Goldfarming Vs. GP Xfer

[R2Pleasent]

I have seen a lot of people confused over the difference between Goldfarming and Xfer. So I will give you all a brief explanation of the services.

Goldfarming is when a company (or person) uses a bot with your character to gain gold. This can be done in different ways. Sometimes they will fight Green Drags, if your character has decent stats. Other times they will simply mine Pure Essence. Regardless, the important thing to note is that goldfarming is ALWAYS done by a bot. No matter what a site / person tells you, this method is only worthwhile when done by a bot. No company could viably make money doing this by hand at current prices. Also, due to the fact that it is macroed, there is a much higher risk of banning from both Autoing and RWT. Speed tends to max out around 7M/day.

Direct Transfer is the complete opposite. It is done entirely by hand through the GE. No stats are gained on the buyer's account, and bans are basically non-existant. It does require start cash (usually 5M is the industry standard). Depending on the GE, Direct Transfer can do about 100M/day with sufficient start cash.

So, make sure you know what you are buying! Always ask if it is goldfarming or direct xfer. Any legitimate company should let you know the difference!

 

[The Pkkid V6]

Isn't gold farming just farming the gold in any way [Botted or not] that isn't xfering ? That's what it's been called on sythe for ages now.

And Direct transfer doesn't have to be through the GE, there's many other xfer methods that can be used is there not ?









Edit:

I can find 5+ services that agree with me .
Ex.

Gold farming !

Green dragons by bot $10 USD per day.
Green dragons by hand $20 USD per day.

or

Wild Pie Xfer!
You use my account to assist cooking, I trade the pies to your account, you make them & cook them and trade the cooked ones back to me transferring 15k of my gold & supplies to you per pie.

 

[R2Pleasent]

Isn't gold farming just farming the gold in any way [Botted or not] that isn't xfering ? That's what it's been called on sythe for ages now.

As I said, there is no way a company or person would ever goldfarm by hand over longer period of times. Prices for goldfarming are ~$0.50 per million. The average goldfarm makes 100-200k/hour. So that works out to being $0.05-0.10 per hour. No human on Earth would find those prices economically viable.

That being said, you may find someone on Sythe who is so desperate for vouches that he may hand-farm some GP for you. As I said though, there is no way someone actually would goldfarm to make USD.

And Direct transfer doesn't have to be through the GE, there's many other xfer methods that can be used is there not ?

There have been other methods in the past capable of doing a direct transfer. At this point in time, I have yet to find a seller who does not use GE xfer for a hand-done transfer.

 

[The Pkkid V6]

There are some good ways to gold farm that people know about, that can be over 2m per hour
There's quite a lot in the market, that can gain over 5m per hour !
Don't doubt other players because you don't know a certain method they do
h1j2q3 doesn't use the GE I think.
He even said he can xfer to any account, with any items on it as long as its a member, it costs more but it takes about 20 minutes for 3m on an account with 500k or so? Probably nothing is possible too.

 

[Lizard Pony]

Correct, Wisdomboy & Zenman claim they do everything by hand, I bought a 15m Goldfarm from Zenman once, it took him about 6 days, I don't really see it would be worth it to farm for 6 days, and I paid him around 28USD i believe, for 6 days, can't be worth it.

I especially wouldn't see a reason for anyone to NOT bot when there's plenty of good ones available.

Also, the Wild Pie method is capable of doing direct transfer without using the grand exchange, however, the supplies can be a pain to get, there's no way you can run a shop using solely this method, though you can sell GP using it every now and then

 

[R2Pleasent]

There are some good ways to gold farm that people know about, that can be over 2m per hour
There's quite a lot in the market, that can gain over 5m per hour !
Don't doubt other players because you don't know a certain method they do
h1j2q3 doesn't use the GE I think.
He even said he can xfer to any account, with any items on it as long as its a member, it costs more but it takes about 20 minutes for 3m on an account with 500k or so? Probably nothing is possible too.

Yes that's true, this comparison is slightly generalized. What h1j2q3 does, I believe, is somewhat of a cross between goldfarming and GP Xfer. But you're right, he must be doing it by hand, because a bot that xferred that fast would be worth a ton.

 

[HamJam]

Your correct about the Xfer using the G.E. because at the moment that's probably the most sufficient and viable transfer method.

However, the goldfarming that my partners company would offer is half botted/half done by hand. But this would depend on the availability of workers, if there busy or free.

Overall, Its a good explanation and should probably be stickied on the RSGP section IMO.

 

[The Pkkid V6]

Wait, so you're saying all goldfarming is botted? So the 2.2k essence you did on my account was botted? Because according to what you're saying it must be.
You said it wasn't at all
If it wasn't why would you choose the slowest way of gold farming it when the account had capabilities to do whiteberrys, snape grass, etc?

 

[Silent Fang]

Wait, so you're saying all goldfarming is botted? So the 2.2k essence you did on my account was botted? Because according to what you're saying it must be.
You said it wasn't at all
If it wasn't why would you choose the slowest way of gold farming it when the account had capabilities to do whiteberrys, snape grass, etc?

The people that did your order probably saw you didnt have enough starting gp for them to transfer so yes they probably botted. R2 is simply a middleman much like other sellers on sythe, the gold is transferred by use of the GE and yes it is by hand but its NOT usually done by the person you are actually buying from. Alot of people dont know this and they should.

 

[The Pkkid V6]

I do know that, but he told me it wasn't botted, and he did nothing but essence -.- .. Seems a little sketchy to me .

 

Regardless, the important thing to note is that goldfarming is ALWAYS done by a bot. No matter what a site / person tells you, this method is only worthwhile when done by a bot.

I myself had someone to goldfarm 10M by hand for me so that I could do xfer faster. I charged $1.5/M. So yeah, if it's like $0.5/M of course it's botted.

 

[Jellito]

I know methods that used to work or still do work, where I made over 3M per hour..
I have made over 1.5billion just by gold farming, no bot, no merching.
My game play is just at a year, but in that time I have gotten over 7 99's, quest cape, and various other things just at 99 combat.

I know I could name atleast 10 methods that go for 3M an hour that work/used to work.

You cant say all goldfarming is botted,

1 Fletching uncut/cut gems into tipped bolts has made me over 3M an hour.
2 Enchanting these bolts has made me over 3M an hour
3 Catching Kingly implings has made me over 10M an hour.
4 Collecting nightshade has made me over 3M an hour.
5 Ogre coffin keys have made me over 3M an hour.
6 Killing ice dragons have made me over 3M an hour.
7 Crystal keys ( chest ) have made me over 3m an hour.
8 Gaining ep has made me over 3M an hour.
9 Dailies make over 3M an hour.
10 Decanting potions make over 3M an hour.

r2pleasent.
Im not saying your stupid, but there is definately people who can do goldfarming at 50cents a million not by bot and it be worth it.
All of these ways involve using a level 100- account and literally take no skill.

 

[The Pkkid V6]

L, Crystal keys could never make that much, decanting worked at 2m/hr at the most, gaining ep made you money? That's a pure risk. Most of that goes work at below the rate he said . But honestly there are ways of making 2 - 10m/hour. So I really don't think ALL goldfarmings botted.

 

[Jellito]

and what about the other 7?
Crystal keys are luck, and in certain circumstances can make upto 3M an hour.
I know for a fact ive made that much once.

 

[R2Pleasent]

and what about the other 7?
Crystal keys are luck, and in certain circumstances can make upto 3M an hour.
I know for a fact ive made that much once.

Per hour speed isn't the same as max speed...

 

[The Pkkid V6]

Either way, there are 100's of fast methods to farm, why would some sellers use the slowest possible even if 10+ free faster ones were available ?

 

[Bubba Fuzz]

I have to disagree with the "100k-200k" an hour part. If you have the correct bots you can get 400k-600k an hour.

 

[The Pkkid V6]

Exactly, so I really don't see why R2 thinks it's all botted, and if he says it is then be botted on my account.
I believe some people do it fairly because they have good methods , and people who bot usually have a option for hand gold-farming at a slower rate with a higher charge.

 

[Tumor]

Even if you can make the 400k-600k per hour, that's still 0.25c per hour... Who would do that legitimately?

 

[The Pkkid V6]

There's gold farmers that charge more then that.
They can make over 2m per hour.
You do know that no service at sythe makes you minimum wage ?
It's more gamers who want to get a bit of money for playing games, while collecting vouches etc.
Gold sellers, unless they have 1b - 2b+ invested in the GE while they do GWD etc barely make anything unless they resell for a company, have workers etc.
GWD Arma with a maxed account & overloads makes you about 5-8m per hour. That sold @ 1.8 - 2.2 per mill is barely 10 - 15 per hour. Supplies and transfer fees make it more.