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  1. Cherub

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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    Currently there's only a marginal difference between $300 and $500+ donation ranks.

    I suggest having auto-bumper white listing be a higher donation level perk ($500 or $1k+), as its the newest addition to the army of $300 donor perks.

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    Let me know what you think.
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    Or just add new perks to the 500$ donor-rank?
     
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    Such as?
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    Be creative.

    The general principle: If your goal is to incentivize more people to make a 500$ donation, then adding more perks will always be a step in the right direction. Especially if you take into account that most donators don't just lump in their full cash-stack at once, but they do this gradually. To take away a 300$ perk only means to de-incentivize users of reaching the 300$ benchmark, and thus, make the ladder to 500$ only bigger.

    In addition, if we take your reasoning at its best, which assumes that the 500$ should inherently differentiate itself featurewise from the 300$, then so should a 700$ donation, and so forth. It's a slipping slope to take this as a principle that must be maintained.
    IMO the 500$ donation brings its own merits to the table. You are literally one of the 3% with the big shiny cash stack under your name.
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    My suggestion is to even out the perks. A side benefit of that is it will incentivise higher donor levels.
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    Your suggestion is to take away a 300$ perk and add that to the 500$ status. As I said, most people don't just lump in for a 500$ donation at once status for one single perk. In fact, most people can't financially cover this. So instead they just donate in "steps". If you want to incentivize higher levels of donors, as you just mentioned, you should consider making the steps towards it more attractive.
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    There's plenty of incentive to donate for $300. The autobump whitelist was a recent addition.

    This suggestion isn't for a new perk, but rather to review the decision of autobump whitelisting being a $300 perk.

    The vast majority of users that used autobumpers on Sythe (before the autobumper ban / whitelisting perk) were established traders already, with the majority having $300 donor as a standard. This would increase their incentive to increase this donor status.

    A new user would not be looking to autobump their threads
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    I think an evening out of the perks is a good idea. If they do switch it to $500 I’m not going to donate $200 more dollars though just for it.

    Blending your idea in with @President , I think maybe adding (thinking of reasonable perks) would be a better idea.

    Just to throw out a few for $500.

    -Upper spam access
    -Built in autobumper on the forum
    -Visible miniranks
    -Fun rank purchase access

    Again, not disagreeing with you, but giving more of a reasoning to your $500 donation / others $500+ donation status.
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    Yeah, and if we can find consensus on the perks fitting the donation-status, then that's a banger of an idea. Thanks for doing the creative work :)
     
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    Nah think it’s way too high a donation level for being able to use an auto bumper.
     
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    No support because im 300$ donor and i am not interested to donate extra 200.
     
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    yeah I support, I think we need more perks for 500$ donor and that is a good one that would encourage people to donate!
     
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    I think Richard would have set it higher had he wanted it to be higher in all reality. Therefore, no support. Although I think higher ranks should have some perks
     
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    No support I don't see people donating an additional 200.00 for an auto bumper personally. I agree with working out more perks if that is what the community wants to do. But this specific suggestion is going to be a no support.
     
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    the thread is going back and fourth between different suggestions btw. the main focus is increasing the autobumper whitelist to $500, if you want to add more incentives to the $500 ect donor ranks i would make a new thread. though i don't support increasing the donor limit to $500. one of the reasons for it being $300 is so that those sitting at $100/200 level will push up to the $300 mark
     
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    $1k donor for auto bumps would change the game completely $300 donor is legit giving you perks already, and $500 donor is a sniff, thats 1 account sold or a service completed, $1k would be the best option.

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    However maybe an auto bump tool by Sythe itself at $1k, having to purchase your auto bumper increases risks of your account being computerized as you have to log into your account on said tools.

    YH
     
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    I would go $1k tomorrow if there was a site based auto bumper that didn't require me paying some random $ for their sketchy script.

    YH
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    As an actor in this debate, I'll try to give my thought-process and explain what this means from my perspective. I hope that this adds something constructive:

    Right now, I'm considering donating an additional 100$ for the perks I get at 300$. I think this is worth it. However, I don't see myself donating an additional 300$ to get to 500$ in the short-run. I agree with @Cherub that the perks that I'd get at 500$ do not really justify the added 300$. Additionally, when it comes down to the reputation aspect of the donation, I don't see how this pays off either; the difference in status between a 300$ donator and a 500$ donator doesn't feel that different from my eyes.

    If the autobumper becomes available at 500$, I wouldn't pay 300$ anytime soon to unlock the perk. The perk isn't worth 300$ to me, even if you combine it with the reputation aspect of the donation. My 200$ donation already covers most of that part for me. I'd, perhaps, consider donating an extra 100$ to boost the reputation-side, simply because I'd become part of an even smaller group, but that's it. Please consider that this is my assessment. Another 200$ donator may value the reputation-side of his donation and the perk-factor in a totally different manner than I do.

    At last, if Sythe really is going to change this, it must really analyse the impact on the groups and take into consideration more than just the reasons to donate. The dynamics of the current donation groups must be taken into account. At the moment 7% of Sythe consists of 200$ donators, 5% of the users are 300$ donators and 3% are 500$ donators. Concrete questions like "will such a perk-transfer net Sythe with more donation money? Will less people donate?" must be assessed. But also more principled questions like "will 300$ donators be duped by such policy?" are relevant.
     
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    The majority of people looking to use autobumpers will already be $300+ donors. Your case is not the norm. $300 donor is a standard at the moment for any established trader that will look to use autobumpers. There is no incentive to donate more at the moment (from a perk perspective).
     
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