USA Government lie 9/11

Twin Towers
The Towers where hit by planes, no hiding that, but that is not what took them down. Many of the survivors from the towers said they heard large explosions both before and after the planes hit. After the towers fell, there was molten metal flowing from the pile of rubble, it has been proven that explosions from a plane could not create enough heat to make molten metal, yet explosions from a bomb could. The government made 2 demolition houses, after all, whats 3,000 people to them? Power? or People? After looking at the structure of the towers, there where large metal beams that went up the building, from ground to sky. These polls were placed so that even in an air attack, the building would remain standing (with many holes). There is absolutely no way that the planes brought down the buildings.

The Pentagon
Again, people who where in the Pentagon at the time heard explosions, but unlike the towers nobody seen any planes. The 3 security cameras they recovered that seen the explosion, only seen an explosion, no planes. The government blames this on lag in the cameras. Lets go with that, wheres the wreckage? No plane wreckage was ever recovered. Perhaps their biggest mistake was saying that a Boeing- 757 had hit the Pentagon. Without the wings, there is still no way a 757 could fit in the hole. With a wingspan of 124 feet, overall height at 231 feet 10.2 inches, tail height being 44 feet 6 inches, and a overall length at 155 feet 3 inches all to fit into a hole of 15 feet tall and 17 feet wide. At the time they where upgrading the pentagon to be air attack resistant and this is the only place where it was resistant at the time.

Flaws
9/11 Was a greatly planned government terror attack, but there where many flaws. Perhaps the greatest flaw was with the Pentagon. They said a plane had hit it but there was no plane wreckage. Couldn't they just scatter some wreckage around and say it's from a plane? Then the Twin Towers. There where many premature detonations, they released blue prints to the public hoping we wouldn't notice beams that resisted air attacks.

Background info
The Twin Towers where in fact hit by hijacked planes. Did the Government pay Al-Qaeda to do this? If they did, why? Through out American history, the government has always tried to stay in power. They put on a scare for the citizens of the united states so we follow them instead of branching off. Why might Al-Qaeda accept such a deal? They are simply trying to be a "world bully".

1996-2001
Federal authorities are aware for years before 9/11 that suspected terrorists with ties to Osama bin Laden are receiving flight training at schools in the US and abroad. One convicted terrorist confesses that his planned role in a terror attack was to crash a plane into CIA headquarters.On multiple occasions spies give detailed reports on bin Laden's location. Each time, the CIA director or White House officials prevent bin Laden's elimination.

2000-2001
15 of the 19 hijackers fail to fill in visa documents properly in Saudi Arabia. Only six are interviewed. All 15 should have been denied entry to the US. Two top Republican senators say if State Department personnel had merely followed the law, 9/11 would not have happened. The military conducts exercises simulating hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets causing mass casualties. One target is the World Trade Center (WTC), another the Pentagon. Yet after 9/11, over and over the White House and security officials say they're shocked that terrorists hijacked airliners and crashed them into landmark buildings.

2001
After the November 2000 elections, US intelligence agencies are told to "back off" investigating the bin Ladens and Saudi royals. There have always been constraints on investigating Saudi Arabians. A series of military and governmental policy documents is released that seek to legitimize the use of US military force in the pursuit of oil and gas. One advocates presidential subterfuge and hiding the reasons for warfare "as a necessity for mobilizing public support." For the third time, US security chiefs reject Sudan's offer of thick files on bin Laden and al-Qaeda. A senior CIA source calls it "the worst single intelligence failure in the business." German intelligence warns the CIA that Middle Eastern terrorists are training for hijackings and targeting American interests. Russian President Vladimir Putin alerts the US of suicide pilots training for attacks on US targets. In late July, a Taliban emissary warns the US that bin Laden is planning a huge attack on American soil. In August, Israel warns of an imminent Al Qaeda attack. President Bush receives an intelligence briefing warning that bin Laden might be planning to hijack airliners. Titled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US," the briefing specifically mentions the WTC. Yet Bush later claims it "said nothing about an attack on America." Data recovery experts extract data from 32 damaged WTC computer drives. The data reveals a surge in financial transactions shortly before the attacks. Illegal transfers of over $100 million may have been made through WTC computer systems immediately before and during the 9/11 disaster. Six air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners make a tape recording describing the events within hours of the attacks. The tape is never turned over to the FBI. It is later illegally destroyed by a supervisor without anyone making a transcript or even listening to it.

2002
FBI Agent Wright formally accuses the FBI of deliberately curtailing investigations that might have prevented 9/11. He is threatened with retribution if he talks to Congress about this.

2004
The 9/11 Commission Report is published. It fails to mention that a year before the attacks a secret Pentagon project had identified four 9/11 hijackers, including leader Mohamed Atta. The Commission spokesperson initially states members were not informed of this, but later acknowledges they were.

2006-2011
Over 50 senior government officials, 100 respected professors, and 1,000 architects and engineers criticize The 9/11 Commission Report as flawed, and call for a new, independent investigation.

The fatal flaw


In order for the people of the world to be convinced that Islamic hijackers were responsible for terrible tragedy of 9/11, we need to see some evidence. Not hearsay, innuendo, aspersion or promises of evidence, but real evidence. Otherwise, the whole subject is rightly regarded as a ruse, a setup to conceal the identities of the real culprits, the ones who sit smugly in front of the TV cameras and plot their cynical war on terror — otherwise known as the war on the peoples of the world.As President Bush continues to insist that his word be accepted as truth on numerous questions, time after time his statements have been revealed as blatant falsehoods. Yet he continues to repeat them, and the corporate media continues to accept them. Why hasn't either the Bush administration or some element of law enforcement in the United States issued a single solid piece of evidence connecting the hijackers to the hijacked airplanes? Why don’t the alleged hijackers appear on the airport security videos? Why aren’t there credit card records of their ticket purchases? Why did FBI director Robert Mueller say very publicly to the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco that nothing on paper connected Arab terrorists to 9/11? Ten years have passed, and the feds produced 19 names within 72 hours of the disaster. Notice a mathematical inconsistency here? All that has happened since is mere vigilante hysteria, hypothetical scenarios trumpeted ad nauseum by America’s notorious press. Seven or eight of the names on that original list have been found living comfortably in other countries. And why, after much hullabaloo about Colin Powell using phony information in his remarks to the United Nations about the reasons for war, hasn’t the U.S. government produced a single conclusive piece of evidence to back up its claim that 9/11 was the work Osama bin Laden and other Islamic terrorists? Not a single piece!The unknown men who where the terrorist hijackers were really recruited by either American and/or Israeli intelligence services.You know how the Bushista American government uses anything for PR to supposedly authenticate its own evil agenda. If they had any concrete evidence against the hijackers — if they even possessed all their correct names — we would have heard about it by now. There would be an avalanche of TV shows about them. We have security camera film at the Pentagon, which surely reveal that no jetliner hit that building, locked away in Ashcroft's vault under the phony aegis of national security. We have all the rubble of the World Trade Center, which surely would have revealed the use of explosives creating shattered beams in odd places, instantly carted away with little forensic investigation. We have transcripts — but no recordings — of these cellphone calls, some from people who may or may not have even existed. And we have the famous standdown, in which America's air defenses suddenly evaporated — the only time in our history this has happened. We have billions of dollars of windfall profits made by investors in the days before 9/11, and an FBI investigation that insists nothing was amiss with these spectacular deals. Of course, we don't get the details. Only "assurances" that the trades were not suspicious, despite patterns and results that were unprecedented in the entire history of financial trading.We have reports from firemen of explosions at the base of the Twin Towers BEFORE they fell, and the seismographic evidence to back up these assertions Perhaps most tellingly of all, we have the tragic tale of John O’Neill, rabidly honest FBI investigator, prevented from following his leads about Osama bin Laden because of the danger he would have discovered the links from Afghanistan back to CIA headquarters.

edit: for all of you saying show proof, look at this, please:







And did you really ask why we still care? this shows our government killed 3k + of our innocent citizens for no reason, then lie to us.

 

Would be nice to see some sources to back up this information you have posted.

 

All of the points you made are old and have all been debunked time and time again by third party experts.

 

This .

OP Come back with some legitimate sources or risk being ridiculed for buying into silly propaganda.

 

Yeah pretty much this with any of the physics stuff, however it can't be denied that there was reason and motive; that it could have been at least known it was going to happen but turned a blind eye to.

We'll never know though.

 

Why debate what is almost impossible to prove.

 

Why do you still care about this? Even if it were true, your thread in a gaming forum isn't going to topple the US gov. Conspiracy theories have been going around for ages; nothing is going to change.

 

Apparently no one took the fact that the Jet fuel might not of exploded on impact. Sure the plane could of exploded on impact but some jet fuel could have been left over for the 2nd explosion.

 

look at the pictures, tell me that is jet fuel, we will know, and we do know, proof is still proof that cannot be disproved, especially with pictures, sorry i dont have sources, i look this up almost everyday for different information, i have almost 200 pages of proving that 9/11 was done by our government

 

There is no point trying to prove if it was real or not to other people. Each person has their own opinion and most of the facts you stated have been debunked time and time again. Who knows what really happened, but there is one thing that is true. We sure as hell ain't going to find out anytime soon.

 

people with a brain in their skull know what happened, some people have not seen this information, i am trying to get it out in any way possible, because my brother died in the towers. I want the families, as well as the united states citizens, to know what happened on that day, or to show enough evidence to have at least a 95% knowing of what happened.

 

Agreeing with Fendle - I have seen numerous counter-arguments that make a lot of your facts obsolete. (independent sources)

You can have your own opinion - not denying that.

 

The reason they did this is not a secret, its been known forever, your theory of them wanting to scare citizens into giving them more power is highly probable. but its simpler than that. Our government sold Iraq weapons. Our government then either framed or paid them to attack the twin towers. This gave the government the option to go to war without it looking like another Vietnam. The reason for the war was not "weapons of mass destruction". The reason was Oil. those lives lost in the towers was all just a means to take oil from the middle east. And now it's gone further as well. America killed their leader, saddam Husane or however the fuck you spell it, and he had NOTHING to do with these terrorist attacks. yes he was a tyrant and an evil man, but not a terrorist. And why did the government kill Saddam? Well I dont know exactly, but I do know America has FORCED democracy into Iraq. It's still to be reveled why, but I personally believe with a war for oil, forcing democracy and of course the votes will be rigged just like they are in our country, America can take full control of the middle east after some time and eventually have full control of their oil.

 

9/11 will always be a conspiracy to me until the day I die.

 

As a person who knows little about government, as it bores me.

This just seems like a joke to me.
Most of these points were disproved anyway.

 

To even suggest that the hijackers weren't Muslim makes me dismiss your entire argument.

Have fun with your conspiracy theory.