Hsurab's Gold Scamming 75m OSRS.

[jacob jackson]

Also Like I said from start i'm not holding/winning nothing, he took the PP and the BM I GOT NOTHING

Tmoe that was I want' to prove, His accounts would be banned too, because he are directly involved in the trade. Here he said he weren't banned, strange because he was doing it directly and even me was not involved got banned.

He confirming his accounts aren't banned:
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My accounts were not banned because i was not directly involved with the xfering of the gold. My associates account is most likely banned.

 

[tMoon]

Due to me having such a high profile on the server i maintain plausible deniability by xfering to a friend and letting him sell it, i made this clear to him before it's not really relevant.

Also Excelont was clear with his decision was he not?

Are you truly suggesting having someone else trade for you when two individuals were then banned minutes after the trade is irrelevant?

Excelont passed the RAS to me + there are upper-staff that will likely be consulted with this. That is not the final word (nor is what I say the final word). Your eagerness to get the GP just furthers my suspicions.

Also, regarding drop logs. While it is possible the logs may be referred to, it is very unlikely they were referred to within minutes of the trade taking place; rather, it seems staff were tipped off about the trade.

 

[tMoon]

My thoughts (so far) come down to the following:

There is not sufficient proof to show you were partnering with staff and/or are staff, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that point to such. The entire trade seems to be careless, but you yourself acknowledged the risk and TOS of the shop states' it is risky and he does not take responsibility for any banning that may occur during/after the trade. If such (very strong) circumstantial evidence is true, you are not out any GP and either way Hsurabs is out a significant amount due to both accounts being banned.

I am not of the opinion Hsurabs should have to pay out the 75M based off all the proof provided. While I do not think any money should be paid out, if other staff are of the opinion it should be, I think it should be halfed to 37.5M based on the careless nature of both parties. I do re-iterate I do not think this should be paid.


Edit:
All let's ignore everything presented. There's still the TOS of the shop and such terms are hardly outrageous due to the nature of the trade (similar to an individual being banned for botting on account while terms state such an outcome is possible).

So yeah, that's what I think, but if any proof can be presented by either party, that would be fantastic.

 

[jacob jackson]

Are you truly suggesting having someone else trade for you when two individuals were then banned minutes after the trade is irrelevant?

Excelont passed the RAS to me + there are upper-staff that will likely be consulted with this. That is not the final word (nor is what I say the final word). Your eagerness to get the GP just furthers my suspicions.

Also, regarding drop logs. While it is possible the logs may be referred to, it is very unlikely they were referred to within minutes of the trade taking place; rather, it seems staff were tipped off about the trade.

I'm eager to get the gold because i want this thread removed as it's posing a threat to the safety of my account ingame.

Look at the details of the report. He buys 6m from me at Easts, he dies to a pker at easts while trying to sell bm to someone, he then asks me to go back to easts and sell him 5m more, i give him 5m then him and his buyer get banned.

Are you really going to suggest that's down to me being involved with staff? Also let me point out i've been selling and buying with this guy for much longer than today. He doesn't want to pay the 75m so he's making bullshit accusations.

My thoughts (so far) come down to the following:

There is not sufficient proof to show you were partnering with staff and/or are staff, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that point to such. The entire trade seems to be careless, but you yourself acknowledged the risk and TOS of the shop states' it is risky and he does not take responsibility for any banning that may occur during/after the trade. If such (very strong) circumstantial evidence is true, you are not out any GP and either way Hsurabs is out a significant amount due to both accounts being banned.

I am not of the opinion Hsurabs should have to pay out the 75M based off all the proof provided. While I do not think any money should be paid out, if other staff are of the opinion it should be, I think it should be halfed to 37.5M based on the careless nature of both parties. I do re-iterate I do not think this should be paid.

I'm down 5m blood money, to buy this back would cost me 125m 07, so i think you're wrong by even suggesting i am not out any gp.

Can i not stress this enough?

He accepted full responsibility for any problems during the trade because he continued to request the location after i told him it was a risk.

Also im sorry but this part alone should be enough to wrap this report up now.

[18:45:12] Supreme overlord: its really sketchy xD
[18:45:22] Hsurab's Gold: lbro it's not
[18:45:22] Hsurab's Gold: ( (flag:gb) libro it's not )
[18:45:28] Supreme overlord: how we gonna xfer
[18:45:33] Hsurab's Gold: same way
[18:45:53] Supreme overlord: the guy who killed u is probably telling staff about you
[18:45:59] Supreme overlord: i don't want to sell 5m right now
[18:46:37] Hsurab's Gold: You will trade directly with my supplier
[18:46:57] Supreme overlord: i am the supplier
[18:46:59] Supreme overlord: >.>
[18:47:02] Hsurab's Gold: customer*
[18:47:02] Hsurab's Gold:
[18:47:16] Supreme overlord: hmm
[18:47:38] Hsurab's Gold: bro cmon
[18:47:39] Hsurab's Gold: ( (flag:gb) bro con )
[18:47:41] Hsurab's Gold: you're selling the bm
[18:47:43] Hsurab's Gold: or nah?
[18:47:43] Hsurab's Gold:
[18:47:47] Supreme overlord: yes
[18:47:58] Hsurab's Gold: same way
[18:48:09] Supreme overlord: i gotta xfer it firsty
[18:48:14] Hsurab's Gold: sure bro
[18:52:37] Supreme overlord: ok
[18:52:40] Supreme overlord: how are we doing this
[18:52:43] Hsurab's Gold: same way
[18:52:53] Hsurab's Gold: i'll explain my supplier
[18:52:55] Hsurab's Gold: the method
[18:52:59] Hsurab's Gold: remember how to do it?
[18:53:05] Supreme overlord: if theres any problems its on you though
[18:53:10] Hsurab's Gold: yeah dw
[18:53:11] Hsurab's Gold: lol
[18:53:12] Supreme overlord: idk the supplier
[18:53:51] Hsurab's Gold: go ::east

 

[tMoon]

Another individual has just notified me it is plenty possible the the likes of known private servers will setup notifications for large amount of gold drops and so forth.

If he agreed to handle any problems that arose, then it is indeed on him. Unless he can provide proof you were working with staff, you should be paid out. So yeah, pulling a 180* on my previous post, thanks for the information.

I'm closing this for now with the opinion that you should be paid the GP in question due to the promise to cover whatever would occur unless concrete evidence can be provided showing you were working with staff.

@Hsurabs Gold you can try to gather evidence showing what you suspect, but if you cannot provide evidence, you need to repay the individual or you will be banned. @jacob jackson talk to Hsurab to figure out re-payment, but do be cognizant it may take a few days.

Closed.


Edit: The two users have reached an agreement regarding payout and have requested the threads to be deleted (will be archived).