Injure Open OSRS plugin dispute

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  1. Unread #21 - Apr 16, 2020 at 12:31 PM
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    (Screenshot) screenshot of 1 week is lifetime
    (Screenshot) screenshot of breaking again and again
    As you are right that some plugins etc. need some updates here and there, you can not expect me to be the original coder. I have never claimed to be the original coder, i am just reselling a product that i bought. If i resell a car that i bought where everything is fine with, but the company that makes the cars says there is an item within the car that is defect and has to be removed from all cars which results in the car not being able to function anymore, is that my fault then? The owners (dev of OpenOSRS in this case) decided to remove that item from the OpenOSRS client (all cars from the example). I have no influence on that, so instead of coming at me, someone who did not claim that did product would last forever, ask the developers of OpenOSRS what is going on. They have the power in this situation, not me, which means i am not responsible for the loss of blazenRS.

    To note something else:
    Here is a screenshot of me talking to OP. He claims here "1 week is lifetime". How is it fair to obligate me to refund then? Blazen already admitted OP and Kyle (developers of their own client with same plugin) were helping him with what to say in this thread. OP (one of the cowriters of what Blazenrs is saying) admits here that lifetime is 1 week? So how are they coming at me and saying lifetime is on an ordinal scale of; 1 month, 3 months, 1 year, lifetime? Also he said he will break it again and again and again. It's clear to say that there is a personal benefit for OP to get me banned on Sythe. Nothing more has to be said, because it is very fishy that the only scam report i got on this subject is from a guy who got help from OP, a guy who sells his own client with this plugin. This scam report is not about the 100m and not about me being a scammer, it's about portraiting me as a scammer in order to get me banned, which will lead to benefit for OP. Also notice in the 2 images that OP has deleted a message that i luckily screenshotted when happened, he says that he will keep breaking and breaking the plugin which proves he is abusing his role as an Openosrs developer. This is out of my reach and he is doing it for personal gain. I had already paid a coder to fix it, this is when he found out and sent the message.

    To go a bit deeper into the person "OP". He has his own custom client where he sells the same plugin (with other plugins, but most pkers use it solely for the hp monitor plugin that i sold too). The plugins are in a practical matter the same, they work the same and have the same use for every pker. Mine was lifetime and a lot cheaper, his is monthly and more expensive. So it is safe to say i was stealing customers from OP. He also is a developer at OpenOSRS, so it could be that he used his powers within the developers team of OpenOSRS to get this plugin removed, so he could get his sales of HIS client back up to what they were.
     
  3. Unread #22 - Apr 16, 2020 at 12:56 PM
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    So what you’re saying is, it’s ok to plagiarise someone’s work and profiteer off of something that isn’t yours? Then when it stops working (because the system was removed) you’re not liable to refund? Lifetime means lifetime, not 1 update and it stops working, what sort of stupid mentality is that?. Multiple plugins get broken on an update and they have to be fixed, I’m sure other people in the plugin section have encountered this previously, had you of been the original coder, this could have been rectified, instead you leeched a plugin and tried to make a quick buck.

    The legacy external system was removed as it was just that, legacy. It was old, buggy and un-needed due to the new external system.

    your original post made no mention of you reselling a plugin that someone bought off the dev, then sold to you, no mention lifetime was for the lifetime of the plugin and no mention you had 0 means of updating it.

    the legacy external system removal was on the cards since the new external system was made.
     
  5. Unread #23 - Apr 16, 2020 at 1:18 PM
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    Okay, to be clear, we're done arguing about whether "lifetime" means "1 week" or not. It seems that you sold @blazenrs something you didn't really own, and therefore shouldn't have been selling in the first place. Here is an OO dev stating that you didn't create the plugin, and they've been purposefully changing the way their system works to break plugins you (and potentially others) are selling.

    The above post sums things up pretty nicely:
    The final ruling here is that you need to fix this plugin for @blazenrs. If you cannot do that you need to compensate him monetarily for the inconvenience. The two of you can come to an agreement on what that means, but I think a full refund seems reasonable given that you misrepresented what you were selling and are now reneging on your guarantee.

    I've also given @Injure a TWC for all of this. You can appeal that here in the future.
     
  7. Unread #24 - Apr 16, 2020 at 2:20 PM
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    Injure was just selling the .jar which he has stated before previous. Which leads me to believe he doesn't have the means to get the plugin fixed. He also stated to me on discord when he sold me a fix for it the first time it broke that he paid 150$ himself so I should at least pay him 20m. So I would prefer that he just refunds the 100m.

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  9. Unread #25 - Apr 16, 2020 at 4:00 PM
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    attempting to get a fix, if cant i will refund him
     
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  11. Unread #26 - Apr 17, 2020 at 9:37 AM
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    openosrs devs has said that they will continue to not allow external plugins. So even if he finds a fix it for a second time I will be in the same situation in a few days I want a refund.
     
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    @Injure
    Maybe just refund the guy so we can move on. Clearly you shouldn't have been selling this plugin...
     
  17. Unread #29 - Apr 18, 2020 at 9:26 AM
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    Hmm asked injure for my refund. He said he wasn't on his pc even though there was no phone icon on discord. I asked him to log in on mobile and he said he forgot his password. Its clear he knows he is in the wrong and just avoiding at at this point.

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  19. Unread #30 - Apr 18, 2020 at 9:28 AM
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    i use shortkeys to login and cant access my pc atm, i can pay with btc or paypal or you can wait a few hours until i can, sorry
     
  21. Unread #31 - Apr 18, 2020 at 5:51 PM
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    refunded blaze, sorry for the problems
     
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    ty he refunded
     
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    Thanks for sorting this out.
     
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