Does the fourth amendment apply in public schools.

[hybanks2000]

I was wondering if the fourth amendment, illegal search and seizure, apply in public schools. Can you refuse to be searched in school?

 

[PublicityFtF]

I know that some schools, at the beginning of the school year, require that you forfeit some of your rights, and this may be one. Checking your schools requirements would help.

 

[hybanks2000]

I know that some schools, at the beginning of the school year, require that you forfeit some of your rights, and this may be one. Checking your schools requirements would help.

Thanks. After reading a few more articles i realized how ass-backwards the laws for schools actually are.

 

[5th Dimension Being]

At my highschool, we do get searched and such. Usually only by a cop who comes every other day, but we have 2-3 on-campus security guards.
If you are caught on multiple occasions with "not-too-serious" items, you must sign a paper saying you can be strip searched without questions by a qualified officer.

 

[hybanks2000]

Yes apparently if there's "reasonable suspicion" they can legally search you. Unfortunately that's such a loose term and could mean alot.

 

[Feren Silver]

I was wondering if the fourth amendment, illegal search and seizure, apply in public schools. Can you refuse to be searched in school?

You can refuse, but.. you don't really have much of a choice. Here are some Supreme Court cases (not my work, found off a website, etc.).

New Jersey vs T. L. O. (1985)
Safford Unifed School District v Redding (2009)
Vernonia vs. Acton (1995)
Board of Education v Earls (2002)

 

[wtp]

Yes apparently if there's "reasonable suspicion" they can legally search you. Unfortunately that's such a loose term and could mean alot.

It generally means even if they have a slight suspicion they can search you. Like even if there's a one out of ten chance you have the thing you're looking for they can still search you.

 

[Plznate]

No bro. When that coppa tries to search you, kick him in the nutz and claim 4th amendment violation. That'll show him

 

[Xerxes1]

Private its is not valid public it might be diff idk

 

[toofatandcrazy]

if they bring the dogs your fudged in the ashtray lol

 

[waltrulz]

no, you surrendered that the moment you walked on campus, along with the first, second, fourth, sixth, and seventh.

 

[JDK]

At my highschool, we do get searched and such. Usually only by a cop who comes every other day, but we have 2-3 on-campus security guards.
If you are caught on multiple occasions with "not-too-serious" items, you must sign a paper saying you can be strip searched without questions by a qualified officer.

Are you serious? 2-3 on-campus security guards and a cop every other day? I'm assuming you live in America lol.

 

You have very little rights as a minor, especially when you're in school. Basically the school is allowed to violate your constitutional rights if they have the slightest feeling you're a "disruption and/or threat to the educational system". It's pathetic, but seeing as you can't vote politicians do not care.

 

[5th Dimension Being]

Yeah lol, I live in the almighty all-retarded America!
You only get searched if they think you have stolen property, weapons, drugs etc.