Feminism

[Logic]

What of the right to vote?

I'm not sure about this but I'm fairy sure that women were given the right to vote because they are more easily manipulated into voting. I honestly don't believe that voting makes any major change. Actualy it should be pretty obvious by now that nothing really changes when new people get in charge. It's just an illusion of control.

 

[Logic]

Women have the option to opt out because they're the one bearing the child within. They will always have the advantage in deciding whether the child lives on, or dies. You want to blame women for manipulation? We're blinded by lust, and this is the unfortunate price we have to pay. The laws need to be more lenient towards the fathers, but other than that it's tough luck. Want to avoid all of this? Have males be more protective.

It is the women who bring up the men who have no respect towards women. Who is to blame here? I'd guess women.

And yes I blame women for manipulation men and using the state to abuse men. If you get laid off by your boss then he will not have to pay your bills for the rest of your life. If a woman does a shity job and gets fired then the man has to pay her bils for the rest of her life. How is this okay?

The price we have to pay? Dafuq mate, do you really think so little of yourself? The laws need to be abolished and we need to stop trying to force people to be together. Women need to start making smarter picks. The only reason asshole get laid is because women throw themselves at assholes. If women said "no" then men would be fast to change but atm women have no need to change because they have the force of the state and I'm not okay with it.

 

[DinaH]

It is the women who bring up the men who have no respect towards women. Who is to blame here? I'd guess women.

And yes I blame women for manipulation men and using the state to abuse men. If you get laid off by your boss then he will not have to pay your bills for the rest of your life. If a woman does a shity job and gets fired then the man has to pay her bils for the rest of her life. How is this okay?

The price we have to pay? Dafuq mate, do you really think so little of yourself? The laws need to be abolished and we need to stop trying to force people to be together. Women need to start making smarter picks. The only reason asshole get laid is because women throw themselves at assholes. If women said "no" then men would be fast to change but atm women have no need to change because they have the force of the state and I'm not okay with it.

How misguided and sexist are you? I bet you're one of the guys who bitches about the friendzone because you believe a women is indebted to sleep with you.

 

It is the women who bring up the men who have no respect towards women. Who is to blame here? I'd guess women.

And yes I blame women for manipulation men and using the state to abuse men. If you get laid off by your boss then he will not have to pay your bills for the rest of your life. If a woman does a shity job and gets fired then the man has to pay her bils for the rest of her life. How is this okay?

The price we have to pay? Dafuq mate, do you really think so little of yourself? The laws need to be abolished and we need to stop trying to force people to be together. Women need to start making smarter picks. The only reason asshole get laid is because women throw themselves at assholes. If women said "no" then men would be fast to change but atm women have no need to change because they have the force of the state and I'm not okay with it.

You see, I'm not the one paying the price because I understand the consequences. A lot of men do understand it as well, but the lust takes control of their thought processing. I won't let that get the best of me. By me saying that, I think highly of myself, not of my gender class.

Who is picking? Most of these cases are accidental/spontaneous, not intentional mating. If anything, you think little of the human race.

Both races are manipulative in their own ways. They are not better than us, and we're not better them in every case imaginable. We can't choose one specific case, and start the blame game.

What the hell are you talking about? < - Refer to the bold.

 

[Logic]

How misguided and sexist are you? I bet you're one of the guys who bitches about the friendzone because you believe a women is indebted to sleep with you.

No, I'm in happy relationship, 2+ years. I found my treasure and plan on keeping it. Hard working medicine student, in the top of her course. So yeah you can't be any more wrong.

Now please tell me how am I misguided and sexist? You are good at labeling people, but now give us some arguments instead of a big pile of bullshit.

 

[zorro_]

I'm not sure about this but I'm fairy sure that women were given the right to vote because they are more easily manipulated into voting. I honestly don't believe that voting makes any major change. Actualy it should be pretty obvious by now that nothing really changes when new people get in charge. It's just an illusion of control.

What? I'm saying that women did not have the right to vote, and therefore did not have the same rights as men did. Whether or not voting is a desirable right is irrelevant.

 

[Logic]

You see, I'm not the one paying the price because I understand the consequences. A lot of men do understand it as well, but the lust takes control of their thought processing. I won't let that get the best of me. By me saying that, I think highly of myself, not of my gender class.

Who is picking? Most of these cases are accidental/spontaneous, not intentional mating. If anything, you think little of the human race.

Both races are manipulative in their own ways. They are not better than us, and we're not better them in every case imaginable. We can't choose one specific case, and start the blame game.

What the hell are you talking about? < - Refer to the bold.

It refers to women making bad choises when it comes to choosing men.

I'm a bit lost, what "cases" are you talking about?

You are stating that it's okay that women get off scot-free while men have to pay the price for having lust?

I don't see men wearing 10kg on makeup and all sort of push-ups. Please make a few example of how men are manipulative in a relationship. I could name a shitload for women but honestly have no idea when it comes to men. To me men are pretty straight forward in a relationship.

 

[Logic]

What? I'm saying that women did not have the right to vote, and therefore did not have the same rights as men did. Whether or not voting is a desirable right is irrelevant.

I think it was Richard who posted that women were more protected by the law by not having the right to vote. By getting the right to vote they could also be drafted to go to war. I'll leave it for you to decided if that's a good outcome or not.

 

[DinaH]

No, I'm in happy relationship, 2+ years. I found my treasure and plan on keeping it. Hard working medicine student, in the top of her course. So yeah you can't be any more wrong.

Now please tell me how am I misguided and sexist? You are good at labeling people, but now give us some arguments instead of a big pile of bullshit.

Because you state the law is benefiting women when this is so untrue it's unbelievable. Let's take the UK as an example, as it's where I reside. Women are oppressed in our society because in so many differing areas and sectors, they still find themselves deeply behind men in terms of rights and privelages. Some examples include:

In the UK as an example, 78% of people who seek help following forced marriages are women and girls,

Almost 1/3 girls have experienced unwanted sexual touching in schools (YouGov Ltd (2010) End Violence Against Women Poll Results. Available at http://www.endviolenceagainstwomen.org.uk/preventing-violence-against-women),

36% of people still even today believe a women is partially responsible for sexual abuse done to her (Home Office (2009) Violence against women opinion polling. Available at http://www.huiselijkgeweld.nl/doc/english/violence-against-women-poll_2009.pdf),

Only 77% of young men agree that having sex with someone who said no is rape when it should be 100%. Having sex with someone who doesnt consent is rape. Rape is rape.

Women still get paid between 10-35% less than men (EHRC (2011) Gender pay gaps , p3. )

It is estimated that each year a mother is absent from her workplace due to being pregnant, her wages will decrease by 5% (&#8216;Motherhood &#8216;devastates&#8217; women&#8217;s pay, research finds&#8217;, The Guardian. Available at http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jul/10/mothers-wages-fawcett-society),

Men make up only 17% board directors of FTSE 100 companies,

Approximately 70% of people in national minimum wage jobs are women,

Only 1/4 MP's are women,

Only 24% of news articles on globals news channels are female orientated, or centered around females not men,

Up to 30,000 women in the UK alone are sacked each year simply for being pregnant (Equal Opportunities Commission (2005) Greater Expectations: Final Report of EOC investigation into discrimination against new and expectant mothers in the workplace).

All these stats relate to the UK, but I can guarentee you you will find mirroring issues in the US, if not a worse situation. I believe the pay gap in the US is way worse than in Britain.

 

[DinaH]

I think it was Richard who posted that women were more protected by the law by not having the right to vote. By getting the right to vote they could also be drafted to go to war. I'll leave it for you to decided if that's a good outcome or not.

I'm not even going to get into how and why you believe denying half of the population their right to legal participation and representation 'Benefits' them because that is truly bullshit. Women were denied the vote as a way of systematically oppressing them and ensuring they couldn't challenge the huge inequalities in society they faced.

 

It refers to women making bad choises when it comes to choosing men.

I'm a bit lost, what "cases" are you talking about?

You are stating that it's okay that women get off scot-free while men have to pay the price of having lust?

I don't see men wearing 10kg on makeup and all sort of push-ups. Please make a few example of how men are manipulative in a relationship. I could name a shitload for women but honestly have no idea when it comes to men. To me men are pretty straight forward in a relationship.

You're sexist.

The cases I'm talking of are having children out of wedlock, and unintentional procreation.

How are women getting off "scot-free?" Did you forget about the child they have to raise without a father?

Are you really asking how are men manipulative in a relationship? Look up the definition of manipulate. Any way a female can be manipulative, so can a male.

Please list out the "shitload".

 

[DinaH]

I don't see men wearing 10kg on makeup and all sort of push-ups.

Do men live in a society where they are subjected to so much scrutiny of their bodies that they are coerced into believing they need to wear '10kg' of makeup to retain any fragment of an idea that they are pretty?

 

[Logic]

I'm not even going to get into how and why you believe denying half of the population their right to legal participation and representation 'Benefits' them because that is truly bullshit. Women were denied the vote as a way of systematically oppressing them and ensuring they couldn't challenge the huge inequalities in society they faced.

I honestly hope you are trolling, if not then any sane person readying your comments about women vs men should understand that you my kinda lady/sir are missinformed. I'd want to use the word stupid but hopefully that isn't the case. Women are not equal to men and they never will. If you think that you can make a law that will give women more strength then you honestly are a retard. How many women do you see drilling oil in the middle of the sea or catching fish on a stormy sea? Get down to reality and try to understand that women will never be equal to men because if they were then they would be men or the other way around.

 

[Logic]

You're sexist.

The cases I'm talking of are having children out of wedlock, and unintentional procreation.

How are women getting off "scot-free?" Did you forget about the child they have to raise without a father?

Are you really asking how are men manipulative in a relationship? Look up the definition of manipulate. Any way a female can be manipulative, so can a male.

Please list out the "shitload".

Women don't have to raise the child, they can just give it away to a family with both a mother and a father or just plain give it away no question asked.

Women are master manipulators and men are noobs.

It seems to be impossible to get anything through to you so unless you start making rational arguments then I think there isn't much point in typing anything.

Please stop making yourself look bad by using the racist/sexist bullshit. Make a solid argument and tell me how am I sexist.

 

[DinaH]

I honestly hope you are trolling, if not then any sane person readying your comments about women vs men should understand that you my kinda lady/sir are missinformed. I'd want to use the word stupid but hopefully that isn't the case. Women are not equal to men and they never will. If you think that you can make a law that will give women more strength then you honestly are a retard. How many women do you see drilling oil in the middle of the sea or catching fish on a stormy sea? Get down to reality and try to understand that women will never be equal to men because if they were then they would be men or the other way around.

I am honestly shocked at how truly sexist you are. What you have just said is deeply offensive to half of the human race and the way you degrade females as second best to men is deeply disturbing and shocking. Women are every bit as talented, every bit as intelligent and every bit as deserving of rights and liberty as men. To try and advocate otherwise makes you no better than an 1860's white supremacist in America who attempted to justify racism.

You legitimately just said women 'are not equal to men and they never will [sic]' yet you try and say to Ghast that you are not sexist? You are the very definition of sexist, you believe men are superior to women and you should be incredibly embarrassed that you remain so awfully discriminatory and primitive in a world where some of us are trying to reach equality for all.

 

[Logic]

Do men live in a society where they are subjected to so much scrutiny of their bodies that they are coerced into believing they need to wear '10kg' of makeup to retain any fragment of an idea that they are pretty?

You are a hopeless cause so I will not even bother trying to explain how the real world works.

 

[DinaH]

You are a hopeless cause so I will not even bother trying to explain how the real world works.

I'm sorry but you actually scare me. It shocks me how someone can be so prejudiced and discriminatory towards other human beings. I am literally afraid of you.

 

[Logic]

I am honestly shocked at how truly sexist you are. What you have just said is deeply offensive to half of the human race and the way you degrade females as second best to men is deeply disturbing and shocking. Women are every bit as talented, every bit as intelligent and every bit as deserving of rights and liberty as men. To try and advocate otherwise makes you no better than an 1860's white supremacist in America who attempted to justify racism.

Where the fk did I say that men are better than women? Start using your brain and stop putting words in my mouth. Does being able to give birth make women better than men or does being able to produce sperm make men better then women? All I said was that men are not equal to women, because if they were then we would all be men or women.

 

Women don't have to raise the child, they can just give it away to a family with both a mother and a father or just plain give it away no question asked.

Women are master manipulators and men are noobs.

It seems to be impossible to get anything through to you so unless you start making rational arguments then I think there isn't much point in typing anything.

Please stop making yourself look bad by using the racist/sexist bullshit. Make a solid argument and tell me how am I sexist.

What the hell? Are you even reading what you're saying? They should not feel obligated to give away their child because it would be harder to raise. That is ludacris.

Im done with you.

 

[Logic]

I'm sorry but you actually scare me. It shocks me how someone can be so prejudiced and discriminatory towards other human beings. I am literally afraid of you.

I admit having the urge to smack some sense into you but since that doesn't really work then I will just try to ignore your stupidity.