[denied] Disallow having thread in section if your fully outsourcing.

As it currently stands you can have thread if your outsourcing, and that person would not be allowed thread as it would be market manipulation, in theory this would allow person to have 50/60 threads. A great example of this is in GIM or inferno section but GIM items section is better example,

While it be very hard to balance this fix, a simple solution that may work is very simple to disallow threads if your out sourcing. I'm aware there ways around this rule, but I think it better solution then we currently have for most sections and there could be exceptions for some sections as well if needed, example RSPS section.

This would heavily benefit the smaller user rather then bigger users which is main point of this suggestion.

 

Support. Tbh this is the greatest gray area on this forums currently. These providers know that if they make the person they out source to advertise and they say absolutely nothing they get free advertising all day long from multiple users.

To add to what your saying if a server/company outsources something the person who is the outsourcer must list all the servers/companies he/she provides for in their one thread.

 

[OsrsSkillz]

No Support, Outsourcing is a day to day part of business around the world. I don't see it being a problem because the seller who is outsourcing takes the reasonability.

What if the big users are supporting the smaller users by outsourcing to them? Not enough research done on your part to see what the ratio of that is happening and I can't possibly support something incase that's happening.

I would also like to point out if you are hiring account builders to build accounts for you does that not count as outsourcing as you are relaying on a outside party?

 

[President]

1. By always having stock and taking bulk orders, they act as market makers — keeping spreads tight and liquidity high. Removing them would lead to fewer offers, wider price gaps, and longer wait times for customers.

2. There's also a problem with enforceability: if someone truly wants to outsource, and they hide it well, it's hard to prove that they did.

3. Implementing this rule might also push large providers to take their business off-site. Which means less oversight.

No support

 

Potentially add a forced disclaimer
"this is outsourced"
To make it clear.

Id say a large portion of the gold & rsps market is also affected by this, the amount of times we get a "can you trade directly to client" is unreal.

 

No support. Most of the large service providers and gold sellers nowadays outsource everything. I think this would lead to more headache for the staff than it would solve any existing issues. (Witch hunts, and people can get around this pretty easily.) The way the market is nowadays, I would rather opt in to let business bump threads, as well as the outsourced businesses. It would raise activity on the forums, and provide a way for smaller inferno capers and businesses who outsource to the big guys to gain more exposure for themselves by bumping their own threads again.

 

Support this

 

[Shin]

This already falls under the rule of spamming.

If multiple accounts are being used to orchestrate this, they should all be punished equally.

• Spamming:
  • Posting short and unhelpful comments, free bumps on other users' threads, and posting for the sake of increasing post count are all classified as spamming.
  • Creating multiple threads advertising the same thing, or having multiple threads in the same market section (unless allowed) also constitute spam.

 

No Support.

 

No Support.

If you disagree with a suggestion, provide constructive criticism and explain your reasoning.

 

[Poat]

While in theory I think the idea is a good one, the ability to execute and either prove/disprove people are outsourcing or not and what does or doesn’t count as outsourcing to begin with just makes the whole thing seem unfeasible.

The only market I could see this working in is Inferno/Quiver threads where its basically like the same group of people doing capes but id honestly rather see “trusted” people outsource the cape and cover the loss if anything were to happen making it ultimately better for the average joe to get their service done safer.

for that reason no support

 

I’m sure this would solve a multitude of problems but would likely open new ones. Outsourcing is done in every aspect of trading/markets/real life and it’s up to the consumer or the client to determine if the service provider will be held responsible for any sort of issues. No support.

 

[Top Rs B]

Support

 

No support.
Its big market so we always have to use someone else if we don't offer that or we offer it but we are busy right now so i don't see any reason for this suggestions

 

[OsrsSkillz]

No support.

If you disagree with a suggestion, provide constructive criticism and explain your reasoning.

 

[GZ AIO]

As it currently stands you can have thread if your outsourcing, and that person would not be allowed thread as it would be market manipulation, in theory this would allow person to have 50/60 threads. A great example of this is in GIM or inferno section but GIM items section is better example,

While it be very hard to balance this fix, a simple solution that may work is very simple to disallow threads if your out sourcing. I'm aware there ways around this rule, but I think it better solution then we currently have for most sections and there could be exceptions for some sections as well if needed, example RSPS section.

This would heavily benefit the smaller user rather then bigger users which is main point of this suggestion.

Aren't gold sales a form of outsourcing? It is not as if you are attaining/goldfarming the gold your self, either supplier drops it off or you collect it and then sell it.

Most workers aren't exclusive and work for many others and a lot of these workers are not independent but work for 3WC facility which has a rake back as well, etc.

Doesn't make sense IMO. I have various providers who don't directly outsource, but will mark up a sale and then come to me for the service/fulfillment. Its like Amazon FBA/Drop shipping in a sense. Work as a middle man and capitalize off the margins.

Outsourcing helps keep competition and market growth as it increases reach to various populations, large or small. I get the point of market manipulation with outsourcing as the the fulfillment provider in the end will capitalize even though the order is not directly through them, but at the same time; does it not reduce risk as the fulfillment provider is a reputable source vs hiring your own workers and them scamming?

I don't outsource, but rather partner/hire the people directly, but I let others resell my services/products/accounts with payment pre-fulfillment. I have yet to see any of these people advertise my products on Sythe though.

 

Aren't gold sales a form of outsourcing? It is not as if you are attaining/goldfarming the gold your self, either supplier drops it off or you collect it and then sell it.

Reselling isn't the same as outsourcing.

 

[GZ AIO]

Reselling isn't the same as outsourcing.

If you source the seller and get them directly to deliver the product while you remain a man in the middle is the literal definition of outsourcing. Outsourcing and reselling go hand in hand. Only time its pure reselling is if you hold the product and resell it. I'm talking about supplier to buyer and never touches your hands. There are loads of sellers like that who partner up with a gold seller you resell from or outsource to and take a cut for providing them a platform. I.E Probemas/Mypvm, probemas provides a platform but mypvm commits the work. Another example is kizaro and opduel, same principle.

 

If you source the seller and get them directly to deliver the product while you remain a man in the middle is the literal definition of outsourcing. Outsourcing and reselling go hand in hand. Only time its pure reselling is if you hold the product and resell it. I'm talking about supplier to buyer and never touches your hands. There are loads of sellers like that who partner up with a gold seller you resell from or outsource to and take a cut for providing them a platform. I.E Probemas/Mypvm, probemas provides a platform but mypvm commits the work. Another example is kizaro and opduel, same principle.

Yes so outsourcing and reselling aren't the same.

 

Attempting To Bypass the 1 Thread per Market Section Limit: You may only have one thread per market section advertising your goods, services, or platform (Discord server/website, etc) unless otherwise specified. Attempts to circumvent this limit will result in a 1 month ban and possibly a DNT in severe cases.

go claim it falls under this and ban them urself

Edit : dm me the names even and I’ll go make reports

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grok, deepseek, chatgpt and gemini all agree for some reason with me, i get banned and dnt'd meanwhile this is allowed to exist cause half the mods engage in it, tough stuff