Dimethyltryptamine

your brain produces dmt when your un heavy REM sleep.

pretty interesting subject but iv never tried it myself.

 

Ive wanted to try this for a long time.. a good movie about it is "DMT - The Spirit Molecule"

 

I know this sounds bad, but isn't DMT in Salvia. I use to smoke that, and in an instant, I'd experience OBE (Outta body experiences), and see stuff. That might be that stuff. I know the Salvia stuff comes from Southern Mexico and Indians use to smoke or brew it, and believe it was the spirits that made them experience the trips.

 

Ironically, DMT is likely the cause of the "I died and went to heaven before being resuscitated” stories.

So, no, I don't believe any chemical proves that your evil book of ancient magic is true.

 

You are quite self-contradictory. You are claiming that since heaven is a scientifically described chemical, the Bible/Qur'an is true.
While DMT could be the scientific explanation for many religious experiences, it does not change the fact that humans are chemical beings and that in the end, all you are experiencing is chemistry

 

Ah, person above me, you do not have knowledge into what I am talking about, and I do blame myself for not describing it. However, a person that does not believe in a higher power may remain adamant to the fact we are chemistry. And I do believe that we are chemistry. I also believe that you have never taken the drug for yourself, therefore you wouldn't understands my thought process, as the experience is ineffable.

I am strong to believe in a very loose fate, and I believe everything can be scientifically proven, even dimethyltryptamine's "soul"-giver property, however I also do believe that religion can be a belief that has scientific isolation as long as it is not pushed amongst the masses or upon one's ownself in an illogical manner.

Also this is not a religious debate, I would just like to understand why if anyone knows much about the molecule. As previously stated, i have done much "experimenting" and actual research on DMT, and any debate that would erupt would definitely open some sort of understanding.

In religious scripture, there is a period in which you are taken out of your body, and your soul or "r'uh" is extracted by a sentient being of sorts.

No one has provided me with an explanation about how certain religious scripture could so accurately depict or detail the months of how a "soul" is put into the soul.

 

Well there isn't much to argue if this isn't about religion. There isn't much about DMT to debate. We know it exists. We know its chemical structures. We know what it does to a significant enough degree to not have much to argue, only discover. The only point you appear to be bringing up is a moderately ambiguous point regarding god. If this is not related to god, do not bring him up in the first place to avoid confusion.

 

In my beginning post in the thread, the question was about god...

In essence, it was my religious "enlightenment".
Explanations, etc

 

easy enough to buy anywhere.

 

lol where's the fun in just buying it?

 

to take ofcourse

 

Well I have trouble reading walls of text, so what I got from the OP is that you took the scientific explanation for the soul, combined it with religious scriptures, and instead of following the logical conclusion - Seeing that the religion, which has little to no evidence, is affected by science, you instead give the equivalent of

 

For those who are actually wondering more about the drug I can provide more specifics having used it personally. There are plants that grow all over the world that you can use to make it, but I won't go into making it because that's describing how to make a schedule 3 (methamphetamines in canada) drug.

This is not a methamphetamine, nor does it have any recorded long term effects or addiction of any sorts. As with most other psychedelics you can't overdose on it assuming that you are using DMT and it was created properly. This is the MOST intense psychedelic drug you can get, when I say you literally leave this world you do.

It takes about 45 seconds or so after you smoke it (in a glass pipe) for the effect to occur and it lasts about 15 minutes. In this time you probably want to sit down somewhere or lay down as you will lose control of your body. Much like a dream a few minutes after it ends you will have difficulty remembering what happened, and after a few days you can easily completely lose the memory of what occurred.

Its the harshest smoke you will probably ever inhale it is like inhaling liquid plastic (except without the severe burning). Its a crystal and it looks like such:



When you dream at night it is because you are tripping the hell out on this drug, it also occurs in MASSIVE doses when the fetus first grows a pineal gland and when you are about to die, and many people think that DMT is linked with conscientiousness.

 

It's understandable you didn't read it, I am just simply stating the coincidences that occur in religious scripture and scientific study of this drug and relating them.

Lol if you read into it it provides insight into some very coincidental results, and therefore gives reason for it to be a topic of discussion.

That is all I am implying

 

I've heard of someone trying DMT, and then living an entire thirty odd years in a completely different life. Only to snap back into reality and realize that a mere twenty minutes had passed. Is this possible?

 

I've tried a lot of psychedelics myself, but not this one. Definitely interested in DMT. I've heard some odd stories from those who've tried it.

Lol that's funny.. I've had trips from other psychs that seem to have lasted for weeks when it was only 5+ hours, but not 30 years o.o That would be an experience.

 

You seem to be suffering from a placebo effect. If you believe it has some sort of connection to religion, it does. You're tripping the fuck out when you take this stuff, so of course you're going to see some crazy, unexplained things. The only reason it had such a profound effect on your religious beliefs is because you probably came into it expecting some sort of enlightenment, and you were probably confused about religion, so your brain kind of put 2 and 2 together and you interpreted it as being connected to religion. I don't doubt your sincerity about your experience, but I think that the human mind is highly susceptible to delusion even in a normal mindset, muchless when you're tripping the fuck out on pretty much the hardest psychedelic available.

 

I'd like to try it to be honest, but there's a few things that sketch me out.
- I don't think I'd like losing control of my body, that'd cause a panic
- Don't know where to buy it, don't trust myself to make it (just in case I fuck up and make something lethal, then kill myself lol)
- If I did buy it, it'd probably have to be off some sketchy motherfucker who's laced it with something...Bad experiences with that. Bought some china bud off some kid downtown and turns out it had cocaine in it. Explains the 7 dollar hike for 1.5gs >_< Don't know anyone who sells anything other than LSD, coke, weed, shrooms, and I could probably get some ragged-ass meth and heroin.

Eh I'll probably just end up sticking with my salvia :\ Cheap and legal.

 

The ancient schools of Yoga understood that DMT was produced inside of the Pineal glad, Not known by the chemical names founded by science... Through dedicated observation and meditation of one's self, the Yogis realized DMT could be secreted naturally in the brain through the activation and stimulation of the Pineal glad which is known as the Third Eye.

Basically, what this means is that through dedicated and prolonged meditation on the Pineal Gland, which is located in the center of the Forehead, which Buddhists proclaimed to be the seat of the soul, where upon the spirit enters into the fetus 49 days after conception within the womb.

It is the gate-way to the spiritual realm, and to be a master you are spending dedicated amounts of time stimulating the pineal gland through meditation. Eventually this leads to advanced Yogic Practices, where upon you gain detailed control of your entire body, and the subsequent benefit of reality follows... when you become the complete Master of yourself, which means absolute control over all desires, thoughts, mind and body alike, then you are also attaining mastery over your reality... you begin to reside in points beyond form.

Transcendental Meditation is a more novel technique which was taught by Maharishi through-out most of the 20th Century until his recent passing. It is by dissolving your consciousness into the unified field of creation that siddhic states of being are attained, meaning you begin to realize bliss consciousness where upon the entire living organism becomes saturated with the pulsation of the divine.... Which is a more integrated form of meditation which allows one to transcend the subtle layers of creation and attain mastery over illusion.

The DMT is a material substances which opens some of these doors, however through the dedication to Yoga these states may be attained to some degree without the need for external substance.... when used ceremonially, the DMT can be used as a way to invoke extremely high spiritual beings and understandings, so the advisable use of DMT is to set up a spiritual altar in a dark enclosed space or in nature when you are comfortable and alone and trusting your instincts..... This opens up the gate-way for very profound and enlightening beings to open you to new realms of perception. This is opening up the alternate realities, paralell universes, and greater perceptions into the spiritual world which is full of mystery, and within the attainment of ones consciousness through dedication to serious spiritual practice or understanding, and aided by medicines such as DMT.

The instant gratification of the consumerist culture lead to the production of DMT, because it became the desire of the western mind to crave instantaneous enlightenment, which appears to be congruent with the subsequent acceleration of Time cycles in creation, which is also correlating with 2012... One opinion...

Buddhist meditation is different than Transcendental meditation as it is not about the acquisition of Bliss, but rather the acquisition of profound spiritual states which are non-reactive and non-attached.... and in love for all being.

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I thought this was the start to the first thread on nomenclature on sythe