I need to rant

Giddy · Feb 5, 2016

Biofighter said:
Today i learn moes doesn't know how to edit posts

He doesn't edit because that would take about 30 seconds to do so. He would actually lose ~$0.92 by editing because he can make $110/hour elsewhere.

SuF · Feb 5, 2016

Sythe said:
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

I'm going to have Matt open up the bond holder process by instituting a minimum bond buy-in and holder requirements so it's not arbitrary / hand selected

What I'm thinking for minimum requirements:
greater than 2 years active, $200+ donor, account in good standing & no twc, 1000+ posts. Buy-in for a bond will be $100.

Happy to hear comments/opinions if you think this is too much or too little

can you drop the donor requirement if you have more years or posts? I'd totally do quick donations for free but likely not if i have to drop $195 first

Matthew · Feb 6, 2016

Moes said:
Oh and Richard did you notice the donation edit button removal on xen? Was it on purpose?

What are you on about? You've never been able to edit a donation once it's created (except for the status). Are you referring something to else or? Feel free to direct any questions regarding the User Center to me as I did write it.

To clarify- the "buy in" mentioned previously is the minimum amount to load onto a bond to open it. The money goes into your bond balance and you can use it; it's not a fee or anything.

The new automated bond holder management will be coming in the new User Center as part of XenForo.

FlyingToast · Feb 6, 2016

SuF said:
can you drop the donor requirement if you have more years or posts? I'd totally do quick donations for free but likely not if i have to drop $195 first

This.

Me giving $195 additional to this site after everything I've done doesn't make me any more or less trusted or able to handle donations. Why is there a required $$$ rank to do this?

Matthew · Feb 6, 2016

Moes said:
Oh and Richard did you notice the donation edit button removal on xen? Was it on purpose?

FlyingToast said:
This.

Me giving $195 additional to this site after everything I've done doesn't make me any more or less trusted or able to handle donations. Why is there a required $$$ rank to do this?

You'd have to ask Sythe but it's probably to give donation revenue a push since people will donate so they can have a bond.

Pure · Feb 6, 2016

Matthew said:
You'd have to ask Sythe but it's probably to give donation revenue a push since people will donate so they can have a bond.

If it wasn't for the 2-year requirement, I'd be doing 0% donations like video if I do truly have 0% chance to lose money from charging back (I read above that your bond is refunded if you get a chargeback?). I'm on here 24/7 regardless so why not, happy to see video is taking time out of his day to do it.

uJesternWind · Feb 6, 2016

Matthew said:
You'd have to ask Sythe but it's probably to give donation revenue a push since people will donate so they can have a bond.

but once enough people do 0% fees then people will stop going for that bond holder rank

also video you the real mvp

shouts to bleu for doing my $5 for only $5

FlyingToast · Feb 6, 2016

Matthew said:
You'd have to ask Sythe but it's probably to give donation revenue a push since people will donate so they can have a bond.

Fair enough. I just figured having more, once approved by you / Sythe would be better for the community. Lower donation fees = more donations theoretically. The ~$140 spent for the $100 rank can be talked up to $200 for the $200 rank at a 0% fee. At the moment it seems like users are DISCOURAGED from donating more because of the fees.

Laurie · Feb 7, 2016

Some people are just fucking cuntish cunts.

Matthew · Feb 7, 2016

We're also looking at hiding bonds from the user center with a $0 balance. A bunch of bond holders sit around with $0 in their bond. The new user center will likely hide bonds with less than some amount of money in them to keep people from sitting around empty.

The original intent of a bond was for people to load $100 or something and then eat away at it as people donate. Currently, however, people seem to be sitting around with $0 and then loading $5 when someone donates $5 just for that donation. Not efficient in many respects.

Any thoughts on what the minimum bond balance should be for a bond to show up in the user center donation methods list?

Moes · Feb 7, 2016

I think that should be adjustable per user.

iHateQuesting · Feb 7, 2016

Matthew said:
We're also looking at hiding bonds from the user center with a $0 balance. A bunch of bond holders sit around with $0 in their bond. The new user center will likely hide bonds with less than some amount of money in them to keep people from sitting around empty.

The original intent of a bond was for people to load $100 or something and then eat away at it as people donate. Currently, however, people seem to be sitting around with $0 and then loading $5 when someone donates $5 just for that donation. Not efficient in many respects.

Any thoughts on what the minimum bond balance should be for a bond to show up in the user center donation methods list?

I think $100 minimum balance is fair, i was going to suggest $200 but i thought it over again and $100 usually should be able to process 5 donations if not more? i don't think the average donor amount is that high and no reason to really ever process over $5-25 for someone when they can directly donate at that point, and if they can't they can then contact a bond holder again for more assistance.

Electro · Feb 7, 2016

I agree, I was pretty suprised I had to pay an extra $5 to donate $25 for SVU tbh

uJesternWind · Feb 7, 2016

iHateQuesting said:
I think $100 minimum balance is fair, i was going to suggest $200 but i thought it over again and $100 usually should be able to process 5 donations if not more? i don't think the average donor amount is that high and no reason to really ever process over $5-25 for someone when they can directly donate at that point, and if they can't they can then contact a bond holder again for more assistance.

That's only if they want to donate with pp. If they want to go with rsgp, wu, btc, etc it would still have to go through a bond holder