Graphic Discussion I'd like to bring up.

[Kigis]

Imagine yourself as a customer and you see a avatar you like although the person that is selling it, is expensive as hell. You search more and you see this guy with a different style avatar, but has the skill to make the same avatar as the expensive guy. Also taking into account he is alot cheaper. You add him blah blah and you then give him the avatar you like and tell him to make a exact copy of that same avatar with same style, everything. You get the avatar as well as taking into account you paid alot less for it which leads to my main question.

Is this copying someones style? If yes, who is to blame, the artist or the customer.

If a customer requests a exact piece of art and you as the artist have the skill to do. Would it be right to do the same style. What I believe is that it is all psychological process. We always learn and progress and eventually turn it into our style.

 

yea its not really ethical but i wouldn't put it past someone as you just gotta work for the money. i do it and most other artists do aswell.

 

[theArc]

I feel like going to the cheaper guy would just be like buying a knock-off version of what you want. It may look good but it won't be nearly as good as the expensive version. I think you can take aspects from people's style and use it just fine. It becomes annoying when you are blatantly copying the same stuff and calling it your own. You need to adapt and create your own style.

 

[PearlyWhites]

Well of course that decision would fall on the customer, the designer just does the job they're hired to do. You can't blame the drug dealer for wrecking your sobriety. But with that being said, I think it's preferable to have a set of standards if you plan on working in any artistic industry, and most people with said jobs tend to agree. That's why "ghost" workers are so looked down upon.

There's a pretty vivid line between inspiration and theft of concept, but it's hard to pin it without knowing the exact case at hand.

 

[ryanboyd]

Well of course that decision would fall on the customer, the designer just does the job they're hired to do. You can't blame the drug dealer for wrecking your sobriety. But with that being said, I think it's preferable to have a set of standards if you plan on working in any artistic industry, and most people with said jobs tend to agree. That's why "ghost" workers are so looked down upon.

There's a pretty vivid line between inspiration and theft of concept, but it's hard to pin it without knowing the exact case at hand.

Art work is different from what you are thinking of. When you create an art piece, that art is protected by law. People can not take that art and sell it as their own. For instance the most popular trend right now is fidget spinners.

The first person who invented fidget spinners is going to be the one with the original product. But there is people out there that does not want to pay for the original product price so they go for a cheaper alternative. This alternative might be a slight change in design but it is of their own design. Thus they can sell the fidget spinner.

To put rules in like this on sythe graphic community would be pointless. You cant say someone is copying your work when they created of somthing with the same style. It just blows my mind that you think just because you created this style first that you own it. Prime example.

Leonardo da Vinci art style was the High Renaissance. We can see that because its well documented. You think that no one today should try to copy his style of work. If you really look into it what your asking is dont copy me because i was first. If someone did not take your original design from you and alter it you have no grounds to say hey you cant do that. Many graphic artist on sythe have the prices because of the types of clients they get.


Also another example your signature. Did you create that because im almost 100% sure someone else created the 3d style and you just liked it and created and alternative to it. Would you consider this copying.

 

Trends happen in design the same as they do anywhere else (fashion, music, whatever) so I don't believe 'theft' of a style can really be a thing.

It's honestly hard not to take inspiration from other peoples' work, especially when a client comes to you asking "Can you make something like this?"

 

[Kigis]

Products such as fidget spinners, iphone or even a gucci watch. The original creator of these designs have patterns. This is like a legal way of preventing of people copying your work. Still you see people copying and making fake versions which you see in a black market.

This is you copying someones originality, twisting it to fit your needs then sell it to profit from their originality. I do believe that people observe and learn whatever the topic. If they see something they like, they copy, therefore creating a trend.

People learn and I dont mind that. I wouldnt call it copying someones style but learning to make yourself better. I just dont personally like people who claims style or certain aspects they do in their work. They dont humble themselfs to admit their originality has been learned and modelled by looking at other peoples work.

 

[ryanboyd]

Products such as fidget spinners, iphone or even a gucci watch. The original creator of these designs have patterns. This is like a legal way of preventing of people copying your work. Still you see people copying and making fake versions which you see in a black market.

This is you copying someones originality, twisting it to fit your needs then sell it to profit from their originality. I do believe that people observe and learn whatever the topic. If they see something they like, they copy, therefore creating a trend.

People learn and I dont mind that. I wouldnt call it copying someones style but learning to make yourself better. I just dont personally like people who claims style or certain aspects they do in their work. They dont humble themselfs to admit their originality has been learned and modelled by looking at other peoples work.

people can claim a style because its their style i dont think they should be shunned for claiming a style. Also i would re read what you wrote im not sure if your trying to give a bias opinion or takeing a side to the subject

 

[Kigis]

people can claim a style because its their style i dont think they should be shunned for claiming a style. Also i would re read what you wrote im not sure if your trying to give a bias opinion or takeing a side to the subject

You cant claim a style. Thats what Im saying.

 

[ryanboyd]

You cant claim a style. Thats what Im saying.

When i say claim i think we have two different meanings. I am saying you claim a style as in you claim what type of work you are doing. Like me i claim to be a nice person. idk that is an analogy that i came up with haha you understand what im saying

 

[Kigis]

When i say claim i think we have two different meanings. I am saying you claim a style as in you claim what type of work you are doing. Like me i claim to be a nice person. idk that is an analogy that i came up with haha you understand what im saying

Yea bro. I understand what you mean. Claim as in having possession of / Claim as in having a personal opinion.

Im talking about a graphic designer having a possession of a certain aspecs they have in their designs.

 

[ryanboyd]

Yea bro. I understand what you mean. Claim as in having possession of / Claim as in having a personal opinion.

Im talking about a graphic designer having a possession of a certain aspecs they have in their designs.

I dont think in art you can claim someones work to be honest

 

[Kigis]

I dont think in art you can claim someones work to be honest

Yea art is something different. Art is usually developed through trends amd styles so no one can claim anything. Its all in the process of human learning and adjustment.

 

Products such as fidget spinners, iphone or even a gucci watch. The original creator of these designs have patterns. This is like a legal way of preventing of people copying your work. Still you see people copying and making fake versions which you see in a black market.

This is you copying someones originality, twisting it to fit your needs then sell it to profit from their originality. I do believe that people observe and learn whatever the topic. If they see something they like, they copy, therefore creating a trend.

People learn and I dont mind that. I wouldnt call it copying someones style but learning to make yourself better. I just dont personally like people who claims style or certain aspects they do in their work. They dont humble themselfs to admit their originality has been learned and modelled by looking at other peoples work.

Patents exist to protect the way design of a product for a particular purpose. Copying those is illegal. In the case of fidget spinners, I'm pretty sure patenting a piece of plastic spinning on a bearing can't be done (it's a technique already too widely used in industry - i.e. rollerskate/skateboard wheels)

In the case of the iPhone, I would imagine very little of the actual technology is patented. You would be able to recreate the aesthetics of an iPhone with the same tech inside but the iPhone name itself is protected as it's a registered trademark.

Refer to my previous post in cases of artistic style.

Essentially, in any area of design there's a risk you'll be copied. There's also a pretty huge chance you've copied someone else without even realising. That's called being inspired by something

 

[runiquest]

pretty lame to steal other peoples work