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http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/613353-bot-nuke-october-25th/page__pid__7280884#entry7280884

I sincerely apologise for this late announcement, I really do. We have been having some technical issues with our server which started with a DDoS attack. We are glad to say we are back online.


As you will all have undoubtedly heard, RuneScape has been updated in a way that they have said will break reflection bots forever. After looking at their update it has became seemingly clear that this was more than we expected from Jagex, and we praise them on their work. However, we would also like to add that this won’t have any long term effect on any current botting client. Whilst other sites can be passing this off as a ‘publicity stunt’ on Jagex’s part, it is apparent that Jagex merely underestimated the time, dedication and effort bot developers put into their software. We are happy to say thanks to our highly talented updater, the bot will be back online, ETA at the bottom.

The RuneScape update has indeed been interesting. In order to play the game it is now a requirement to have a relatively recent version of Java. Most of you will have this, if you experience any difficulties trying to load the game, Java is free and you can easily google it and download the latest version. (http://www.java.com/...erRedirect1.jsp)

We are in a way glad that RuneScape have decided to do this as they are currently offering a lot of fun activities in game along with some relatively substantial rewards such as XP or tokens. We here at RSBot do not want to ruin your game experience in any way and we to a point support Jagex. However, we don’t see you using bots to progress in game as a bad thing. During our bot updating, we hope you will explore RuneScape without a bot, join in some events and even have fun playing legitimately!

Now onto what you want to hear (or maybe not!). The software we use to update the bot needs to be recoded massively due to the update. This is because the RuneScape client has gone from object orientated code to large arrays. Whilst this in no way stops us from being able to update, we do wish to take our time updating to give you a chance to explore the game and even do things you would usually just bot. We suspect the update to take 14-28days and during this time, we will be working with Gold4Fun to try and get some nice give-a-ways and competitions solely to the powerbot community. Please note this is just an estimated time and may change at any time. We have to give our self room for error and such. From this update, RSBot will grow stronger for it was Ralph Emerson that said 'We acquire the strength we have overcome.'

It may also comfort you to know that we will be working hard during this time on our new project, RSBot 3. We believe RSBot 3 will set a new standard in the botting industry and will be the bot all others are compared to. This does not mean RSBot 3 will be released when our bot is back, but it does mean we will be able to make far more progress than we would usually make in that amount of time. As always, RSBot 3 is open-source.

For instant updates and progress on the bot, please follow our Twitter page and/or Facebook page! We wish the best of luck to all other bot clients, and we hope we will see you on the other side.

Discuss? Do you think they'll be back in a few weeks? And what do you think about RSBot 3?
 
I'm not entirely sure to be honest, I've heard a lot of different estimates. I don't have much experience with reverse engineering so I can't say much about it, however from what I do know I can take a guess that the for-profit bots would be back in a week, maybe a week and a half if they invest as much time into it as physically possible. The free bots I'd probably say 3-4 weeks simply due to having less incentive to update.

Mostly based on my experience with WoW's botting scene and common sense, don't take it as fact (:
 
I'm not entirely sure to be honest, I've heard a lot of different estimates. I don't have much experience with reverse engineering so I can't say much about it, however from what I do know I can take a guess that the for-profit bots would be back in a week, maybe a week and a half if they invest as much time into it as physically possible. The free bots I'd probably say 3-4 weeks simply due to having less incentive to update.

Mostly based on my experience with WoW's botting scene and common sense, don't take it as fact (:

It's the client that needs fixed, not any particular bot/script.

Interesting to read that, I've a feeling that's a truthful estimate.
 
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It's the client that needs fixed, not any particular bot/script.

Interesting to read that, I've a feeling that's a truthful estimate.

I don't know what to believe really, especially from lots of rumours that go around about the whole RSbotvsRSbuddy thing that went on. Hm. We'll have to wait and see I guess.
 
It's the client that needs fixed, not any particular bot/script.

Interesting to read that, I've a feeling that's a truthful estimate.

It's not so much the client as the method used to obtain the information from the client, the way that developers were grabbing the information they needed before the nuke is now completely useless.

Imagine you built your own operating system (similar to Windows or Linux) and once you had built it, you started writing programs for it. A few years later, you have hundreds of programs available but you lose the source code for your operating system and at the same time your hard drive crashes. You have to write it all over again. The way your programs are made is still fine and once you've rewritten your operating system they will all work again but the base which they run on has to be completely redesigned.

That's the problem we have here, only with the additional complication of Jagex promising to try and stay one step ahead of us. (:
 
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It's not so much the client as the method used to obtain the information from the client, the way that developers were grabbing the information they needed before the nuke is now completely useless.

Imagine you built your own operating system (similar to Windows or Linux) and once you had built it, you started writing programs for it. A few years later, you have hundreds of programs available but you lose the source code for your operating system and at the same time your hard drive crashes. You have to write it all over again. The way your programs are made is still fine and once you've rewritten your operating system they will all work again but the base which they run on has to be completely redesigned.

That's the problem we have here, only with the additional complication of Jagex promising to try and stay one step ahead of us. (:

Is Powerbot really capable of "rewriting their operating system" though, as your metaphor goes?
 
Is Powerbot really capable of "rewriting their operating system" though, as your metaphor goes?

I don't know, to be honest. I can't tell you how able their developers are.

The sensible thing for people to do would be for bot writers in all communities to just get together and work on solving the problem as one team. From what I understand, TRiLez has already begun this with BenLand100 from SRL but it's 25 to 1 in the morning and so I could be thinking of completely the wrong names there.

Time will tell and I strongly believe that either everyone will get there in the end, or BCEL will go the same way packet injection did ;)
 
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I don't know, to be honest. I can't tell you how able their developers are.

The sensible thing for people to do would be for bot writers in all communities to just get together and work on solving the problem as one team. From what I understand, TRiLez has already begun this with BenLand100 from SRL but it's 25 to 1 in the morning and so I could be thinking of completely the wrong names there.

Time will tell and I strongly believe that either everyone will get there in the end, or BCEL will go the same way packet injection did ;)

I guess only time will tell! :P

(Just realised you used the exact phrase "Time will tell" FU power of suggestion)
 
Why do people still use Powerbot after the hacking incident?

Or am I misinformed about what happened.
 
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