'Do not buy' RSN list

Not a bad idea considering how sketchy the names market has always been. I could see it being used as a quick check for the main name buyers/sellers before purchasing a name, but I don't think it should serve an official purpose like what Tmoe suggested. I agree with Milotic, it won't really matter to the average sythe user if the name was sniped or not. If they want the name, theyre going to go through with the trade. A list would be nice though, if only to serve as a reference point for the main name traders

 

It's a support from me. Like it was previously mentionned above, having that kind of list can't do no wrong to the name sales section. Sticky or not, it should be made available to the public eye.

Having a DNB name list will be helpful for everyone. Even though it will be tricky to put the blame on who sniped the name, when was it sniped, etc, atleast people will have a general idea of what happened to it and will be left with a choice; or they take the risk and keep pursuing the name sale, or they remove themselves from it to avoid any potential trouble.

I'd be happy to help maintain such a list if it were made.

That said, I'm always happy to help.

Such a role model daddy milo. I would also be willing to contribute, if there is a need.

OP: I always knew you would make the world a better place. Keep spreading your thoughts, we'll make it one day!

 

[Paper Shark]

Support, should be rather easy to setup and maintain and will deter name sniping and help the RSN market in general.

 

Support, should be rather easy to setup and maintain and will deter name sniping and help the RSN market in general.

Easy to setup and maintain? There are so many names traded that it'd be near impossible to keep up with. Not everybody uses Sythe. I find that players who do not use it at this point are sketched out by it, and wish to have no part in it. How would we know if an offsite player's name is sniped? No way to tell, and thus the thread is missing a great deal of valuable information.

 

Support, should be rather easy to setup and maintain and will deter name sniping and help the RSN market in general.

It won't be easy to maintain at all, which is why I think it's pointless to have it serve as any sort of official reference prior to buying or selling a name

 

Idea was suggested before here:
RSN'S BLACKLIST

 

[Paper Shark]

Easy to setup and maintain? There are so many names traded that it'd be near impossible to keep up with. Not everybody uses Sythe. I find that players who do not use it at this point are sketched out by it, and wish to have no part in it. How would we know if an offsite player's name is sniped? No way to tell, and thus the thread is missing a great deal of valuable information.

Off site isn't Sythes responsibility, if a user reports a name on here as being Sniped/Recovered with evidence then it can be added to the list.

 

"No support, it's impossible to tell if name has been resold or has already been exchanged to another person.

It just cos's more issue's than it worth tbh" ABM Jul 12, 2016 at 11:52 PM

 

I think a few people have overlooked the post I bumped this with and are just reading the main post. I took the original feedback onboard and suggetsed perhaps a thread where names with a bad or sketchy history could be posted, just to make people aware. There could be a way to note that history if sufficient proof is provided, e.g.:

'Rarename123' - Recovered once sold.
'RareRSN' - Sniped x 2 (link to proof)

 

I see no reason for this not to be something, it'd help people be safe when buying names, less likely for people to get scammed, support.

As long as there's viable proof that the name can be scammed/recovered or whatever I think this would be good.

 

[Pendulum]

While there are several beneficial factors to having a "Do not buy" thread, there is also a downside.

To begin, we would need to define what a sniped name is exactly, and how someone is caught for it. To my knowledge, there isn't much you can go on besides the current owner literally saying "I sniped the name".

You can go about it logically and see when the name was for sale, when it was sold, and when it was transferred. This would make the current name holder the prime suspect for name sniping, however, that is assuming they knew of the deal in the first place. This is the most compelling counter argument to a list like this.

With the way most names are sold, only people who inquire about them *should* know about the deal. That means it is entirely possible for a legit outsider to unknowingly purchase a sniped name, yet, they would inherit the punishment / accusations even when they had nothing to do with the sniping.

On the other hand;

Purchasing a sniped name is in theory the same as buying stolen goods. It creates a marketplace for people who do this, thus perpetuating the problem. I agree with what @Tmoe said, if a name is purchased legitimately, they should have no problem showing proof. But not all people are aware that this is a problem, which is were false positives would start to accumulate.

Names sales are possibly the most dynamic market on this website, there is so much ambiguity its almost impossible to police it.

 

[Xprod]

Doesnt matter. Had a name sniped and a guy said he'll buy it to fuck with me xD. He said as long as he has proof of purchase, hes clean and thats true. Sad to see this happen.

 

Doesnt matter. Had a name sniped and a guy said he'll buy it to fuck with me xD. He said as long as he has proof of purchase, hes clean and thats true. Sad to see this happen.

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[Xprod]

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[Maxthedream]

Maybe we could one day go with all people to all scammers house and tell them to either refund or get the cops called on them and talk with there parents and hopefully they will be reasonable and get a refund done

 

[veichleproblem]

I duno bro, how would know if someone isn't messing with the name and making it all fuzzy w massive amount of false scam reports.

 

[Crystal]

No thanks, this punishes innocent Sythe users who are trying to buy/sell names. Most of the rarest names have a lot of history attached to them and it's unrealistic & unfair to expect anyone to know the entire history of the name they have. Names transfer between people so often that this is just not a viable idea. Not to mention Jagex themselves are pretty happy to re-release names seemingly at random & during name releases, effectively wiping any history attached to them.

If anyone remembers that old sticky in name sales which had that list of commonly sought after names (pretty sure it was just at the top of one of the old LF name threads), they will know first hand how inaccurate the list was and based almost entirely on speculation.

A Do Not Buy list only harms the businesses in the name market and annoys users trying to buy that one RSN they have always wanted. I can agree with the whole motive behind this suggestion which is to try and deter sniping but I agree with Milotic that newcomers are going to ignore Sythe rules if doing so gets them their dream name, so there will always be a demand for sniped names meaning that name sniping will not be deterred by this.

 

[Lozz]

Honestly, most names in circulation have been sniped at one point in time. If you're putting sniped names on a 'do not buy' list you're eliminating 90% of the names market lol.

 

No thanks, this punishes innocent Sythe users who are trying to buy/sell names. Most of the rarest names have a lot of history attached to them and it's unrealistic & unfair to expect anyone to know the entire history of the name they have. Names transfer between people so often that this is just not a viable idea. Not to mention Jagex themselves are pretty happy to re-release names seemingly at random & during name releases, effectively wiping any history attached to them.

If anyone remembers that old sticky in name sales which had that list of commonly sought after names (pretty sure it was just at the top of one of the old LF name threads), they will know first hand how inaccurate the list was and based almost entirely on speculation.

A Do Not Buy list only harms the businesses in the name market and annoys users trying to buy that one RSN they have always wanted. I can agree with the whole motive behind this suggestion which is to try and deter sniping but I agree with Milotic that newcomers are going to ignore Sythe rules if doing so gets them their dream name, so there will always be a demand for sniped names meaning that name sniping will not be deterred by this.

Honestly, most names in circulation have been sniped at one point in time. If you're putting sniped names on a 'do not buy' list you're eliminating 90% of the names market lol.

I think a few people have overlooked the post I bumped this with and are just reading the main post. I took the original feedback onboard and suggetsed perhaps a thread where names with a bad or sketchy history could be posted, just to make people aware. There could be a way to note that history if sufficient proof is provided, e.g.:

'Rarename123' - Recovered once sold.
'RareRSN' - Sniped x 2 (link to proof)

OP should edit the title, but this ^ is more what he meant.

I wouldn't call it a "Do Not Buy" list, but more like a "Trade with caution" list. It goes without saying that a lot of the best names have been sniped or have a bad history behind them. That list would be there as information purposes only in order to describe, the more accurately as possible, what happened to a said name before someone decide to buy it.

I have to agree with @Crystal though, RuneScape moderators sometime monitor Sythe so naturally, the name sales section is targetted. I'm not sure how often they do, but if they see a name on the list that has been sniped, rwted, etc. too many times, they might just ban the name all of the sudden or even release the it from the current owner. We can't know for sure what they would do, but exposing a name is always risky, especially if it's on the market at that time.

 

[Lozz]

OP should edit the title, but this ^ is more what he meant.

I wouldn't call it a "Do Not Buy" list, but more like a "Trade with caution" list. It goes without saying that a lot of the best names have been sniped or have a bad history behind them. That list would be there as information purposes only in order to describe, the more accurately as possible, what happened to a said name before someone decide to buy it.

I have to agree with @Crystal though, RuneScape moderators sometime monitor Sythe so naturally, the name sales section is targetted. I'm not sure how often they do, but if they see a name on the list that has been sniped, rwted, etc. too many times, they might just ban the name all of the sudden or even release the it from the current owner. We can't know for sure what they would do, but exposing a name is always risky, especially if it's on the market at that time.

There was one before I remember it well, my names were on it with wrong information and some of them were listed as 'scammer' despite me obtaining them legitimately, had to sit and explain myself to get the name list re-adjusted. Tracking when names change hands too just encourages sniping too cus people will see names moving/being sniped and people will use this to gauge whether or not a name is being sold atm or has a good change of moving.

I don't change my statement btw, putting names on a TWC list will be 90% of the names market. Just because an owner before fucked around with a name doesn't mean the current owner will, names move too much for them to be monitored accurately and its bs that somebody has to sit and explain themselves if they done nothing wrong and the name is safe currently. If the name was sniped 9 times previously but is owned by a reputable person now, why should the current owner get all of this doubt put onto them by potential buyers. Yh theres obv names that are owned by people that r public knowledge to be owned by a scammer but these names don't stay with them forever lol