Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

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Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping
  1. Unread #1 - Jul 19, 2014 at 10:00 PM
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    Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

    ^That is what Folt said.

    During 2011 and 2012, the name "Go" was owned by a Dragon Dyce gold rank named Franck. Joseph could not have "owned and treasured" the name, which means that the only way Folt could have had the name to sell to Matt in the first place is if he sniped the name, or bought it from someone who did.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jul 20, 2014 at 3:08 AM
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  5. Unread #3 - Jul 20, 2014 at 3:51 AM
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    Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

    Following the logic from your version of the history of "Go". Joseph was the original owner and creator of the account, meaning, he is the only person who would be able to recover it.

    Obviously, during the dates 2011-late 2012, Franck owned the name Go

    So, even if your friend "Joseph" actually exists, and he gave you the account in 2013, he would not have been able to recover it for you when it got locked and Matt because he wasn't the original owner, which is just another huge inconsistency in your story.

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    Zero percent of your story corresponds to how events actually happened, and the fact that you are elaborately trying to cover up how you came to get the username in the first place would lead me to believe you stole the name yourself, or bought it knowing it was stolen.

    Considering your previous drama report where you maliciously aided Jagex in causing thousands of dollars in damage to your competitors and your current report where you maliciously are trying to ban your competitor, it's safe to say that you are trying to fake a report against another user.

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  7. Unread #4 - Jul 20, 2014 at 4:10 AM
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    Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

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    I pulled up a conversation from when Joseph handed over Go to me. I also pulled a time stamp of one of the messages where he tells me the login as well so that you can see the date of the message. The edited-out stuff is some personal account details that I don't think Joseph is comfortable with me sharing to the public, irrelevant anyways.

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    I didn't memorize dates. This happened almost two years ago - don't quote me on details like that because they were only estimated when i replied with that.

    The date that "Go" was in my possession was Feb 11, 2013. I RESTATE - I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT, I TRULY DON'T.

    I don't know what you're going on about. Joseph is still a friend of mine. We talk less often because he's super busy. Joseph is the one who recovered the account in May this year for Matt and I. It took us over 1 year to get it unlocked because he is the original owner and he isnt online very frequently anymore.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Jul 21, 2014 at 5:30 PM
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    Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

    I don't know what happened to the name "Go" when Franck left DD whether or was stolen or successfully sold, so I don't know if Franck is owned a refund or not.

    What I am reporting is that exactly none of the information about the history of the name in your report against Taylor is correct, which means you are purposely fabricating evidence about the history of the name, because you knew it was stolen.

    I have no idea how Taylor actually acquired the name, but since Joseph isn't the "original owner who treasured the account for years", he could not have unlocked it for you, which means the name either wasn't in your position, or your magical "unlocking" of the account means you stole it from someone else, and given your SCAMMING and acting as a double agent for Jagex in the past for the sole purpose of maliciously attacking the businesses of your competitors, you are either covering your own ass, falsifying evidence against Taylor--, or both.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jul 21, 2014 at 8:26 PM
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    Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

    I don't know either, as I stated repeatedly earlier. From what was told to me from the original owner who gave it to me in Feb 2013, he owned it for a year. He didn't go into any details about it, so I figured he just owned it and enjoyed it for the time being.

    Here is what i said about the history:

    The History of "Go"

    Mid 2011- Originally owned and created by my good friend Joseph - CORRECT
    2012- Owned and treasured by joseph - WHAT I BELIEVED TO BE CORRECT
    Jan 2013 - The account was gifted to me from Joseph, along with another group of accounts. We were good friends and he didnt play anymore. He asked for portions of the profit. The accounts were sold on Playerauctions with warranties that were renewable for 1 year+. - CORRECT / MY ESTIMATED DATE WAS OFF BY 1 MONTH - IT WAS GIVEN TO ME IN FEBRUARY, I HAVE SHOWED PROOF OF THE DELIVERY AND THE TIME OF DELIVERY.
    March 2013 - Sold to my good loyal customer Matt - CORRECT
    April 2013 - Attempted transfer by myself and Matt. (Failed) - CORRECT
    April 2013 - Name was reversed back onto the original account (for reasons unknown - probably due to macro detection in the account that owned it at the time). - CORRECT - THE REASONING IS ASSUMED
    May 2013-May2014 - ACCOUNT LOCKED - CORRECT
    May 2014 - Joseph unlocked the account for Matt and I. - CORRECT
    May 2014 - Name changed to be xferred again - CORRECT
    June 2014 - Name sniped and acquired by Taylor-- - CORRECT


    What you've claimed to report here doesn't make any sense.

    Not true at all. No evidence was fabricated at all, all evidence that I've used is valid and correct. The history of the name is completely accurate, with exception to the historical events that took place prior to my ownership.
    I've got a report which shows how he obtained it, and him admitting to the automated program he used to steal it. You should have read up on the situation before getting involved.

    Joseph is the original owner, I've showed proof of him delivering the account to me in Feb 2013.

    How can you assume this? He did unlock it for me, and that's why it took Matt and I over 1 year to resume our second attempted transfer. Because he is inactive and is the only one who can successfully recover the account.

    What are you going on about? Reference the timeline I listed as it is 100% accurate from Feb 2013 onward. There was no "magical unlocking" method used, and I didn't steal this from anyone else.

    You do not know enough about this situation to be able to share any opinion whatsoever, and I don't feel like it even needs to be addressed here anyways.

    False, and False. I am on here attempting to replace the goods of one of my good customers. I have invested all of this time for selfless reasons, because when my refund is issued, it wont even be in my hands anyways - the proceeds will be immediately given to Matt, even though I'm not obligated to do that. All of the proofs have been aligned and everything you mentioned here proves that you are completely oblivious to what is actually going on.

    I don't know who you are, or why you feel obligated to continuously embarrass yourself with your lack of understanding, but you should have educated yourself before getting involved and wasting my time, your time, and everyone else's time who actually read through all of this.

    This case can be spoken about, discussed and argued over forever and eternity, but all of the necessary proofs and information to conclude a resolution has been available for a long time. Without you coming along and spewing a load of nonsense, this could have been over and done with already.
     
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    Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

    I find it incredibly hard to believe that Joseph just so happened to have obtained the account back through legitimate means from Franck or whoever Franck sold it to, especially since according do you he is the one who is able to recover the account.

    Mods can use the corrected information I've provided in addition to your horrific scamming past to decide on the outcome other reports you are involved in, since I'm not one of the people buying, selling, or owning the name.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Jul 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM
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    Reporting FOLT for knowingly buying stolen goods/name sniping

    Unfortunately what appears to have possibly happened is Joseph recovered the name from Franck either be it the account or reporting it to Jagex. No one is now denying that it was reobtained from Franck who knows he may have even sold it.

    Without proof of Aaron knowing the name was stolen it doesn't really prove anything other than the fact Joseph didn't own it during the entire time which while that does differ from the history of "Go" it's sort of like a car. You bought a used car not knowing that it was in an accident because all you really have is the history that the seller gives you. (excluding like car facts and shit).

    It was gifted to Aaron in February and thus since we can not conclude that he KNOWINGLY accepted stolen goods (we can't actually even conclude they were initially stolen) we cannot really reprimand him for accepted a gift from a friend without further evidence.
     
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