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Factors Affecting Macroing Bans

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I heard that the age of the account is a determining factor of whether the ban is a permanent ban or just a short 48-hour ban, but this is most likely just hearsay. What do you think are possible factors that affect these types of bans? Also, what are the chances of getting banned for macroing, and for getting banned for macroing although you've never done it? The latter happened to me twice already on 2 accounts which I used to spam click drop parties, so I'm wondering how does Jagex actually determine how you're botting/how long of a ban does your botting warrant.
 
One of my really old accounts got perma banned instantly when I was stupidly trying a bot on it without knowing the ban rate. This was a little while ago
 
I hardly believe that you were banned due to auto clicking at a drop party... I use mouse keys and auto clickers wayyyy too frequently.. Never a ban on that account. Sure, I have been banned for botting like an hour into it.. I feel like a major factor is repetition.

This is my idea how Jagex detects bots:

They run some sort of sweep throughout the game to see the location of the players that are online. Once they get that number, they have some sort of program telling them which accounts have been doing actions over and over and how long that they have been there. If the computer detects an account with a screwed up name that has been doing the same stuff for hours, it will most likely be banned..

That is the way that I think Jagex does it and I'm not at all saying that it is true.. just a guess
 
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I'm going to quote myself for an explanation:

The bot nuke worked for bots that either change the client or directly grab data from the client without using the screen. Nearly any change that they do to the client will break all of these bots until the makers update. The bot nuke was this just being taken to an extreme in the hopes that it would take too much effort to update the bots for the new client. Obviously that did not work.

Bot detection works in many many many ways. The best public bot that has ever been made is more than likely the robotindisguise mage training arena bot circa 2007. It was good enough that JMods were spending hours in the arena observing players and trying to catch them. If there had been a bot detected on your IP previously they banned your mage training arena account. With technical solutions alone it was basically impossible to detect.

Those technical solutions basically involve collecting tons of data about the inputs that you are giving the game. If you setup an auto clicker that clicks the exact same spot in the exact same intervals, it is easy to tell that you are botting. Bot makers try to introduce randomness into their bots but generally that amount is severely limited in scope. For instance the bot may click a random spot on each inventory slot to drop the entire inventory. However, if you collect all of the clicks over a few days you will see that each possible location to be clicked in each spot are clicked at roughly the same rate. A human would be unable to do that and more likely than not you click in a similar spot in each inventory slot, likely in the middle but maybe closer to a corner or side.

Jagex is also able to detect when your client is modified which gives them a strong indication that they should look into your account further. That is when they would turn on the more intensive data collection on your account. Then it comes down to statistics.
 
In terms of the age of your account, yes, I'm sure that plays into their decision making. If you're caught botting on a "main" account, if you're given a second chance, you're likely to renew your subscription. If it's purely a farming account / low level, a permanent ban will cause you to create a new account and subscription.
 
I think it is actually totally up to the discretion of the moderator banning you. I've personally seen many become instantly banned and some given the less intensive option. I have been out of the scene for a while so things may have very much changed.
 
I hardly believe that you were banned due to auto clicking at a drop party... I use mouse keys and auto clickers wayyyy too frequently.. Never a ban on that account. Sure, I have been banned for botting like an hour into it.. I feel like a major factor is repetition.

This is my idea how Jagex detects bots:

They run some sort of sweep throughout the game to see the location of the players that are online. Once they get that number, they have some sort of program telling them which accounts have been doing actions over and over and how long that they have been there. If the computer detects an account with a screwed up name that has been doing the same stuff for hours, it will most likely be banned..

That is the way that I think Jagex does it and I'm not at all saying that it is true.. just a guess

I think repetition is part of it but RID bots do repetition and don't get banned.
 
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I'm not sure about how old your account is affecting your ban, I got perm banned on a 5 year old account last year, and I got temp banned on a 3 month old account this year. I dont think that affects it much, its just the severity of the offence.
 
Macroing factors can easily be detected by analyzing spare accounts and purposely getting them banned and tracking what did what and how it happened.

Most factors include, but are not limited to:

- Area of botting

- Type of resource

- Skill

- Time of day

Of course how long you are botting is the main factor, but the above are additional, yet small types you should be on the lookout for.
 
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I'm not sure about how old your account is affecting your ban, I got perm banned on a 5 year old account last year, and I got temp banned on a 3 month old account this year. I dont think that affects it much, its just the severity of the offence.

They do link new accounts to your old accounts and monitor you much more closely if you have been banned before.
 
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Pretty sure the payment method you use factors as well, if you use a paypal from an account that got banned on a new account it could act as a flagging method.
 
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Pretty sure the payment method you use factors as well, if you use a paypal from an account that got banned on a new account it could act as a flagging method.

Yep. RID listed all the rules you had to follow to not get banned with his bot and they all involved leaving absolutely no trace between your new account and your old account. Jagex was so annoyed with his undetectable bot that they were banning people on even the slightest evidence.
 
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Yep. RID listed all the rules you had to follow to not get banned with his bot and they all involved leaving absolutely no trace between your new account and your old account. Jagex was so annoyed with his undetectable bot that they were banning people on even the slightest evidence.

What is RID?
 
new bot detective, movements and time played is huge now inbans. So advanced now.

Wow type shit.
 
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