Dragondyce Scam report

All those screenshots that he posted to warn me not to do it, are months after the screenshots I posted when the scam took place. Meaning that he's lying. Secondly, he scammed like 5 people and I was one of them

 

His max was 1500$, and twists customers were owed 1660$. He was already over the max and getting ready to scam...

 

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07/04/2021 is the date the scam took place. Why is twistedtaco showing screenshots of later dates telling me that he warned me prior. His rank was planning a scam quit, I got caught in it, and he is making me pay for it so he doesn't have to.

 

1660$ btw is what I could find in our dm's. He additionally scammed 1300$ because he hosted two bets and 1000$ is what he scammed me for. I ended up paying 2900$ for twist when he max is 1500$

 

How can I be the reason he is over his max, when twists customers were owed over his max. He was over his max regardless of whatever I did lol

 

[twistedtaco]

i posted screenshots of you stating in your own words that Hormone owed you, you did not say me , you said Hormone, so your lying, thats all the evidence needed to show your lying, and you even told me earlier today that the only reason u made this sythe report is because you were angry that i was thinking of rehiring hormone if he paid a fine
As i stated earlier, i posted the evidence showing your lying , i do not owe you anything, you said it yourself
Good day

 

He owes me because you forced me to pay it for you!!! And now when the scammer says he wants to pay back his debts so he can rejoin, you tell him to pay you instead of me and delete the screenshots of you saying it like bruh where is the justice

 

[twistedtaco]

He owes me because you forced me to pay it for you!!!

your lying, i proved it, its pointless to continue arguing back and forth, they can rule now, your angry 8 months later and you said yourself thats why your brought forth this sythe report. Leave me and my clan alone and dont lure our members anymore, thank you

Pirate's grasp on the situation as he stated earlier is what happened, Secnx is now 8months later angry and is the only reason he's doing this

 

Are you saying you didn't force me to pay your customers or what. What am I lying about. How can I report you back then when you are holding my rank hostage

 

[twistedtaco]

i don't really see the issue here, if i'm getting this correctly... a host had a max value they could hold, u knew that this host had a max value, but allowed him to go over it, thus giving him the opportunity to scam quit. the owners of said clan forced u to pay what the host scam quit, as long as this money was paid to the customers, i don't really see anything wrong with it

You broke clan rules, i showed evidence you lied multiple times, Hattez stated it and now so did a sythe mod, Waiting on a ruling please, we're done here

 

Where in your rules does it say if I get scammed by a rank I have to pay everyone he scams show me you greedy fuck lol

 

[twistedtaco]

i showed proof of you saying hormone owes you money not me, thats because you were telling the truth then and are lying now, and i showed proof that the only reason you made this report is because your angry because you heard i might hire hormone again ...
ranks posted in this thread you knowing broke the rules and were responsible, your just dragging this out for no reason ,
Stop Bothering my clan, and please stop harrassing us, your banned and want nothing to do with you, move on with your life, good bye
Anyways mods can rule

 

He owes me money because he owed you money and you made me pay for it and now the debt is towards me not you anymore. Is that not what happened. And now you tell him if he wants to join dragondyce he doesn't have to pay his debts, he just has to pay you a ton of money. Even though his debt to me is originally his debt to you, you made me pay it. You do not even refund up to his max, you refunded nothing to your customers, you made me refund everything because I got caught in the scam

 

i don't really see the issue here, if i'm getting this correctly... a host had a max value they could hold, u knew that this host had a max value, but allowed him to go over it, thus giving him the opportunity to scam quit. the owners of said clan forced u to pay what the host scam quit, as long as this money was paid to the customers, i don't really see anything wrong with it

This has been an ongoing issue with Secnx and who he uses as cover. These ranks will have 100-500 dollar max bets and he's having them hold thousands. Thus incentivizing the ability to scam. He's actually paid to increase a ranks max of holding money and that rank scammed him as well. I want to say honestly he's put ddyce in this position 3-5x easily. Secnx is a great rank and works his ass off, but jesus he's a fucking moron sometimes. He does things without thinking and gets taken advantage of. That then spills into our laps and were left dealing with the mess. The rank he's complaining about hasnt even rebought back in or paid any fines. Ko was in the process of trying to get him to clear tabs and buy back in. Before we've even collected one penny of repayment he makes this thread. Most likely destroying any possibility of repayment..

 

Hattez is not talking about our case. i had no money with hormone, he scammed me, he is literally talking about different cases. Also every person I ever had money on in dragondyce, never scammed dragondyce. They left with my tab. He's saying whatever it takes to win the case and isn't even talking about our case lol. Also about ko trying to get him to rebuy back in to pay people back, I showed you the deleted messages about him trying to keep the money he's supposed to pay whoever got scammed for himself. They're both lying and working together lol. How am I supposed to know your rank is scamming in advance, it's not like I left a bunch of money with him for months and he didn't pay it. The scam happened the same day we never saw him again. Next thing you know I'm made to pay everything he scammed twists customers because I caused him to scam??????

 

sorry for my lack of response.
- there are so many posts on this thread that don't have any relevant information, not to include the deleted ones that the majority of yal cant see. In one post i need the following from both parties -
1. What was the rank's maximum holding power
2. Did secnx/clan owners allow this rank to go over his holding power ultimately resulting in a scam quit? ex. did the rank have a holding power of 1.5k and hold it over a period of time for no reason, giving him time to collect more $? if so please provide full screen shots with the dates enabled
3. Is the holding power and or current tabs of ranks public information or is it only visible to owners, if so, did the rank hold an amount over his holding power over a period of time that owners could have noticed derank him until the tab was cleared?

Also i'm not saying it was perfectly fine for ddyce to ask secnx for the money, but if secnx paid without hesitation, i feel that he felt guilty a little bit to not fight back and pay it. But if it's true that secnx allowed the rank to hold over his holding power over a period of time for no reason at all, and give the rank time to collect more $, than it's unfortunately sort secnx's fault. though once i gather all of the req'd information to make a decision, i'll ask some of the fellow higher nerds here in the realm of sythe to get a more general consensus. ty all for your time and god bless




trump

 

1. The ranks maximum holding power is 3000$ for platinum dragon rank not 1500 mb.
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This is where the scammer scammed 1300$ and where I was involved with him. He was holding the customers money and told me that he cannot host the bet or he will be over his max.

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This is the amount the scammer owed me the day after scamming the bet. We did not know of the other three customers he had scammed as well for me to include in the tab. This screenshot is the day after I was involved, not weeks later. 1635$ represents the 1300$ he was holding for the customer, plus his side of the loss. Twisted taco made me pay this for him hence why I said "I covered everything for both of us". The tabs on the side is what I got scammed for, way less then his 3000$. Twisted taco made me pay the 1635$ and then the 1660$ afterwards.
3. The max a person is aloud to owe is made public, but you do not know who a person might owe aside from yourself.
4. In dragondyce it's twisted taco's rules or you lose your rank. Your rank costs thousands of dollars. People are in fear to speak for the sake of losing a rank that in my case was 11,000$. So you have a choice of "follow what I say or get out" is his favorite line when hosts disobey. Imagine telling a mexican cartel leader you're going to the police (sythe) to tell them what you are doing.

 

[twistedtaco]

in his own words 'he covered everything for both of them'

Hormone states he is over his max, This screenshot clearly shows Secnx being told its over my max and hormone asking him to post it under his name ... this screenshot right here is secnx telling everyone in this thread that he's to blame for going thru with this

Now if you want screenshots / more evidence from me, this was over a year ago, at the time secnx knew he was at fault and paid the scam without hesitation, now im expected to try to find any of this when parties involved have been banned from our discord, there was no reason to hold onto any of this, and secnx knows that, Now the supposed evidence above that secnx has just posted , doesnt help his case at all he's just pulling at strings in hope something sticks

SECNX KNEW HE WAS AT FAULT
AND the only reason he created this thread, is because he said it himself, was mad i was thinking about rehiring hormone

 

[twistedtaco]

1. The ranks maximum holding power is 3000$ for platinum dragon rank not 1500 mb.
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This is where the scammer scammed 1300$ and where I was involved with him. He was holding the customers money and told me that he cannot host the bet or he will be over his max.

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This is the amount the scammer owed me the day after scamming the bet. We did not know of the other three customers he had scammed as well for me to include in the tab. 1635$ represents the 1300$ he was holding for the customer, plus his side of the loss. Twisted taco made me pay this for him hence why I said "I covered everything for both of us". The tabs on the side is what I got scammed for, way less then his 3000$. Twisted taco made me pay the 1635$ and then the 1660$ afterwards.
3. The max a person is aloud to owe is made public, but you do not know who a person might owe aside from yourself.
4. In dragondyce it's twisted taco's rules or you lose your rank. Your rank costs thousands of dollars. People are in fear to speak for the sake of losing a rank that in my case was 11,000$. So you have a choice of "follow what I say or get out" is his favorite line when hosts disobey. Imagine telling a mexican cartel leader you're going to the police (sythe) to tell them what you are doing.

if you read number 3. he says 'but you do not know who a person might owe aside from yourself'
him saying this shows he was at fault, he knew Hormone was over his maxed, HE TOLD HIM,
As far as number 4 goes, he is correct, it is my clan and i do make the rules, which he broke and was responsible to pay, which he did in fact pay without hesitation a year ago.

he admitted to me the day he created this sythe report in discord dm's that the only reason he made the report was, because he was angry that he thought i was going to rehire the guy, i never did hire the guy ...

thats all the evidence i have, because this took place a year ago or longer and at the time there was no issue or dispute, secnx was clearly at fault, all the ranks know he was at fault, and secnx never raised any issue about it until now. I have no more evidence because i had no reason to log any at the time. But i proved just from what secnx has posted in this thread that he's a liar and was at fault

And as you can see in the screenshot below , Secnx was questioning hormone, hormone clearly stated he is over his max, and secnx decided to allow himself to get pressured as you can clearly see hormone telling him to hurry multiple times, and secnx messed up and went along with it ... He was responsible since day 1, he paid it because he was at fault and he clearly stated that the only reason he made this resport is because he was angry about a rumor that i was going to rehire hormone again, which is really my business not his, but it never happened either way. He is owed nothing

And below is secnx pming hormone trying to get him to to pay him the money hormone owes him, his issue is with Hormone not me

 

I am angry you made me pay your scammers scams, held my 11,000$ rank hostage for a year, and I cracked when after making me pay for what you got scammed, you are now telling the scammer who scammed you who you told me to pay for his scams, to pay you the money he scammed me, which he originally scammed you in the first place and made me pay. How fucked up is that, you even deleted the messages of you saying you were planning this. How else do I hope to get my money back if you're telling the scammer to pay you instead of me? Screenshot - cf5f639e053f42353e9246511bc97ba9 - Gyazo Screenshot - 5efde0b79540b059a3ebf4e93679f8e3 - Gyazo