[Denied] Give ex-OMMs a funrank instead of a minirank

I never said I prioritised MMing service and I don't see why shouldn't I use OMM rank which was symbol of trust to attract customers. If you are on OMM list you don't need to bump your MMing thread that often to get customers, I focused more on offering assistance/help rather than completening trades, whenever I had time I was doing them.
I helped 2 applicants to get $550+ and $350+ trades which were the hardest to get to make OMM team bigger, however both got denied and gave up.
I'm fighting so hard because it's huge disrespect to people who sacrificed that huge amount of time for that prestigious role on forums.
OMM ranks were removed once already, when free trade was about to be removed and it was to prevent mass-scamming, now we were treatened like potential scammers without even risk of free-trade being removed. Every of us put huge effort into becoming OMM and we're talking about group of last 7 middlemen who stayed somewhat active, some more active, some less active but all of them were meeting the requirements to keep MMing.
Back to my services - 80% of my customers are not from sythe.
7 years after my promotion to OMM have passed, priorities in life changed, I got a fiance, I got a hobby, I got some health issues, I got my own business, time-gap for MMing is not as big as 7 years ago.
Other example you asked for is Hahanerd

 

A lot of people saying OMM just did it to make money from the fee's

For every 10 trades you were asked to MM, only 1 would be legit, many hours spent being brought into conversations on skype/discord/msn to MM and once you did the PM'S etc and they realised you were a real OMM, they would dissapear or come up with a excuse.

You could of made more money from picking flax

 

Another one of your examples is a user so inactive they still have Global Mod in their (ex-)OMM

No, the revenue im talking about is stated by Zuzel here

 

Im not sure if you realised it but between 2010 - promotion of HHN until today literally 10 years have passed. At the point when I was last time talking with HHN he was an active OMM and had no any other shop/service active, he was just appearing from time to time to MM.
Did you even complete single OMM application?

 

Gonna stroke my own wiener here and say that it was actually my idea to bring ex-staff ranks in. What you've said here is correct and I'm not sure why they changed it - funranks are supposed to be a reward for service or for something pretty major. A mod who is inactive or demoted "dishonorably" should not be rewarded for service, regardless of time spent. Do the right thing and step down if you have to, then get the rank. That's how it was designed, anyway. That's how an ex-OMM funrank should be designed too imo but the current staff sorta fucked that up by giving ex-mod to everyone.

 

Mini rank or fun rank, I just don't like what has been given to ex-OMM's at this stage along with the wording.

Seeing the term "Ex-OMM", from an outsider/newfag perspective, makes me think "Why is that guy no longer OMM? Did he do something wrong?".

The D Square also makes the rank look discount as fuck. I get it, the D Square was in the OMM rank to begin with (3 of them, actually) - why not have at least 1 in the ex-OMM rank? It's still a gimp consolation prize for getting what should/is viewed as a prestigious rank to obtain.

The absolutely painstaking application process has already been talked about by multiple ex-OMM in this thread. To see all that work and the achievement that resulted from that work get completely devalued is just really sad. I understand why a change was needed - no consistent HMM to keep things on the straight and narrow, availability by some of the OMM community possibly being questionable, whatever...no matter what the problems with the rank were, ex-OMM have gotten a raw deal.

 

Why would I apply, I mm not to promote my business but to promote safe trading, I don't need a rank to tell me I can middleman nor do I need it to tell me I'm trusted.

The fact that it was a gatekeeperd cool kids club that only got people accepted before my time on sythe. (1.5 years most of you say it took years to get but some of the most active OMM's didn't get awarded this rank despite their high trust and activity) To give more credit to a group that didn't allow such users into their cool kids club is just further spitting in their face. You got to benefit from OMM while they sat with 6 month long pending applications that got denied because you got denied your first application. Cut the bullshit and accept that this isn't as disrespectful as your reasoning behind getting OMM and boosting your sales.

 

There isn't really a good way to hash it - a funrank is probably the best outcome. Change the wording to "retired OMM" and your issue is solved.

 

People using lack of activity towards the latter end of an OMM's tenure is quite a redundant statement, with respect to the scope of, 'are the entitled to a fun-rank as a reward/gesture of goodwill'.

Ultimately, if the OMM's retained their ranks, and were not demoted at the end of their tenure, then by our own Sythe.org rules, and OMM rules and standards, they maintained whatever was needed to retain said rank since they first acquired it. It's unfair to place eligibility of a reward based on what we currently think should have been done, opposed to the official rules and standards at that time.

Whether or not the rules and standards in place were adequate is an irrelevant point. For all intents and purposes, the OMM's followed what was asked of them, and that's that matters at the end of the day.

In my personal opinion, there is no harm giving a non-misleading fun-rank to the retired OMM's. Fun-ranks such as Crabby, Pirate, Cool Cat, etc. There were what, 6 or so OMM's when the rank was retired? Can someone confirm? @Zuzel111

 

80% of my sales aren't from/by Sythe so your point of view is quite wrong
Edit: Just checked, actually 84% of my sales are not from Sythe.

7 if OMM list was up to date

 

This is about all of the OMM's the vast majority used it as a symbol of trust to boost revenue and in turn were handsomely rewarded for their "endless grind of 1-2 years" even tho you literally just copy paste the same thing you posted the last time and edit in a few higher value vouches you recieved.

You got the respect and value out of the rank during its lifetime. Stop trying to milk it for every last ounce it has to offer.

 

7 fun-ranks isn't going to devalue them. Seems like a fair resolution to me.

Also, 7 including Video and Shin? If so, I doubt either of them even care for an additional fun-rank, as they already have a few, and you can only display a certain amount. So, 5 fun-ranks for arguments sake.

 

actually 8 where 3 of of them have maximal amount of fun ranks already

 

just one thing I’d like to say here: OMM’s voting portion never mattered. We were always just added opinions for upper staff to reference during their voting process as it was ultimately their decision whether someone was promoted to OMM or not.

But you might say, surely the upper staff looked through the OMM’s opinions and were swayed by what they said. While potentially, OMM were also purposely hard on voting during the process. I’d argue this was less about keeping a restriction on the supply of OMM (it’s not really that profitable to be one) but moreso the prestige of the rank. It was the quintessential “this person is trusted” rank for this website. If we promoted the wrong person, that’s bad news. The promotion process did become difficult to a point of being absurd however. I distinctly remember feedback here and there on some applicants being voted no on due to the formatting of their application or for not having a well-diversified portfolio of games they had MMed for (which both seem a bit silly to me)

 

Tbh I dont think allowing ex omm's to advertise the fact that they were omm's is a good idea.

the entire point of removing the omm rank was to allow the open market to decide who is "trusted".

If you let ex omm's to advertise the fact that they used to be omm's before it was shut down it puts them basically in the spot where they have a significant advantage over somebody with the same / simmilar rep but didnt have omm

 

People probably don't even care what my opinion is at this point but I like post count so I am going to say one final thing on this matter.

I have nothing personal against majority of the veteran users who had the OMM rank, infact I think some of them are great people.
However I do believe handing a funrank out that mentions how they are an "EX OMM" or something similar defeats the entire purpose of removing the rank to begin with.

I will however SUPPORT the EX OMM being given unrelated funranks (ie. crabby, mudkip etc) as a sort of prize for running such a successful closed off community that did "in some cases" help a lot of newer users as long as the statement made by Sellerman here

is also true.

 

@White

Actually, ex-OMM/Former OMM/etc, is allowed.

 

Seems odd. What if I wanted to put that in my title because I was raised by chimpanzees in the forest like Tarzan but have now assimilated into first world society therefore I am an Ex Orangutang Monkey Man?

 

1) Literally every single one of u OMM’s either took a decent fee for mming a trade//or inactive.
2) Nobody got a shot at becoming OMM for the past years (broken system, very outdated)
3) They served no purpose for the longest time.

This leads me to believe that none of the ex OMM’s deserve a funrank. If one of u were ensuring safe trading by being active and not taking fees then I would maybe support that one person in question deserving of a fun rank. But the truth is none of u did. If they are given a funrank for some retarded reason, for the love of God don’t give @Bogdan it.
No support.

 

Retired Highly Trusted has a nice ring to it

Poor analogy. The Funrank references a rank (OMM) that somebody previously held on Sythe which was retired. You're comparing that to someone getting a Funrank for an unrelated real-life event. Even if your example was clearly non-nonsensical, the underlying point is wrong.