you get the greatest possible gain in the shortest amount of time) but this is impossible since time usually yields greater rewards.

So to wrap this up, instant gratification is a great idea with horrible field results.

 

[JohnK]

I think this is becoming one of the growing problems of the world today... the whole "live for now" attitude... we're scheduled for a difficult future if this is going to continue.

 

[Revolight]

Different people get pleasure in many different ways, so instant gratification doesn't have to be drugs.

However, we want instant gratification because today's society is focused on speed and pleasure. We are trying to build things that are faster and more pleasing to the senses, such as technology and transportation. We get used to the fact that pleasure is easy and quick to obtain.

 

[malakadang]

Instant gratification coincides with hedonism.

Personally, there's nothing at all wrong with instant gratification for trivial issues. However, when issues concern themselves with a large cost-benefit analysis spectrum, that's when instant gratification falters. Do you eat what you want and become fat, or do you eat in moderation to remain slim.

I myself am certainly not a hedonist, however, when pushed to it's limits, instantaneous gratification is merely an illusion to imminent self-destruction. Also, drugs and instant gratification are two entirely different things.

 

[Lord LaLa]

Instant gratification coincides with hedonism.

Personally, there's nothing at all wrong with instant gratification for trivial issues. However, when issues concern themselves with a large cost-benefit analysis spectrum, that's when instant gratification falters. Do you eat what you want and become fat, or do you eat in moderation to remain slim.

I myself am certainly not a hedonist, however, when pushed to it's limits, instantaneous gratification is merely an illusion to imminent self-destruction. Also, drugs and instant gratification are two entirely different things.

Basically my views. To add to this, drugs are not really instant gratification as even the simplest of drugs can become addictive there for you become reliant on it rather than using them recreation-ally to relax and chill. A lot of dealers are now mixing their drugs to get their customers to keep coming back for more there for the dealers get more money. I do agree with legalizing some drugs though as that way the government can then moderate the whole process and generate an income from it which can help fund the rehab of people who want to get off the harsher drugs such as heroin, meth e.t.c.

 

[phunny guy]

its not wrong. nothing is "wrong". it may just not meet the standards for someones existing schema of a moral code or some bullshit. Do whatever you want and be happy. we are ALL going to die. who knows when, who cares, do what you want.

 

[killahbees]

its not wrong. nothing is "wrong". it may just not meet the standards for someones existing schema of a moral code or some bullshit. Do whatever you want and be happy. we are ALL going to die. who knows when, who cares, do what you want.

What if something that makes YOU happy hurts, or is harmful, to another person? Just playing devils advocate.

 

['Merica]

I think this is becoming one of the growing problems of the world today... the whole "live for now" attitude... we're scheduled for a difficult future if this is going to continue.

Why is it a problem? Why is living for now an issue? Unless you can guarantee me a later, why ought I live for it? I could die tomorrow for all I know.

 

['Merica]

Basically my views. To add to this, drugs are not really instant gratification as even the simplest of drugs can become addictive there for you become reliant on it rather than using them recreation-ally to relax and chill. A lot of dealers are now mixing their drugs to get their customers to keep coming back for more there for the dealers get more money. I do agree with legalizing some drugs though as that way the government can then moderate the whole process and generate an income from it which can help fund the rehab of people who want to get off the harsher drugs such as heroin, meth e.t.c.

Drugs are an immediate venue to instant gratification. They give an instant sense of pleasure. That's why people use them. You feel free, lifted, high, good or whatever have you immediately. Whereas waiting for those emotions to come to you would be the opposite of seeking instant gratification.

On a related note: I'm not implying that drugs are the only source of instant gratification. There is a litany of other sources. This just happens to be one I frequently debate.

This is why marijuana is such an interesting topic. Assuming it were legal, you can satisfy your urge for instant gratification almost harmlessly especially if consumed in edible form. In combination with the fact that there are no physically addictive properties it provides a safe substance for the gratification. Let's assume I did indeed "abuse" cannabis, based on whatever definition you choose, how could that ever be self destructive assuming I have sufficient funds?

 

[kill dank]

Well, does your father take Tylenol or any other pills or medication? It's the same concept. It makes you feel better. Human nature and animal nature says we enjoy things that make us feel good. We want it instantly the same way we wish we could get paid every day after we work or didn't have to wait all year for a tax return. It's the same concept.

 

['Merica]

Well, does your father take Tylenol or any other pills or medication? It's the same concept. It makes you feel better. Human nature and animal nature says we enjoy things that make us feel good. We want it instantly the same way we wish we could get paid every day after we work or didn't have to wait all year for a tax return. It's the same concept.

Yes he does. I believe those are two different things though. The Tylenol is being using as a pain reliever. I am talking strictly of recreational cannabis use, not serving any one certain purpose.

I understand the concept of instant gratification. I am asking if it is wrong or right, primarily. Secondly, whether or not, dependent on your answer to the previous question, it is a worthy dispute against drug use in general.

 

[tesla man 3]

instant gratification is not wrong. live your life how you want.

 

['Merica]

instant gratification is not wrong. live your life how you want.

Support your argument. Why ought I do that?

 

[kill dank]

Yes he does. I believe those are two different things though. The Tylenol is being using as a pain reliever. I am talking strictly of recreational cannabis use, not serving any one certain purpose.

I understand the concept of instant gratification. I am asking if it is wrong or right, primarily. Secondly, whether or not, dependent on your answer to the previous question, it is a worthy dispute against drug use in general.

Well whether it be pot, meth, or tylenol, it is still a drug. You take it to make you feel differently, whether the different be better, worse, or high.

It can be good or bad. Usually it's either instant gratification to get something not as good or you wait longer to get something of better quality. In that sense, patience pays off.

I don't think instant gratification is a valid argument for or against drug use. It can be applied to many different scenarios and in different ways that make it good and bad. Besides, not all drugs take affect instantly. As far as pot goes, what other alternative is there that will make you feel the same way? Instant or not, it's the only way.

Does that make much sense? I'm trying really hard to explain my view but it doesn't seem to be working.

 

[tesla man 3]

Support your argument. Why ought I do that?

in death, instant gratification does not exist. nothing will exist as you know it. anything from pleasure to instant gratification to morals to any definition of any word on earth will not exist after death. It will be meaningless. Their only relevance will be throughout this life. So you need to choose whether you want to be happy or semi-happy or not happy at all before happiness is no longer an option.

 

[r4mmstein]

in death, instant gratification does not exist. nothing will exist as you know it. anything from pleasure to instant gratification to morals to any definition of any word on earth will not exist after death. It will be meaningless. Their only relevance will be throughout this life. So you need to choose whether you want to be happy or semi-happy or not happy at all before happiness is no longer an option.

Is it ok for me to kill you to gain instant gratification?

Clearly IG has it's problems as it leads to unadultered hedonism and nihlism.

 

[lemon phat]

It's a plant not a drug.
Why do we need vegetables?

Just my stand-point

 

['Merica]

It's a plant not a drug.
Why do we need vegetables?

Just my stand-point

You're picking and choosing to fit your agenda. It is a drug. It alters the mind from a normal state of sobriety. However, it certainly does not deserve the negative connotation that the word "drug" carries with it.

We need them for nutrients. I don't see how that's related in the least.