Eren Requesting a Pardon for Scamming

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Eren

Report/post/reason that got you banned:

Scammed by Eren (Runescape 2007 Questing Service) and I was also given a 7 day ban for a Trade with Caution evasion on the account "Auriel". I had initially received a Trade with Caution in good conscious by Wortel for being a staff member on Alora.

Proof of contacting victims for repayment or repayment of victims:

Victim #1
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Victim #2
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(Both users have stated that they have contacted Gen and Chloe in regards to their reimbursement from me.)

Anything you weren't banned for but want to confess to now:

Yes, as I told Gen, I wanted to come clean about being a staff member on a private server. I was a Global Moderator on the private server known as "Alora". I had fully resigned, but I was a staff member during my short time on Sythe. I wanted to resign in regard to taking Sythe much more seriously and being devoted to this community in opening up my business. I also tried ban evading on the account "Ring" to start a completely fresh path and get away from "Eren" for reasons I'll disclose in the section below. I've come to realize my best bet in getting back into the Sythe community is just confronting these issues and doing what is right regardless of the outcome by the staff team of Sythe.

Detailed description of the events that took place:

So I'd like to provide some background context so all of this makes sense. I became a staff member on Alora in June previously to joining Sythe. I worked up the ranks and after a month or so I became a Global Moderator on the server. I had heard from a few friends that Sythe had a lot of potential and showed me their profiles, what they were doing, how they got there, and what I should do if I wanted to join. I made a good group of friends in the administrative and higher management team on Alora and we became a group of 5 people, I, being the leading role of the Sythe business that we were investing into. I realized this was a very bad move because if any bad blood boiled between any of us my partners could very easily report my Sythe account and get it banned at free will because I held a staff position on the private server Alora, which isn't allowed on Sythe as I've been told. As a Global Moderator, I was managing the Server Moderators and Server Supports of the staff team, real world trading cases, hacking cases, etc. Now I wanted to get out of the Sythe business and just go solo because my partners weren't as dedicated to the cause as I was and weren't putting in nearly as much work and money as I was. We wanted to create a website, create marketing, and create a community within our business. I became more and more paranoid about my partners potentially scamming or exposing the fact that I was a staff member on Alora as they had the means to easily do so. I contacted one of my partners who I was close with and told him to take the Sythe account and complete the orders existing orders and I keep the 300m 07 that the customers had paid (Cyous) as my contribution to the account. Now realize I personally invested 800$ roughly into the Sythe account ranging from donations, thread layouts, the username image, the signature, and I was looking to invest another $1000 into a fully functioning website. I had become more and more paranoid and I just wanted to get out of this group and make my own account completely disconnected from my partners. My partner who I discussed the 300m 07 with decided to change the password to the mule we stored our wealth on and decided to scam me. He instantly started making excuses such as "I'm not at my hotel, when I changed the password it was out of insurance in-case you weren't going to uphold your part of the deal, I changed the password to random characters, etc." Honestly, I thought he was joking and I just let time pass and kept messaging him, eventually he stopped responding and went offline. I got pretty nervous and it was apparent at this point he was going to scam me so I contacted the Head Administrator of Alora to speak to him and he was giving me insight on what to do with the scenario. Out of sheer curiosity, I decided to try typing the password again and it wasn't correct, I knew this user very well so I took a random guess and luckily I managed to guess the password, and there was the 300m 07. I know this sounds ridiculous but the password of the account was ganggang1, and the user was very well known for saying "Skrt skrt" constantly so the password I tried was "skrtskrt1" and it worked. Then I spoke with the head staff members and got this user demoted from the staff team of Alora. At this point I had two options, I could refund the 300m 07 and continue on Sythe with the paranoia that my partner could easily get my account banned for being a staff member on Alora or I could just make a new Sythe account and start completely fresh and continue with my business venture. I tried making a new account called "Ring", it was instantly banned. I realized this was pointless and I decided to refund the users and come clean to the staff team of Sythe with everything that happened, from me evading Trade with Caution for potentially being a staff member on Alora, from me actually being a staff member on Alora, to me being banned for "scam-quitting", and to me making a new account "Ring". I hope I've explained this thoroughly, and if anyone has any questions on this, please contact me on Skype at [email protected] as I do not know if I'll be able to reply to this.


Why you think we should forgive you?:

I've caused an unnecessary mess and I take responsibility for my actions. I fully understand what I did was disrespectful, undeniably idiotic, and crushing to those innocent users involved. Although I've come to realize how wrong I was, I'm still embarrassed with the way I handled this situation and I'm just hoping for a second chance. I've donated so much to Sythe and I was truly wanting to help this community and continue contributing to build it up. I promise to make up for this and I'm willing to fully cooperate with any requests by the staff team of Sythe. I'm so sorry for this and I'm just hoping to receive a second chance and redeem myself, so one day you can look back on this and be glad that I've managed to come far from where I am now. You're a great community and I really want to continue being apart of the Sythe community from the marketing perspective to the social environment this forums has created and evolved into.

Did you fully read and follow this sticky thread in the pardon section?:

Yes, I have fully and thoroughly read the stick thread in the pardon section.

Closing

Apart from what has happened in the recent days and my pardon, I'd like to end this with a deep apology to Cyous and Tibor (the two users I've refunded who were caught in this dilemma). I've expressed my deepest apologies to both of you and I hope you can forgive me for this. I'd also like to give a thank you to RebornKings, Gen and Chloe in helping me with this mess I've created.

Thank you and best wishes,

Eren

 

Eren send this to me and wants to talk to @Chloe.

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Spoiler: Chatlog

[13-Sep-17 23:08:23] Wortel - AFK: Hai, im gonna sleep, but can you explain me everything meanwhile? As in, why did you get banned and what has happened so far? Thanks, gn
[13-Sep-17 23:09:18] Wortel - AFK: Im asking just so I can confirm whether or not I can give you a DNT meanwhile
[0:17:12 | Removed 2:05:47] Eren: This message has been removed.
[2:05:39] Eren: Alright so originally I was given TWC on the account "Auriel" by you for being a potential staff member on the RSPS Alora. I made a new account because I wanted to have a clean reputation and was going to donate 300-500$ in the upcoming days and begin my new business venture on Sythe. I admitted in my pardon that I was indeed a global moderator from Alora, and I had 4 people (upper-staff members) who were working for me in the business. Now I started getting paranoid because these users at any moment could've reported me for being a staff member on Alora and gotten me banned. The more time past on, the more paranoid I became. I realized this became too unhealthy to be apart of and I just wanted to get out. So I talked to one of my partners about it and about getting out of the Sythe business. I told him I'd give him control of the account and I'd take the 300m (money from the two orders I partially completed by the customers Tibor and Cyous), and my partner would complete the order. Eventually my partner scammed me thinking I was trying to scam him, but how could I scam him when I was giving him the business, and taking the 300m that would've rightfully been mine considering I had invested 800$~ into the Sythe account out of my own pocket. It was the fairest route anyways the user blatantly tried scamming me and I got him demoted from Alora. The reason I evaded on the account "Ring" after was because I knew if I stayed on "Eren", that user would've had malicious intent and gotten the account banned, in which he did by reporting "Eren" for being a staff member and evading on the account "Auriel". I realize I was in the wrong because I took the 300m from the customers without fully completing their order, and then I tried ban evading to start off clean. After I got one of my workers demoted, I also resigned from Alora as a global moderator to pursue my business and ventures on Sythe. After I was easily caught on "Ring", I took the right path and owned up to my mistakes and faults. Although I partially completed the orders, I fully refunded the users in everything and admitted on my pardon my staff position on an RSPS. Honestly, I feel really ashamed because my career path in life is to become a physician and this type of mentality and mindset completely contradicts "helping people". I'm upset with myself about this deeply and I hope you can find any sympathy to give me a second chance so I can redeem myself. If you need anything else, or have any questions let me know.
[7:55:13 | Edited 7:58:45] Eren: Ahh I forgot to answer your second part, so far, I've been staying fully clean, no rule breaking, no more new accounts, I've fully refunded both users involved, I've resigned from Alora as a Global Moderator to dedicate myself to Sythe, and I've posted a pardon, just waiting on that to be checked out. That is everything.
[10:06:02] Wortel - AFK: Are you aware ban/TWC evading and account sharing is against the rules of Sythe?
[10:16:22] Eren: I am fully aware that it is against the rules and I take full responsibility for all the wrongdoings I've committed.
[10:36:32] Wortel - AFK: You sound kinda smart about it, meaning I'm nearly sure you knew about it being wrong before aswell, so why did you ban/TWC evade and share your Sythe account (assuming you did share it) anyways?
[10:36:58] Eren: I didn't share it at all
[10:37:12] Eren: I was the only user to access the account
[10:38:20] Eren: I evaded the TWC because I was getting ready to put in massive amounts of cash into my Sythe account. I also evaded the TWC because I was asked to have 5 successful trades on Alora before it was to be removed.
[10:38:40] Eren: Being a staff member on Alora getting 5 trades would've been impossible at the time.
[10:39:41] Eren: I ban evaded on "Ring" to escape all of my partners and the potential threat that they would come back and report "Eren" for being a staff member on an RSPS (which is exactly what they did).
[10:40:30] Wortel - AFK: You wouldn't get rid of the TWC if you provided us proof of vouches which were for your other account, you would instead be rewared with a banned rank, so that's a pretty stupid reason
[10:40:58] Eren: What do you mean?
[10:41:03] Wortel - AFK: The purpose was to get vouches on the account with the TWC
[10:41:21] Wortel - AFK: If you wanted to dispute the TWC by doing trades from an alternate account on Sythe you'd be banned anyways
[10:41:43] Eren: Yeah but I was asked for 5 vouches from Alora, I couldn't do that as a global mod on Alora
[10:42:15] Wortel - AFK: True but you didn't tell us you were at that time
[10:42:39] Eren: I was fearful of getting banned for being a staff member on an RSPS
[10:42:43] Eren: :/
[10:43:06] Wortel - AFK: Well your reasoning doesn't make it right what you did, I hope you do realise that
[10:43:18] Eren: Of course not, I fully acknowledge that.
[10:43:37] Eren: All responsibility and wrongdoing is on me, this is something I fully understand.
[10:43:45] Wortel - AFK: How's it going between you and your (ex?)team now?
[10:44:15] Eren: When I kicked them out of the business and resigned I fully stopped speaking to them.
[10:44:46] Eren: They completely cut me off and eventually drama stirred and I was mistreated and ip banned from Alora for "defamation and drama".
[10:45:16] Eren: I exposed their corruption and I haven't spoken to any of them in the past 3 weeks.
[10:46:09] Wortel - AFK: Was it really you vs them 3? I don't believe they were all thinking the same, some of them must've been a bit more clearheaded?
[10:48:24] Eren: There were 4 of us
[10:48:28] Eren: 2 Global Moderators
[10:48:30] Eren: 1 administrator
[10:48:31] Eren: and the manager
[10:48:38] Eren: me and the other global were close
[10:48:49] Eren: me and the manager were close as well
[10:48:51] Eren: in this business
[10:49:00] Eren: it was primarily me doing the work
[10:49:04] Eren: the manager wasnt doing anything
[10:49:17] Eren: the other global was maintaining the rsps gold shop we had
[10:49:26] Eren: and the administrator was doing the LoL boosting service
[10:49:30] Eren: they werent thinking they same thing
[10:49:42] Eren: me and the global were in conflict
[10:49:53] Eren: the manager and the administrator had no part really
[10:50:23] Wortel - AFK: Who was the girl? Assuming girls think different than guys?
[10:50:23] Eren: but the manager was very emotionally unstable and even jokingly stated "im about to say fuck this and even get this sythe account banned for being staff" as he knew it was my deep paranoia
[10:50:32] Eren: the girl was cut out early
[10:50:36] Eren: she was known as Sara
[10:50:47] Wortel - AFK: Why did she leave?
[10:51:07] Eren: I kicked her out because when i asked her to do an order she was talking about botting stats
[10:51:18] Eren: which is unacceptable lol
[10:52:24] Wortel - AFK: Now that we have evidence you guys were staff on Alora, how do you explain those accusations on your account Auriel? How were those users caught RWTing/banned?
[10:53:05] Eren: The report you handled by the user who claimed I was satff
[10:53:08] Eren: was bug abusing
[10:53:23] Eren: he was vpn abusing and using a server glitch to mass produce vote books and sell them for massive amounts of $
[10:53:30] Eren: and then rwt the vote books
[10:54:00] Wortel - AFK: And you discovered that when you traded him, because you looked into him prior to trading?
[10:54:24] Eren: indeed
[10:54:32] Eren: i had a list of accounts on a file
[10:54:40] Eren: that were warned accounts by various staff members and myself
[10:54:44] Eren: for potential rule breaking etc.
[10:55:23] Wortel - AFK: And I assume you knew this was wrong aswell?
[10:55:55] Eren: Yes, I full acknowledge this was wrong and isn't allowed on Sythe.
[10:56:26] Eren: I was hunting for people real world trading their accounts, their gold, and any services in correlation to Alora as a Global Moderator of the server.
[10:56:47] Eren: It was my primary job besides managing the staff team
[10:57:15] Eren: How were those users caught RWTing/banned?Are you asking for our methods of catching real world traders?
[10:57:37] Wortel - AFK: No, leave that
[10:57:42] Eren: alright
[10:57:56] Wortel - AFK: Were those banned afterwards on Alora refunded aswell?
[10:58:30] Eren: I didn't refund the users I banned from Alora in correlation to Sythe.
[10:59:00] Wortel - AFK: I mean the ones who claim to be banned after they traded you
[10:59:09] Wortel - AFK: The ones who claim so on Sythe
[10:59:30] Eren: the only one I know of is the user whose report you handled when you gave me the TWC
[10:59:42] Eren: let me check the auriel account
[10:59:54] Wortel - AFK: Alora Staff member
[10:59:56] Wortel - AFK: this one?
[11:00:28] Eren: it was this user and the other one was the vpn/server glitch abusing user
[11:00:39] Eren: yep
[11:00:40] Eren: this is the one
[11:02:31] Wortel - AFK: Did you share the account Auriel with anyone or was it just you?
[11:02:42] Eren: I didn't share Auriel nor Eren.
[11:03:18 | Edited 11:03:57] Eren: I was going to transfer ownership of "Eren" and the business to my partner (which would've been account sharing).
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[11:05:06] Wortel - AFK: how much was this worth?
[11:06:21] Eren: 21.5m Alora gp, the rates were 100m alora gp / 5-6m 07 gp
[11:08:08] Wortel - AFK: How much would that make it worth in 07gp?
[11:08:26] Eren: ~1.1m 07
[11:08:54] Wortel - AFK: Meh doubt that's worth refunding considering the user himself was banned for scamming too
[11:09:02] Wortel - AFK: Can you find the other report?
[11:09:09] Eren: he never reported me
[11:10:08] Wortel - AFK: Kk, are there any other Alora staff you get along with still, which you didn't do business with on the Eren account?
[11:10:38] Eren: I don't speak to any of them anymore, but I can get in contact with them.
[11:10:47] Eren: I'm in good standing with the majority of them
[11:11:20] Wortel - AFK: If you'd get pardoned and would continue to trade on let's say even Alora, would you ever snitch them to the staff?
[11:11:52] Eren: I have no intentions of rwting/associating myself with any selective RSPS again.
[11:12:10] Eren: If you, the Staff team of Sythe, would like me to hunt for staff members of Alora on Sythe? I can easily do so.
[11:12:25] Wortel - AFK: Absolutely not.
[11:12:27] Eren: I've already had rebornkings report one.
[11:13:05] Eren: oh
[11:13:06] Eren: you mean
[11:13:15] Eren: trade with customers and snitch them to the staff of alora?
[11:13:19] Wortel - AFK: Yes
[11:13:19] Eren: lol i'd never do that.
[11:13:37] Eren: I've fully cut myself out of Alora, and its staff team.
[11:14:24] Eren: Oh and also
[11:14:25] Eren: Staff Update 27-08-2017 - Staff Updates
[11:14:36] Eren: Gyazo - 083d3f43ff519b371c6f4c3e19f43a48.png
[11:14:41] Eren: that was my resignation^
[11:14:50] Eren: Gyazo - e5daeb01e236923e0673a9bee1d2581e.png
[11:15:05] Eren: that was the user who was my partner/attempted to scam me that i got demoted^
[11:15:14] Wortel - AFK: Was he called Arti?
[11:15:32] Eren: no
[11:15:41] Eren: his name was Adam
[11:15:54] Wortel - AFK: Ow
[11:15:57] Eren: (or so he told me)
[11:16:32] Wortel - AFK: Well even when you did, I assume that before all those issues came up I do think you liked helping a RSPS, so if you ever would return to a RSPS as staff or w/e you're aware you're not allowed to work for an RSPS which bans for RWTing while being on Sythe?
[11:17:46] Eren: Alora was the first RSPS I've ever played seriously, and it will be the last. I fully acknowledge that I will not be allowed to work for any RSPS while being on Sythe which bans for RWTing.
[11:18:25] Wortel - AFK: And you're also fully aware of the Sythe rules overall now?
[11:18:40] Eren: I'm fully aware of the rules of Sythe.
[11:19:09] Wortel - AFK: Kk I'll grant you the DNT rank, the rest will be up to global+ mods.
[11:19:22] Eren: Alright, thank you!
[11:19:40] Wortel - AFK: Mind if I share our chat with the rest of the staff?
[11:19:50] Eren: I have no problem with it.
[11:19:58] Eren: You can fully share this with the rest of the staff team.

 

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