Indoctrination

[Easter Bunny2]

No, believing in things that don't make sense is insanity.



It's a farce; see the third definition. There is no such thing as scripture because no writing is sacred.



No... you have to be blind to be a Christian. The Bible, as I've mentioned before, is a farce. It talks about unicorns and giants and a loving God who sends his precious children to hell because they mess up in life which is, in the eternities, an infinitely small amount of time.



Because they're blind.
It's also ended lives. Look up stuff like the Crusades.



Ignorance is bliss, but that doesn't make ignorance the right thing to do. People should choose the right for the sake of morality, not because a magic man in the sky promises them candy if they do.



Okay, I'll break this down a little, I apologize if it gets confusing. Sight is not only the registration of light in the eyes, but the interpretation thereof in the brain. If someone is able to register light with their eyes (conflicting evidence, in this case) but that person is unable or unwilling to interpret it with their mind (refusal to accept it despite logic), they are blind.



Faith is silly. If I believe in something without supporting proof, it doesn't prove that I'm worthy of a reward, it proves that I'm a moron.

I'm going to number because i suck at inserting quotes and stuff. Numbers are labeled respective to the text above:

1. And why is it insanity? Because science dictates it is. That is why it doesn't make sense. I stand with my original point.

2. This argument wont go anywhere, you believe there are no sacred writings because you believe that a God could not exist. No matter what, this argument will not end and its pointless for me to try to convince you the Bible is sacred.

3. So all Christians are ignorant? The perhaps billion christians are ignorant to facts and you know all the truth? What makes you SO positive that what you know is the truth? Because every Atheist that speaks think they are more intelligent than those religious. Just because you are supported by "reason" does not make an entirety of religious people ignorant.

4. Everything has ended lives. Science, love, men, women, etc. To hold that against it is unfair as everything has done so.

5. What makes you so sure they are not basing their choices off of morals? Now, i am no authority either but to assume that Christians base their decisions solely on the idea of heaven would mean they are brainless shells who seek only purification. This, is not true.

6. Once again, logic based on new science. The Bible was old science. I say old science because it used to be what ruled the ideas behind science and what you could our could not do. Their refusal to accept it is based on several factors: their reliance on religion to keep their lives going (not all christians have complete reliance), a group of people they socialize well with, and a general sense of meaning in their lives. Ignoring new logic is not
a "Blind" act, it is an action done based on generations of logic before all of new science.

7. Faith is silly TO YOU. Faith, in the Bible, provides you with rewards and happiness. Now, you will not believe this because this is a never ending argument, but faith is not moronic because of the fact that it was done before it turned into such a "moronic" act as you say. Faith has provided billions of people with hope and just because, in the small time its been here, new science has proven somethings to be possibly incorrect, does not make it moronic. It makes these acts traditional, acts that have been done since religion was first practiced.

 

[AmF]

In my opinion, Relgions don't need to be a part of life. Sadly, they're, if I may say, forced upon children at a young age.

The fact that you resorted back to Christianity, leads me to believe you very much care for the religion, and I believe you should stick with it if you feel its best.

 

[Easter Bunny2]

No, logic does.



Ask me for a list of problems with the Bible and I'll provide it.



No, I know that there are people who are much more intelligent than I. Atheists, on average, score higher on IQ tests, but I digress.

You're assuming that ignorance is some sort of end-all-be-all insult. It's not. I don't understand quantum physics, so I'm ignorant in that respect. Christians are ignorant in that they believe a magic dude in the sky will grant their wishes if they worship him.



And everything has changed lives for the better, invalidating your previous argument.



Prove it.



People also used to believe that the Earth was flat. In fact, the Bible supports this believe. Ideas are progressing, and to say that the old ideas are more correct, or to attempt to support your ideas with ideas from the flat-earth era, is ludicrous.



The fact that X is comforting doesn't make X true.
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I'm a devout pastafarian and it brings me joy. This must mean that my church is the true one and that I'll be saved, right?

Secondly, traditional acts are oftentimes moronic or abhorrent by today's more enlightened standards. The use of leeches in medicine springs to mind.

Alright, I'm actually tired of this argument. You and I will never agree on this and i realize this. This is not submission, i am not admitting defeat, i am simply tired of this back and forth. This argument has no end. I'll check back to post on things absurd but my response to this post is simple "Taken on Faith." Yes, yes i know "faith is illogical," and i realize this. But this does not stop people from believing in a God and most likely won't.

I thank you for providing a good and valid argument, but I won't continue this back and forth.

 

[Angelmax]

We can argue that faith is illogical whether or not the seething masses believe it is or isn't.