[DENIED] Remove TWC for non-home IP address on certain accounts.

I registered my Sythe account on a personal RDP server not only because I care about my online security but because my home IP address is dynamic so it changes frequently, unlike my RDP server which I will have for years.

I donated some dollars, gathered 10+ vouches, and then a couple of weeks later I still get put in TWC until I post a thread using a home IP address.

Okay, so I did. Like this guy: Home IP Address
He got his TWC removed, but I have to show my internet bill as well for some reason which is unfair:



This is a bit extreme for many reasons. Why doesn't EVERY member on a home IP address have to do this as well then? What's different, really? Now you're asking a user to completely forfeit their security just because they care about it.

What if I don't even have access to the internet bill because I don't pay for it but rather a friend or family member does? What sort of information do you expect the internet bill to reveal? Because as far as I know internet bills don't have IPv4 addresses listed on them, unless you want my full name and address which is definitely not happening. If it's for location, well, a digital receipt can easily be fabricated which makes the point moot.

Solution to this problem:
You should only put very fresh accounts without any vouches and posts on TWC. It should be removed for donors, especially if they pay with PayPal, and it should be automatically removed once you're registered for X number of days and/or make X number of posts because the entire point is to make sure the user is credible. Registering on a home IP address isn't the only way to make sure of that. Oh, and definitely don't ask users for private shit like their internet bill because that'll kill your userbase.

 

Nope. No support from me. My understanding is that a large reason of the requirement to post from your home IP is to prevent ban evasion, yeah? So according to your suggestion, a vader could donate and be in the clear.

Having to check an internet bill isn’t ideal, but it’s making the best of what we’ve got.

Did you try to work something out other than the bill thing before you posted here? Staff are usually pretty keen on helping to figure something out in situations like yours.

 

This is to protect the members of the site from serial scammers/ban evaders.

People used to get banned for not posting from their home IP so being allowed here with a removable TWC is already an extremely mild "punishment" compared to what it used to be.

No support.

 

Take it up with @Pendulum if you can't provide a bill for some reason. My guess is that you can probably just send in a heavily-edited bill that doesn't contain personal info.

There's no need for this to be a site-wide change though.

 

1. All of you are big donors and don't care about this because this issue because it doesn't affect your credibility as a new seller. You don't seem to care about your privacy and security either. And why aren't any of you on TWC then? I doubt any of you shared your internet bill. I did post on a home IP address too just like you. Why are we different?

2. If "the safety of onsite members is paramount", then why are you allowed to log into any account using a different IP address than the one it was created on without verification? Why aren't you forced to use 2FA? There's a higher chance that a high-rep member's non-2FA account gets hijacked and used to scam thousands. I bet out of the three of you, at least one of you doesn't use 2FA and/or you don't follow proper security measures for picking passwords.

3. All of you have ignored the fact that I did post from a home IP address, like the other guy who got his TWC removed after. How come he didn't have to share his internet bill but I do even though I'm more trusted?

4. All of you have also ignored the fact that internet bills can easily be fabricated, so what does showing an internet bill really prove if I could just download a public bill statement and modify it, or edit the HTML on my current one?

5. Two of you are echoing "the punishment used to be much harder so be happy" off each other as a form of justification to the current system, but just because it used to be even more absurd doesn't mean it isn't currently.

Also, there are other effective and less privacy-invasive systems you could implement to catch and deter potential scammers with a little programming effort. Although the current system is decent, it treats members like me too harshly and starts to ruin the user experience quality, and asking for internet bills is way out of line. No other forums does that.

Outside of the RuneScape sections, the forums is already barely active as is. I have referred 5 users myself and hope to see the other forum sections grow, but it won't with these kind of expectations from your users.

 

I have provided my ID, internet bill, and my apartment contract in the past to confirm who I am but I'm glad that you're assuming that you're the only person this has ever happened to.

You're acting like nobody on this site is taking any security measures and I'm not sure what this has to do with the original post, we're discussing home IP TWCs not account hijacking.

I don't know the exact procedure that the mods go through when it comes to verifying your home IP, but if you don't like how they do it stick with the TWC, they don't ask you for your information for no reason.

Give it a try and let me know how it goes.

If you don't like how it's done here there's plenty of other market forums, nobody is forcing you to use ours.

 

Woudln't support this, you're most likely vading a ban thats why you don't want information leaked.

This site is secure enough for my needs NOT to use TOR / VPN
Sythe gets hacked, all I lose is my account details.

 

@ABM they can check if internet provider match with his ip ?

What secuirty are you talking abaout =? Ddosing ? well you have dynamic ip so that shoudnt be problem if your ip ever gets leaked you shut off router and turn it on walla new IP [not whole just few digits but still].

˝ but because my home IP address is dynamic so it changes frequently, unlike my RDP server which I will have for years.˝ < and why does it matter if your ip changes =?

No support

 

No support. It's to prevent ban evaders and provide safety to the legit members.

 

No support, although the method isn't very effective as almost every company now provides dynamic IP's, it does still trap the occasional few vaders.

I also don't see the point in internet bills, most bills are paperless these days and are all electronic meaning you can literally buy fake templates for a few bucks or even get them for free