HIV Government created

[TheJCDaly]

Wonder why people are not* (edit) spamming this thread as they are spamming mine, after all this is also a "conspiracy" but noone here has spammed "bumfuck" logic. Personally, i think a upper power did create aids, maybe the government, maybe not. But i don't think it got here as the government claims.

 

[TotzKush]

Wonder why people are not* (edit) spamming this thread as they are spamming mine, after all this is also a "conspiracy" but noone here has spammed "bumfuck" logic. Personally, i think a upper power did create aids, maybe the government, maybe not. But i don't think it got here as the government claims.

Do you mean upper power like a god?

 

[TheJCDaly]

Do you mean upper power like a god?

No, that's my fault i was unclear, i meant an upper power of society, such as a government or a power higher than the average american, such as NATO or an organization of sorts.

 

[TotzKush]

No, that's my fault i was unclear, i meant an upper power of society, such as a government or a power higher than the average american, such as NATO or an organization of sorts.

Ahh that's what I assumed. But yeah I could see that.

 

[kill dank]

You can't ask for proof of something that is theoretical, I think.

Basically, asking for proof of something like this, to me, seems like disregarding common sense.

If you were in a position to help further the existence of humanity, wouldn't you?
If you knew the world would not be able to support our population for much longer at the rate it's increasing, wouldn't you do something about it if you had the means?

The thing I feel everyone is missing is that the people that would orchestrate something like this don't think on the same lines as us. We think how they want us to think, they think like we should all think.

 

[TotzKush]

You can't ask for proof of something that is theoretical, I think.

Basically, asking for proof of something like this, to me, seems like disregarding common sense.

If you were in a position to help further the existence of humanity, wouldn't you?
If you knew the world would not be able to support our population for much longer at the rate it's increasing, wouldn't you do something about it if you had the means?

The thing I feel everyone is missing is that the people that would orchestrate something like this don't think on the same lines as us. We think how they want us to think, they think like we should all think.

I like the way you think.

 

[magicfool]

So tell me, where does it belong then? Where else can people intelligently discuss if HIV was created by the Government or not?

There's your problem; this isn't an "intelligent discussion" - it's numerous people arguing about 'our government plantin flurozidez in da water and dey did hiv! also twin towerz!' (hint: there is no 'our government')

Anyway.

Take the common cold for example. This used to be called influenza. There is a certain amount of influenza in every single common cold. Why?

Germs naturally mutate. Given the right dose of antibiotics, germs mutate into super germs. Influenza in this case is a RNA virus. Other notable RNA viruses are Hep. C and SARS.

SARS created an epidemic in China in (I think, from memory) June / July 2003. The fatality rate rose to over 10%. Influenza is <1%, and usually prevalent in elderly.

In severe epidemics and new strains the fatality rate can rise to ridiculous levels. New strains of influenza can rise to 30% fatality rate.

Now why don't we see these patterns, as there are with EVERY natural disease, EVERY natural germ and EVERY natural virus, replicating in ~HIV~?

I wonder.

At the end of the day, cancer is just uncontrolled cell division. We're dying by living. Babies come from the same place you go to die. Yada yada yada.

 

[Noam]

A solid 0.00045% every year? seriously?
At the rate of 3 million every year, it will take 2163 years to reach 500 million people
At the rate of 0.00045% of the general population each year, it would take 586101 years to reach 500 million people

Here are the python scripts demonstrating it:

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    x -= 3000000
    y += 1

print (y)

Do you think the government would plan for that period of time?
In fact, after accounting for current population growth (percentages) it would take 586103 years to reach 500 million people, and accounting for numerical growth, my computer is freezing just from calculating it. I will edit this post with the final result later on.
EDIT: Current estimates show that the human population will only even begin to decline around 9333333333333 years.
EDIT 2: New estimates, after about 30 minutes of calculations, calculated every 1000000000000000000000 years (that's 21 zeros), show that the new minimum estimate is 10^50 (that's 50 zeroes)
EDIT 3: Got a final average answer. I had to calculate in leaps of 10^308. The total amount of time it would take for HIV to reduce the population to 500 million, assuming 0.00045% total population dies from HIV annually, and the human race gives birth to 42 million people every year is 314497306350000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Years. the total age of the universe is only about 14000000000.
This calculation has an amazingly high amount of error. I have no Idea how much, but I would say as much as 50-80%

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xgroper = 42000000
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x += xgroper
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xgroper = 0.012*x
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x += xgroper
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

So once again, why do you think the government would plan for 500000 years into the future - a time at which we will no longer qualify as homo-sapient any more, but something else?

Forgive me, but you have just been PWNED!

Wonder why people are not* (edit) spamming this thread as they are spamming mine, after all this is also a "conspiracy" but noone here has spammed "bumfuck" logic. Personally, i think a upper power did create aids, maybe the government, maybe not. But i don't think it got here as the government claims.

Pretty sure the above counts as bumfucking under your logic.

 

[Parox]

Nazi created.

Infracted

 

[Emperor Nero]

The governments also faked the moon landing, created McDonalds to make people fat, founded religion to keep them under control, just how they oppress the black man, Latino man, native Americans, women, children, and any non-Aryan male under 65 out there.


This thread is just blatantly retarded and doesn't apologize for it. I don't even see how this is in the something for all and not the spam section. Might as well say the feudalistic governments of the middle ages created the bubonic plague to limit population growth, or the ancient governments of the near-east genetically engineered leprosy to take out their populations. Jesus just knew the secret cure and gave it out...

Go hit some more of that kush that the government secretly taxes and injects with chemicals that track every blood cell in your body so that they know ever where you bleed or go.

 

[Sypherz]

It's a possibility. I wouldn't doubt it. I know the government is using means of population control through fluoride and the like.

The flouride! No.. they're trying to control us! Stupid, stupid government. They.. want my teeth to be strong? OH NO!!! Someone help me. someone help us! Someone.. oh, fuck it.

If you look hard enough, you can find anything.. including this silly HIV thing.

 

[SomeFormOfHuman]

Very interesting point to discuss.

This is along the lines of the Gov setting up 9/11. Wether you believe it or not is irrelevant, but still, it's scary to think about the Gov being behind some MAJOR events in history.

 

[Herman Li]

Very interesting point to discuss.

This is along the lines of the Gov setting up 9/11. Wether you believe it or not is irrelevant, but still, it's scary to think about the Gov being behind some MAJOR events in history.

Everyone immediately denies it even when there is evidence of some sort. Maybe not direct evidence, such as people NOT from the government, etc., but hey, deny it all you want. That's what people did to the other false flags, etc. that the government "HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH!" and now we know they did it. ^_^

 

[TotzKush]

Everyone immediately denies it even when there is evidence of some sort. Maybe not direct evidence, such as people NOT from the government, etc., but hey, deny it all you want. That's what people did to the other false flags, etc. that the government "HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH!" and now we know they did it. ^_^

Exactly, people are so ignorant to evidence in front of them. In the fantasy world they live in the Government that rules them is completely perfect and just. Some people should expand their horizons, do a little research, and broaden their view on things. If you're not willing to even consider evidence laid out before you, you're a lost cause in my opinion.

 

[Sypherz]

I'm always interested in a good conspiracy theory, but to be honest, this one is just awful. It makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[TotzKush]

I'm always interested in a good conspiracy theory, but to be honest, this one is just awful. It makes no sense whatsoever.

How does it not make sense?

 

[So.Cal Life]

The science and logic add's up.
HIV targets certain groups; the ignorant, the destitute, (usually of other races or nationalism than US).
Also, the science adds up; the bovine flu is a disease that closely resembles the HIV virus in structure, and method of infection. Is the government capable of creating a virus which would kill countless destitute peoples all over the world? Durrrrrr of course

 

[TotzKush]

The science and logic add's up.
HIV targets certain groups; the ignorant, the destitute, (usually of other races or nationalism than US).
Also, the science adds up; the bovine flu is a disease that closely resembles the HIV virus in structure, and method of infection. Is the government capable of creating a virus which would kill countless destitute peoples all over the world? Durrrrrr of course

My thread lives on

 

[1cy phyr3]

I'm finding it very hard to take half the people on this thread seriously when they uses awful sources and all they post is just copy and pasted crap from random websites. People need to work on being knowledgeable instead of copy and pasting their arguments. I believe it is a possibility that the government could have done that. Things like the Iran-Contra controversy lead me to believe the government will do anything it pleases. Whatever the case may be it's not like we will ever really have a solid answer so it's all beliefs but if people could actually know what they're talking about that would help. A LOT.
By the way youtube isn't a source of information.

 

[TotzKush]

I'm finding it very hard to take half the people on this thread seriously when they uses awful sources and all they post is just copy and pasted crap from random websites. People need to work on being knowledgeable instead of copy and pasting their arguments. I believe it is a possibility that the government could have done that. Things like the Iran-Contra controversy lead me to believe the government will do anything it pleases. Whatever the case may be it's not like we will ever really have a solid answer so it's all beliefs but if people could actually know what they're talking about that would help. A LOT.
By the way youtube isn't a source of information.

How is Youtube not a source of information? There's tutorials for many things. There's explanations for things and so on, before you try to make yourself sound smart and troll, you should probably consider what you're saying.