drugs - how far will you go?

[hybanks2000]

i also occationly smoke weed ohh and like once a month i take an oxycotton

 

[Fat Lard]

I don't think I have any real limits - apart from crack/meth, perhaps.

What is wrong with methamphetamine? It is prescribed for ADHD to minors under the brand name Desoxyn. Also, racemic amphetamine salts are prescribed very frequently under the brand name Adderall. If you were to add a methyl group to amphetamine, you would be left with meth. Sure, you will want the Dextro isomer, but same shit.

Crack? Well, that's just freebase cocaine. Snortable coke is simply Hydrochloride salt of cocaine. Most scientists don't believe cocaine to be physically addicting, but there is no doubt it is habit forming.

Heroin? Well, heroin is simply the diacetylated version of morphine. And morphine is simply the demethylated form of codeine. Actually, codeine is converted into morphine during metabolization anyway. I'm not saying opiates aren't bad, but if you use morphine or codeine recreationally but speak like acetylating and/or demethylating a chemical can turn "safe" pills into the devils smack.

Billyy - Nothing synthetic? What in the hell? Acid is synthetic. And what is the fucking difference between psilocin in mushrooms and synthetic psilocin? What? You act like substituting a few groups will make the drug fucking kill you. Come on man. Use some common sense.


I've done my fair share of opiates. Yet to try heroin, but am planning on it. Tried dex-amphetamine and dex-methamphetamine. MDMA fits in with the amphetamines. Had a pill that tested positive for MDA before and that was interesting. Done DMT, 5-meo-dmt, salvia, mushrooms and 4-aco-dmt, LSD, 2ce, 2ci, done a little ketamine and probably some other research chems I'm forgetting. I haven't tried mescaline yet and that's on my list. Done some coke... Smoked pot and hashish of course.

Where do I draw the line? I would like to say needles, but I couldn't say for sure. I'm pretty much done with amphetamines, coke and opiates, but like I said I do want to try heroin. I won't be shooting that though. I wouldn't mind a 25mg shot of 4-aco-dmt some day or maybe an IM injection of ketamine, but needles would be a VERY rare thing for me to do. My advice to you kids is try whatever you want but stay away from needles. I have seen many people get fucked when they start shooting up. Anyway, peace. Stay safe.


P.S. Also did N2O and DXM hahaha. I know I'm forgetting a lot of stuff. Oh, and nicotine. And harmine/harmaline MAOIs. And methylphenidate(Ritalin) which is shit IMO. Don't bother with it. Whatever I'll just add to the list if I think of something.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I've had a few bad experiences in my family with crack and meth. Turns out people steal for them. D:

 

[Billyy]

What is wrong with methamphetamine? It is prescribed for ADHD to minors under the brand name Desoxyn. Also, racemic amphetamine salts are prescribed very frequently under the brand name Adderall. If you were to add a methyl group to amphetamine, you would be left with meth. Sure, you will want the Dextro isomer, but same shit.

Crack? Well, that's just freebase cocaine. Snortable coke is simply Hydrochloride salt of cocaine. Most scientists don't believe cocaine to be physically addicting, but there is no doubt it is habit forming.

Heroin? Well, heroin is simply the diacetylated version of morphine. And morphine is simply the demethylated form of codeine. Actually, codeine is converted into morphine during metabolization anyway. I'm not saying opiates aren't bad, but if you use morphine or codeine recreationally but speak like acetylating and/or demethylating a chemical can turn "safe" pills into the devils smack.

Billyy - Nothing synthetic? What in the hell? Acid is synthetic. And what is the fucking difference between psilocin in mushrooms and synthetic psilocin? What? You act like substituting a few groups will make the drug fucking kill you. Come on man. Use some common sense.


I've done my fair share of opiates. Yet to try heroin, but am planning on it. Tried dex-amphetamine and dex-methamphetamine. MDMA fits in with the amphetamines. Had a pill that tested positive for MDA before and that was interesting. Done DMT, 5-meo-dmt, salvia, mushrooms and 4-aco-dmt, LSD, 2ce, 2ci, done a little ketamine and probably some other research chems I'm forgetting. I haven't tried mescaline yet and that's on my list. Done some coke... Smoked pot and hashish of course.

Where do I draw the line? I would like to say needles, but I couldn't say for sure. I'm pretty much done with amphetamines, coke and opiates, but like I said I do want to try heroin. I won't be shooting that though. I wouldn't mind a 25mg shot of 4-aco-dmt some day or maybe an IM injection of ketamine, but needles would be a VERY rare thing for me to do. My advice to you kids is try whatever you want but stay away from needles. I have seen many people get fucked when they start shooting up. Anyway, peace. Stay safe.

LSD is synthesized from lysergic acid, which is derived from ergot. Ergot is a grain fungus that grows on Rye.

I don't consider LSD synthetic. And there is no reason to flame me for my own personal reasoning.

 

[Fat Lard]

Oh don't get me wrong. Amphetamines and cocaine are horrible things, but it pisses me off when people will take their friend's adderall script but scream and yell about meth. The only drugs worth taking are hallucinogens and cannabis. I consider MDMA an empathogen, and that can be useful depending on how you use it. I just like to experiment with the other stuff for the hell of it.

 

[Billyy]

Oh don't get me wrong. Amphetamines and cocaine are horrible things, but it pisses me off when people will take their friend's adderall script but scream and yell about meth. The only drugs worth taking are hallucinogens and cannabis. I consider MDMA an empathogen, and that can be useful depending on how you use it. I just like to experiment with the other stuff for the hell of it.

Exactly my thoughts. Hallucinogens and Cannabis is what I'm sticking to. Besides, I've never done any pills or anything, and I don't plan on going that far.

 

[hm0ng]

I've had a few bad experiences in my family with crack and meth. Turns out people steal for them. D:

Meth is a fucked up drug. Seriously. I've seen too many bad things happen.

 

[Fat Lard]

LSD is synthesized from lysergic acid, which is derived from ergot. Ergot is a grain fungus that grows on Rye.

I don't consider LSD synthetic. And there is no reason to flame me for my own personal reasoning.

Heroin is synthesized from naturally occur morphine in poppy pods. Actually, all you need to do is add acetic anhydride to the naturally occuring morphine and you would be left with diacetylmorphine(Heroin). Is it synthetic?

Methamphetamine is synthesized from naturally occuring ephedrine/pseudoephedrine. Just add some HI and red phosphorus, heat, and poof, methamphetamine. Actually, methamphetamine is naturally occuring in small amounts in certain species of Acacia tress.

Cocaine IS naturally occuring, as is. Safe? Far from it.

I could go on and on. The point is that how safe a drug is isn't determined by how many steps it takes to synthesize it.

 

[hybanks2000]

most unperscribed drugs are bad even perscribed ones will fuck you up if you take them wrong

 

[Fat Lard]

most unperscribed drugs are bad even perscribed ones will fuck you up if you take them wrong

You are an idiot. Just because the government gives you a tiny piece of paper saying you can do something doesn't make it safe. The prescribe oxycodone, morphine, methamphetamine, amphetamine, various benzos, barbituates, etc etc. Those things are HORRIBLE for you. Pot, DMT, mushrooms and LSD are all more or less non-toxic. Why can't I use these? Your logic is flawed.

 

[hybanks2000]

You are an idiot. Just because the government gives you a tiny piece of paper saying you can do something doesn't make it safe. The prescribe oxycodone, morphine, methamphetamine, amphetamine, various benzos, barbituates, etc etc. Those things are HORRIBLE for you. Pot, DMT, mushrooms and LSD are all more or less non-toxic. Why can't I use these? Your logic is flawed.

i agree somewhat some doctors like a freinds i once had perscribed her an ungodly amout of oxycodone.

 

[Zypur]

I've done weed and shrooms. I am doing DMT and acid in the near future. I don't think I'd ever go near anything like Ketamine, heroin, meth, crack, etc.

Mushrooms I like, as there is no negative affect, and little to no people have ever died from it.

Actually... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RisxckQlzc

 

[wtp]

I think it makes the most sense to just stay away from this stuff.

 

[Xtern]

I would stop at weed. Everyone thinks that weed is a bad drug when its not. In my opinion i think it is OK to try it once and maybe occasionally smoke. If you do more then weed i think that your endangering yourself.

 

[ironblade87]

No drugs. Period.

 

[I am not high anymore]

weed does it for me.

i have no interest on trying anything new.

 

[Swan]

How can you hate them if you've never tried them?

I've never tried any illegal substances, but I CAN say I hate them. Do you know why? Have you ever seen the effects illegal drugs have had on perfectly good people? It fucks with their personality, their body becomes frail, and they die prematurely. These once great people become shells of their former selves.

Even Marijuana has been linked to mental disorders recently, and I would rather live my life without Schizophrenia. All other illicit substances are out of the question, for obvious health risks.

If I'm going to live, I'd rather a healthy functioning body for a long time, rather than a body that has taken illegal drugs and isn't. Even more so, I prefer to keep check on reality - If my mind is wandering in pixie land, how can I get anything done? I like to be in control of my actions.

Edit:

I would stop at weed. Everyone thinks that weed is a bad drug when its not. In my opinion i think it is OK to try it once and maybe occasionally smoke. If you do more then weed i think that your endangering yourself.

Marijuana has been linked to Schizophrenia. I like my mind as it is.

 

[lil_melo15]

I'll have to stop at weed. I don't plan on taking anything new.

 

[Azza 4556]

I'd probably do cannabis and cocaine but other stuff after that I probably wouldn't do.

 

[Ughster]

I've done around 30 different drugs.. would be a little bit of a hassle to list them all.

Anyway, all drugs have the potential to be bad when not used in moderation. At this point, I'm pretty much sober, but out of all the drugs I've done the only ones I really see myself ever using again in the future are Mushrooms and DMT, and maybe LSD/ketamine/mdma if the opportunity ever presents itself again and I feel good about it.

Though, don't go around thinking the hallucinogens are 100% safe - they are in physical sense, but mentally is a different story.. I learned the hard way that you can trip a few wires in your brain if you go too deep into the rabbit hole.