[Denied] Give ex-OMMs a funrank instead of a minirank

Most of us know that becoming official middleman was one of the biggest challenges on Sythe forums. Becoming official middleman on Sythe was much harder than becoming a mod even during old days when you couldn't even apply for mod, you had to be hand-picked by staff and voted, (now it's much easier to become a mod than during old days).

There were literally few active OMMs and maybe a dozen of them who abandoned their services totally.
In my opinion removing the fun-rank and replacing it with just a minirank is spitting into faces of OMMs.
Miniranks are given for literally 5 minutes of work in events, they can be bought, they can be obtained from prizeboxes, they can be pretty much randomly given away by administrators, they have absolutely no prestige and mean nothing for trading.

When n4n0 was head OMM there was a rule - Official middleman is symbol of trustworthiness on this website, now people who proven their trustworthiness just lost their proof
I personally spent approx 1 year MMing everyday to complete OMM app, it took me 3 attempts and I feel so dissapointed with that bad treating of retired OMMs.

All OMMs I know including me were providing their services for free to gather required trades for applications, it's a huge sacrifice of time.

Since OMM was fun rank it should be replaced with fun rank, in my opinion there should be retired official middleman rank or some other rank of staff's choice, eg. Highly trusted wouldn't really hurt here considering how small the team of OMM team was and it matches with n4n0's words about symbol of trustworthiness, I think only 1 person in last 8 years got this rank actually.
EDIT: Highly trusted is not an option, this rank has been removed from other people who deserved it much more.

~Zuzel111
Ex OMM, MMing since 2012, owner of #9th the biggest MMing service, picked by community as best middleman of 2013 and 2014.

 

You actually had to keep some level of activity to keep the rank. A lot of people lost their ranks in 2 or 3 steps due to inactivity

 

well people who were stripped of their ranks already lost their status due to their inactivity so I agree with you.

 

100% support, should be atleast a fun rank that shows you were OMM since it takes a lot of time and trust to earn OMM. Shouldn't be just thrown in the trash.

 

Agreed. It took me 4 applications (and over 100 trades) and more than a year to become an OMM. I wrote the official guide and coached other free MM's along the way. It shaped my trading policies and standards for the better.

I submitted an application for mod based on time already spend on sythe, and after a short stint (a couple months) was demoted for inactivity.




Guess which one of those provides a fun rank.

 

Laptop got literally kicked out from staff team, he even got banned.
Mods who were moderating for very short period or were kicked out from staff weren't getting ex-mod (now retired mod) ranks
I didn't even know R2P's rank got removed, but yeah in this case highly trusted is not an option.
Regarding the 2) people who lost their status werent official middlemen anymore, so they didn't really lose anything by this change compared to people who actually put some effort into constantly offering OMM services.

OMM rank was a proof of trustworthiness, now that proof simply vanished, as n4n0 said - it was granted to people who proven their trustworthiness.
You are right about ex-omm rank too, it's useless to promote non existing role here.

 

To me and a lot of the other community members the OMM rank was deleted because it was a useless, outdated rank used mainly as a way of flexing its Trusted status on other traders and making more money during MM trades.

Near the removal of the rank, almost none if not any OMMs were free and they were all charging 10% fees or 5-15$ fees for Middlemanning.

The ideal goal of what an OMM should have been used for is a platform to freely help and facilitate MORE trades on the website because of your status, not MM less but gain large benefits from each trade.

Sorry if I'm making this sound mean but having a "fun rank" is just another sorry excuse of the former OMMs to keep their previous "status" and perpetuate the reasons why the role was removed in the first place.

The idea of the OMM was sound when it was created but the people who were granted the role were the reasons why it got removed.

No support

 

To be fair we did not "fun rank for fun rank" when we disbanded PR Team.

 

Support for Former OMM/Retired OMM fun rank, back in the day I worked my ass off to get OMM it took me 3 OMM applications in the span of around 2 years. Just a little fun rank is kinda a spit in the face to all the OMM's.

 

I don't see why or how this could hurt someone, this would do justice for the excruciating process it was to earn OMM more so than a mini-rank. I think we should call it Retired-OMM to resemble Retired Staff. There are some details that do need to be discussed though, is every OMM that has ever come to be going to earn this fun-rank? I think they personally they should, no offense to the OMM's that were on the team when the rank was retired, but they're no different than the demoted OMMs for the most part, that's just my personal opinion though. If an OMM was demoted over something unrelated to activity than maybe not, otherwise give it to them.

It could be confusing though since the rank doesn't exist anymore and in the coming future new users will not understand what it means.

At the end of the day there needs to be something more than a mini-rank to reward the OMMs for the hard work they put into getting the rank itself and the work they did afterwards. Recently it became a more inactive rank; however, that doesn't erase what they did in the past or what the rank symbolized.

 

I think it's absolutely brutal to have your Rank stripped, I can definitely relate. These Ranks on Sythe hold a lot of value to people, the Staff may act like they are unimportant, but at the same time they hand them to each other like candy. For some of us who earned their rank through their work to the site very long ago, and that effort is now disregarded, it's very unfortunate. To be clear, I got my rank from helping thorpe develop the Sythemils page in an effort to boost revenue for Sythe.org.

Most of the staff involved in the decision to remove my Highly Trusted rank and replace it with absolutely nothing wouldn't know who Thorpe is, nor would they know what Sythemils is. Because they probably were about 5 years old at the time. The project eventually failed, but we put in plenty of work on it and this was back in a time where trust was hard to come by.

Anyways, I really do feel for the OMM's, and anyone who has their Rank stripped for no particular reason. At the very least there should be some sort of consolation rank given to people who clearly earned their rank.

@Sythe

 

This is one of the main reasons this rank was removed, once the Head OMM stepped down from their position months ago, while going as long as it did without a Head OMM in place and many applicants sitting there it was clear to see that the OMM rank was to promote business' and individual sales instead of promoting safe trading with extortionate fees.

I see this rank being treated the same, one driven by self gain.

@King makes a great point for why staff deserve a the fun rank, OMM may have been extremely beneficial to the site before my time, but from the time i've spent on the forum the only benefit OMM has had was guiding users to trusted middlemen, to a MM that will charge a fee for self gain.

I think your own statement on the matter shows why this shouldn't be a thing.

 

Since OMM is now retired, these fun-ranks are practically anything close to exclusivity as someone can get in my opinion. With that being said, the OMM system definitely had its fault, we wouldn't be celebrating it; rather we'd be celebrating the extent these users went to beat that exclusive system and not to mention what they provided with and without a fee. A lot of us forget how many trades they did for free to even get to that point.