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Disprove Creationism/Religion!!!

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Basically I have been brought up in Alabama, the Bible belt. I can't even mention atheism without being chastised by everyone. Basically I want everyone to give there opinion on this and PLEASE give detailed reasons why and/or a link to an article or website of somesort supporting your point.

I want to possibly compile the data I get into a paper of some sort. The more solid evidence I have the more I can defend myself when the subject is brought up. In the past I have not had enough facts to support my point.

Examples of what to talk about
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1.Age of the EARTH<~~~a big one(christians generally think 6000yrs...)
a.Continental drift
b.Carbon dating
c.Uranium decay
2.Religion created as a false hope
a.crusades
b.What about people never hearing the word. Is it fair that they burn in hell with Hitler?
c.How is it that a religion as young as Christianity is the only correct one? All others are false and send you to hell. How is that?





These are just a few points to discuss off the top of my head. I will add more as I come across them. If you think of any let me know.
 
You can not prove the existance of god, you can not prove he doesn't exist. There is nothing to disprove.
 
Perhaps not "prove", rather state your thoughts.
 
Thanks. I'll get to reading it right away.
 
jebckr said:
Thanks. I'll get to reading it right away.
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It's quite long, and only deals with Christianity but it is really good. I'm from the Bible Belt as well, Arkansas to be exact, so Christianity is the only religion that I ever come into contact with, so the same is probably true for you as well. It's more of a logical essay rather than scientific, so don't expect many evidential arguments as most aren't air-tight anyway.
 
I'll leave this thread open as our current "God" thread.

Absolutely NO flaming, etc., or I shall lock this.

I shall contribute my opinions at a later time, when I am less tired.
 
Science has too many indefinite ideologies and conjectures, and since nothing in the scientific universe can legitimately assert the absoluteness of a given subject that requires a sort of omniscient equilibrium (such as the existence of space time, whether you believe its a perception of existence or an actual dimension is a completely different discussion), you can't define time and space without an omniscient being.
That's why we have God.
 
Because time streams do not magically appear.
If that is implied, science has yet to discover it.
But... If absolutely necessary....
shredderbeam2 said:
Why can we not define time and space without an omniscient being?
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Go for it.
 
Xelex said:
Because time streams do not magically appear.
If that is implied, science has yet to discover it.
But... If absolutely necessary....

Go for it.
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We're not talking about the origin of time and space when we define it, just how it is. God is not involved in how it is, is he?

Also, just because we do not know every secret of the universe at this point does not mean that we cop out completely, and attribute it all to God.
 
Xelex said:
Science has too many indefinite ideologies and conjectures, and since nothing in the scientific universe can legitimately assert the absoluteness of a given subject that requires a sort of omniscient equilibrium (such as the existence of space time, whether you believe its a perception of existence or an actual dimension is a completely different discussion), you can't define time and space without an omniscient being.
That's why we have God.
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so god is a scapegoat for our inadequacies?
from what i can tell, you are saying "science doesnt have an answer for everything, so ill make up an answer for everything.
your wording of the last sentence portrays your views of god, specifically "we have god" obviously shows that you yourself believe him only to be a fictional character made up to make you feel better.

Xelex said:
Because time streams do not magically appear.
If that is implied, science has yet to discover it.
But... If absolutely necessary....

Go for it.
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time streams dont magically appear, but gods do?
you take one improbable situation and replace it with another that is hundreds, if not thousands of times more improbably.
 
THe subject is changing now but, I read that article and ummm... well I could answer all of those question with out a second blink. It is a good article and I dont really believe in good, but those question goo dbe answered by my 12 year old brother... If you want answers to all the questions he asked in the article I will post if nessecary.
 
jebckr said:
The more solid evidence I have the more I can disprove the ignorant people who I try to argue with. In the past I have not had enough facts to support my point.
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Like Slave said, you cannot disprove God. Nor can you prove the existence of God.

However, generalizing, and referring to people as ''ignorant'' is somewhat childish. People aren't ignorant for holding beliefs.

People who actually strive to ridicule those who are religious are extremely pathetic. Don't call people ignorant.
 
jaamal said:
THe subject is changing now but, I read that article and ummm... well I could answer all of those question with out a second blink. It is a good article and I dont really believe in good, but those question goo dbe answered by my 12 year old brother... If you want answers to all the questions he asked in the article I will post if nessecary.
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I don't mean for you do answer them rather to discuss your thoughts one way or the other.

On a side note I reworded the original post saying "disprove ignorant people". I said that in haste and am more or less trying to have an argument for myself. It's not like I go around trying to tell people what they think about religion is wrong and they are stupid. I respect people's opinions...
 
God/religion is a means of mental comfort. It kept stability at one point and was used to explain the MANY things we did not know (how we were created, who was first, why did it happen, etc), and also as a set of moral standards.

But now religion is outdated. Not knowing one thing(such as the universe), doesn't justify the existence of another (God). There are many, many more examples.
Morality isn't defined by the bible. It is simply the way that you think life should be lived.

I choose not to meander around millions of different ideas and thoughts of how everything happened, and to not waste time on things that we will most likely never know.
 
Sorry unintelligent nub. The bible didn't say nothing about the Earth being 6000 years old. I love it when silly atheist say idiotic things.
 
Whispers said:
Sorry unintelligent nub. The bible didn't say nothing about the Earth being 6000 years old. I love it when silly atheist say idiotic things.
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Religious fundamentalists add up the ages of everybody in the Bible to reach that number. It doesn't specifically state it, but it sure as hell implies it.
 
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I find it scarcely necessary to disprove what has never been proven.
 
Whispers said:
Sorry unintelligent nub. The bible didn't say nothing about the Earth being 6000 years old. I love it when silly atheist say idiotic things.
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so whats your view on it? how old do you think the earth is? and the universe for that matter
 
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