I do not care nearly enough to go searching for links to then have them all dismissed - likely without actually addressing them - due to "propaganda", or you simply not accepting them; furthermore, you won't even accept a definition of a nation if it goes above an high-school vocabulary understanding. I have significantly better things to do with my time then "debate" with you.
My job has involved me working with multiple West Bank area experts and we teach a class on the West Bank + Gaza Strip and their relationships with Israel. I have a decent understanding of relationships and I am aware of the shit the IDF put arabs through at the checkpoints and the lengths they go to tear down an entire family's house if a member of that family has attacked Israel.
Now, is the West Bank/Gaza Strip innocent? No, but you refuse to accept even the remote possibility that Israel could do anything wrong and are a blindly nationalistic & patriotic. You are no better than some very right-wing, American fundamentalist that believe whites are superior and "we need to kick the negros out of this country!"
No, I've been around the middle east, but I've never been to Israel.
You act like learning something from a "WB expert" when it's apparent you haven't learned shit, let alone have you ever actually even been there.
Every time you like to portray yourself as using fact and myself simply dismissing what you have to say, you can't even quote such an event happening.
The SINGLE thing you have "on me" is where your definition of a nation differs, and quite honestly, you're a fucking idiot for using such a piss poor argument when anyone can understand exactly what's being asked; has any peoples ever operated under the title "Palestinian" whether it was a tiny little tribe, or a full blown kingdom.
Your subjective definition of "nation" means little to nothing in the big picture.
But like i've said probably a dozen times now, QUOTE ME, you blithering moron.
E: Here's a very basic question for anyone that thinks they're even mildly educated on the WB and Gaza. How much money is owed to Israeli electrical companies (part of the reason electricity will actually be turned off in Gaza), and how much water does Israel give to the PA in the West Bank as a result of their wasteful use of water.
I'd be willing to actually bet any amount of money right now that you couldn't answer either of those questions or get them right, let alone provide a source for your answer.
E2: Btw I should just point something out that you're still crying about, even though in the other thread I posted a link that was reporting on the reconstruction currently of 80,000 homes. But you wouldn't remember that, because you don't ever actually read what's being said in relation to your incessant whining about "wahh Israel demolishes homes of terrorists."
E3:
Oh, and Palestinian people didn't just appear in 1948.
Here's another good example of you never supplying any sort of evidence to back up your claim after I challenged you on it. I could probably go back through the entire thread and count on a single hand the number of sources you used to back up your claims.