Dispute against a donation rank

Now I understand the title of my thread may seem a little misleading, however I have spoken to a moderator from your forum (I wont mention who, as I don't believe that should be relevant unless kept private) and they have also informed me to do this as it seems out of place all together.

Scammer's profile link: Maldesto
Explanation of the trade: As said below, this is a $100 donor rank, which I would like to be refunded as I have been banned based on how one may feel about each other.
How they scammed: not quite a scam, but it's along them lines, a $100 donor rank that I have not
Proof that it's their Skype: N/A
Skype profile ID & conversation pictures: N/A
Other relevant trade screenshots: N/A

So to get this started I wont post the full thing as I feel some stuff should be left private unless staff would like to hear my part in private, or he decides to try making it all one way.

So for some time at least to my knowing, I have had problems with Mald - Sometimes he is "ok" to speak with and other times he is extremely rude/aggressive and not really any fun to be around. Whenever he is mainly nice for example when I spoke to him about an order he wanted completed (this is why I had my donation rank added, so I didn't have to keep renewing VIP) so i'm not sure if that was just a one off moment where he decided to be polite/have a joke with me or what.

Now moving on from that, so I was originally under the impression that if I had VIP for 1 month, I would receive my verified rank(s) this wasn't the case, so after some time after losing my verified pip I decided to buy the $100 donation instead of keep buying VIP and reapplying for it etc, as it both saves money in the long run along with time on applications. I paid $40 from my paypal account and $60 vouchers which I bought via RSGP at a higher price than it is right now, this being said of course I gained all 3 verified ranks (verified middleman, verified transactor, verified servicer)

For some time at least as of late, himself and what was at the time a close friend called NoahTheWisewolf had been having some issues in their relationship towards each other, and us 3 being what I thought was quite/very close friends we had each other on Facebook. I didn't see the need to be caught in the crosshairs of this so like anyone else would I removed the person I am more in contact with (as Noah is quite inactive on the forums) as they could easily reach me either on Facebook or Skype or even on the forums anywhere, however this wasn't the case, as we have been having issues also.

I spoke openly to another friend about these problems, and he agreed with me at the time - Mald found out about us "speaking in private about him" and decided to what I would say blackmail/manipulate this friend of mine/ours into sharing our private conversation which I had no issue with and I was of course punished for this, instead of telling my friend the real story behind why I defriended him and he took a major offence to it he decided to make a lie up about his personal life (this is why I said if staff want to talk in private i'm happy to discuss there) which of course this friend told me about whilst we was arguing over the fact of all of this mess.

So months later, nothing is still the same from him/Noah, other than say this order process where he spoke to me quite nicely, our forum relationship shouldn't be caught up in the middle of our personal relationship and how we feel about each other which is what he doesn't understand, so if he has a problem with me he gives me warning points or bans me and so on (which I am happy to provide proof of this as well) and since the weekend we have recently had another argument/bicker if you will in which resulted to me telling him "to stop being a stupid prick, and to start being a community admin instead of causing wars with people" - I understand that may have been a silly way of putting things or so on, but then for him to come back with a 1 month ban followed by this - Gyazo - 07b4e200564e51d67499958ca4784cef.png - May I add, this argument sparked off because I was lured by a apparent friend "fletchingNL" on seasonal deadman mode around a week and a half ago, which he has since scammed someone else as well and I put a comment basically saying that no one believe that he scammed me, in which he basically replied "no one cared"....

As a community admin or a role model figure of such, you shouldn't be making snide remarks like that, and with that being said I took it upon myself to mention that he was kicking/threatening to ban people from the OSbot chat box for "not giving him a bond" (maybe he was joking, well seemingly he was but who knows) which in the end he got one, and the following day from what I recall was asking for gold or something along them lines, which again I mentioned he has since hid the thread which you can see was in my 1 month ban reason.

Now before he tries to make out something more than it is, I put my hands up and admit I have spoken to third parties about my banning and tried to get some form of contact to basically see what is really up with him, as it seems he has been extremely stressed for whatever reason as of late and has started to bring his aggression onto the forums, which isn't good for business (I understand i'm a complete prick on the forums myself sometimes too), and being someone who is in a similar life to himself I can relate to some of the stuff he possibly is feeling/going through, which is why I understand that he has lashed out and banned me.

This has however made me come to the realisation that although a couple of weeks ago he told me on Skype he didn't want me leaving OSbot (i was taking a few days break or so on, as I needed to chill out instead of get myself worked up/upset in real life over forum related stuff) he has now banned me upon the same principle of some sort. If I am not able to return to OSbot, if it be in a month when my original ban was going to be expired and myself & him just stay clear of eachother then I would like my donation rank back as the sole purpose of it was to save conflict of me having to apply for my verified ranks 50 thousand times.

Thank you for reading, and any further information on my side as I say I will happily share in private with staff, I am not going to hide anything but I felt that putting it all here would just be a stupid move on both my own behalf and for him as our private lives are our private lives for a reason and the forums is somewhere we break away from it all and shouldn't continue the bs there.



Edit - Please also take into note, I have multiple users who have also had/are having problems with him, in both money situations and the way he is being similar to myself and they are going to be in the same boat if their names are mentioned. If staff need to see chat logs or anything like that, of stuff that has gone on I will happily provide that as well.

 

@Maldesto could you please explain your side on this?

 

I'm at work at the moment won't be home for 14 hours, but he broke osbot's rules and was banned. He was using offensive language on his 2nd page of warnings for breaking rules, I suspended him for a month for calling me a stupid prick.

My wife gets home from work and he had messaged my wife's Facebook talking shit about me asking if we are having problems with our marriage and our new born son. I went ahead and asked the developers at osbot too what I should do as he is messaging my wife on facebook. They considered that a bit to far of harassment so they told me to ip ban him.

He wants a refund for a rank purchased months ago and he broke the rules to get himself banned by harassing me and messaging my wife. I can provide the messages to an admin via pm if needed.

Dbuffed and I don't get along, i never banned him permanently because he didn't deserve it. I think harassing me and my wife on facebook is enough to warrant that. Mind you Dbuffed has been blocked on my Facebook for over 6 months

 

First things first may I apologise for posting like this as I am on phone (it's 5;32) and moving on from that how did I know mald would say all that? Now mald I didn't want to take up your personal vendetta with me starting from you claiming to "block me" after your incident with Noah, your words to a friend was you blocked me to "stop me stalking you and so I can't nonce pics of your son" which for someone living in the uk and you in the us thsy a bit hard to do such a thing and being someone with kids myself yeah.... Now I fully admitted to reachif out to a third party which was because I had to. Nowhere in the message did I say what you are claiming though, I asked about you specifically and kept to the fact of you thinking I'm somehow going to molest your son which is gross of anyone to think. You have given me pointless warnings that you decided to mention not other staff just you, even for stuff that is correct or I post myself and report for removal... I admitted to calling you a prick as well, feel free to show them and I quote - " stop being a stupid prick and start being a community admin instead of causing wars " or along them lines which was after you yet a per normal with our personal non forum related issues decide to try be cocky and stupid towards me. Now you see you have moved the way you have a few times now, something doesn't go your way and you ip ban the person....

 

Now as my post from my phone has not been added, 1) I was magically "blocked" because I deleted you and not Noah 2) You told another member of the community I was harrasing/stalking your wife and you + going to molester you son then also, if so why wasn't I banned back then? 3) The warnings you mention are ALL from you and your attempts to justify your feelings against me out of nowhere on the forums instead of keeping it personal and private. 4) I knew you would say all of this and I even forwarded it to the staff dealing with this (i kept our names out for privacy reasons), now when it comes to it contacting a third party for the first time ever isn't harrasing/stalking which i also admittingly said already that i messaged someone off my own terms. Have myself and her spoke before? No, is it stalking? No, you are just picking at straws because i spoke up against you like you always do. If you read the message it was all containing my concern for your own well being as you act so poorly as a community admin as of late, i mentioned you are possibly under stress to your new additon and he was not mentioned anything other than that. Now why did I get in contact you may ask, because your actions are both uncalled for and not reasonable as you do not talk to people unless its something you want to hear or that benefits you. Sorry for not breaking this up, mald try to be less obvious i am typing from ps4 btw.

 

And as for the rest asking about your relationship, no i said you are far too paranoid, but nice try there any more false information?

 

So upon further reading on stuff and looking through everything, I would just like to clear some very simple things up -

1) Mald claims I have been "harassing" them both, and example would be - subject to aggressive pressure or intimidation.

Have I been aggressive, pressured anyone or intimidated anyone? No I haven't, I was not violent when I contacted the third party nor actually expecting the person to reply (which luckily they didn't) so in fact there is no real claim for harassment.

2) Again I have "harassed" him somewhere? is there anything showing this or him just claiming it? because above he claims I have been blocked on Facebook by him.

Yes, he has already cleared it up 6 months ago or something he blocked me on Facebook - May I also add our children were born not long from each other, and I was doing a Runescape questing service for him which delayed me to get online when my wife went into labour - This is what he had to say Gyazo - e067be5d4428cb9ce8c030c2cc4eba3c.png - Since when is "are you sure the baby is yours?" a question to ask an apparent friend who just went through 48 hours of labour with his wife?

3) I will go back to what I said before, he seems to act differently when he is getting something out of it that benefits him in 1 shape or form.

Why am I claiming this? if you read that snippet, it actually shows something about questing, which I was obtaining "barrows gloves" for him which I also did complete.

4) Now to address his whole thing with me involving his wife and child, I asked about him as a person I didn't question their marriage or their life style of any sort. I simply threw a few things in the direction of how he deals with things, such as questioning if he is under stress as again as mentioned above, a new born child is very stressful and I know full well myself.

What did I say exactly? - And I quote "I do not know if he is just letting a paranoid state get to him or there are problems going on with you two as I understand you have had a baby not too long ago."

He could take this as a negative sure, as I said I understand the pair of them have had a baby which is stressful work, and that's exactly what I referred to and he knows that himself but is trying to make it out more than that. I was not rude in the ONE message I sent this person in subject, meaning it's not anything along the lines of harassment or anything like that, me just simply enquiring his behaviour as a whole to ensure both mine and his best interests.

Again - Even at the bottom, I thanked the person in advance if they got round to reading my message, even if there was going to be no response (which I thought anyway) - And I quote "I didn't want to message you but I felt there is not really any other choice as I feel that he is taking things far too serious and it needs to stop, thank you for reading this when you do."

@Excelont I hope that explains a bit more and sheds some light to how I am currently seeing this, quite sad if i'm honest that we couldn't have a mature outcome to this and that it has had to slip everywhere, may I also add there have been some other members via OSbot asking why I am banned and sharing both their opinions and "what side they want to take" which I have not accepted and I have told them to not do such things. I don't blame him for the 1 month ban if he feels that justifies how he feels then we leave it as that and we just avoid each other on the forums from then further more - Either way this is just my two cents on the stuff and you have the full chat (without names being shown) of what I sent over.

This is going to be my only post for now thanks in advance @Excelont

 

Any update @Excelont ?

 

I;ve been trying to get into contact with maldesto via powerbot.

Havent had any luck yet

 

I haven't used powerbot in 5 years + and I am the admin of OSBOT, it's in my signature.

What do you need a response from me for? He broke the osbot rules and got banned for it. He has since mass advertised another bot on his skype, which he got a majority of his skype contacts from OSBOT as he held on of the biggest services there. He will not be unbanned, and he will not be refunded for a payment made in February. He went on facebook and contacted my wife, after talking to the developers at OSBot + owner, he will not be unbanned.

I gave my response, we have rules and a TOS for a reason.

 

Meant osbot sorry get them confused.

Well @Dbuffed i tried sorry bud.

 

Please add this to my thread, posting again at 5;16 lol. @mald you have been clearly told my reasons behind contacting your wife which was not harassment or anything else that you claim, you made so many false claims which are far from true but that was expected from you as always as that's what you do on osbot. As for me advertising another bot yes I have which isn't illegal as I am not a product of yours alone and it is a free market so you can't use that against me either, nice try though pleas look further into this as it seems there is just going to be more lies @excelot

 

@Dbuffed I did as much as i could.

Maldesto has shown me some chats with him and other staff regarding you.

Is was a ban which osbot warrants.

Closed.