COLTS7841 - A technical Core - PROLIFIC SCAMMER - BAN IMMEDIATELY

[Kaska]

What's your side of the story?

I sold an account to Racks on Racks, he was going to pay me once a week for 4-5 weeks. At the time he seemed pretty trusted as he was a 300 donor and had a good amount of vouches. I saw no reason for him to scam me the way he did. (He apparently scam quit because he lost a dice or something, or that's what he told me) Anyways fast forward a few days he wants to make another payment but instead he wants to donate to sythe all in paypal and take back the 80m and just do straight 250 as a donation. I said if he did the $250 donation i'd give him the 80m back after as it would be stupid to pay for a donation rank and not give him his 80m back. He said alright, come back later he says he scammed quit. I was thinking ok so i'll just attempt to get my account back as it is my account, I spent 800+ hours on it i'll just get my account back as I did not receive full payment for it. Anyways that's all I can think of for now I just have an example.

Say you're selling some nice furniture (my account) Someone makes an offer to buy it and pay for it over a few weeks while making a down payment of 30m and paying 50m within the given time period. The person then makes a payment (I have 80m now) then decides that things aren't going to well for them, I'll toss this furniture onto someone else get the full value out of this furniture and flee the country (racks on racks scam quit) The person who now has this furniture (another victim) gets caught with the owners items (me) while they are another victim in this the owner of said furniture would still have the right to take it back would they not, the buyer of the goods (ezky boy) would have to open a scam report on Racks on Racks because they got scammed. Anyways that's just my example.

There was no intent on my part to scam, I was making a legitimate sale to Racks on racks there is no way I could have known he was going to scam quit, he had already paid me 80m of the accounts 265m sale. But that is how this site and many others work you take chances and they don't always go your way.

I made a mistake trusting someone, just as ezky made a mistake buying an account off someone for less than they paid for it. Obviously there could be something fishy going on there and they should probably contact the Original owner before purchasing off someone else.

 

[EskyBoy]

This is a very thorough reply with all the requested pictures, so I apologise in advance to those reading. Also want to say I am writing this with a cool head so I will highlight all the errors and wrong doings, to make it easier for mods.


Firstly, I apologise for asking you to remain unbiased, I thought a bias might occur since you’re a technical core and a donor. Naturally would lead me to think you are more valued.


1st screenshot – me talking with racks and him stating who the original owners are

2nd screenshot – racks stating the reason for a sale, I have included this as Colts the rat thinks that I should have been alarmed at a reduced price on the purchase. He has provided me a valid reason to keep me calm.

3rd screenshot – Agreed sum of 525M for 2 accounts.

4th screenshot – I requested both users skype for the accounts. Incase I needed to contact for any help.


5th screenshot – racks was in a rush, he didn’t want to use an MM. He was an MM himself. I also trusted him since I had done some gambling with him a few days before.

6th screenshot – 300M agreed and me going on to trade him

7th screenshot – racks confirming receiving the first half of payment

8th screenshot – racks confirming receiving the second half of payment

9th screenshot – I reached out to colts to let him know ive made a purchase and to notify him that I will contact him for any help.

10th / 11th screenshot / 12th screenshot – I have seen the scam report hes filed and have asked him what is going to happen. He CLEARLY states HE has been scammed. Led me to think everything is fine on my part. IF YOU LOOK at his previous comment on the thread ‘ I recovered the second I found out he did a scam quit’. Bullshit. He has waited to recover it over a day. He didn’t notify me he was going to recover it. This itself shows signs of a crook. I don’t want any attention to go unpassed on the fact there was 200M on my account.

I have spent a lot of time on this report. I work most days and this is just pure bollocks. I don’t have proof of my gold on there also I don’t need to prove that. This guy is a scammer, he has heavily defrauded me. His ignorance and his reasoning for scamming are unparalleled. His example for his scam if just utter bollocks too. You filed a scam report on racks knowingly that you have been scammed of your account. DO NOT PLACE THE BURDEN OF YOUR LOSS ONTO ME. IT DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.

 

[Shin]

For how I read the situation, @Colts7841 will need to return the account to @EskyBoy.

Open to additional staff opinion regarding this case. Thank you.

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[EskyBoy]

I hope you get an infraction as I did

 

[EskyBoy]

Thanks shin for your quick response
I will await for other staff members and admins to give their verdicts

 

[EskyBoy]

I would also like to know your thoughts on him stealing my GP then playing it down as if he didn't

 

[Shin]

I would also like to know your thoughts on him stealing my GP then playing it down as if he didn't

Do you have proof of having 200m on the account? Is there a bank pin on the account?

I'm not sure how you can claim anything has been stolen without providing any proof or explanation.

When an account is recovered, is the bank pin and 2FA reset/removed automatically? Or only 2FA?

 

[iHateQuesting]

Do you have proof of having 200m on the account? Is there a bank pin on the account?

I'm not sure how you can claim anything has been stolen without providing any proof or explanation.

When an account is recovered, is the bank pin and 2FA reset/removed automatically? Or only 2FA?

@Shin only 2fa is removed, bank pins are an in game system and can't be changed by anyone including Jmods.

 

[Shin]

@Shin only 2fa is removed, bank pins are an in game system and can't be changed by anyone including Jmods.

That's what I thought, so the RSGP he claims to have "lost" should still be locked up in the bank.

 

@Shin only 2fa is removed, bank pins are an in game system and can't be changed by anyone including Jmods.

I'd like to add that the bank pin is either removed after 3 days or after 7 days, (depending on what the user chose when setting it up) which could potentially make this a time-sensitive case. Seeing as 2 days have passed.

 

[EskyBoy]

Shin, why would I not have GP on my account.. I can't prove I did. I didn't think twice I'd get fucked over like this, I didn't even know I had to take pictures of all this

Just think with common sense for a second, I buy a maxed account to pvm on, I will obviously have maxed gear for this

All my sets were maxed... full arma full bandos ags etc

I boaght the account roughly 3 days ago and the pin was pending, had about 7 hours time left till it was approved

So Colts either has not access to the bank or he's recovered it just in time and deleted the pending bank. Either way he will get my bank within the next few hours. If you ask me to prove I had bank on there surely you should ask him to prove there was no bank on there?????

 

[Kaska]

I waited a day to recover the account? @EskyBoy Pretty sure it takes a day to process the recovery, furthermore I didn't give Racks on racks permission to resell until the future (when the account was paid off)

Furthermore, how dumb can someone be to not contact the original owner of the account before purchasing lol, can't even stress the fact hard enough that he bought the account from racks on racks for ~40m less than racks bought it from me for just a few days after racks bought it off me.

 

[EskyBoy]

Stop making me look autistic and trying to make me look like the scammer

Recovery results come within 1-5 hours at most. Why the fuck would you even recover the account without telling me???????????? Just answer that????? What gave you the right to defraud me like that??????

I didn't need to contact you before the purchase, you had a thread with the exact stats WHICH I VIEWED, you had a vouch thread with exchanged vouches. This was enough for me to know you were the original owner. You exchanging vouches with him made me think that he had rightfully paid of the account. AGAIN THATS ANOTHER BIG ERROR ON YOUR PART.

Can you not see him saying he needed IRL funds. I purchased 2 accounts, which were both highly priced. Idgaf if you hadnt given racks permission to sell it or not.

Can mods/staff see to this as Colts won't give my account I purchased back.

He's waiting out the bank pin I'm guessing if not already cleaned me.

You are a rat. You should be banned immediately

 

[EskyBoy]

@All staff

 

[EskyBoy]

Your exchange in vouches itself speaks volumes. Give my account and GP back
This matter is numbing my head and I don't even want to go into work tomorrow.

 

[EskyBoy]

Racks on Racks' feedback/vouch thread
Big vouch! Sold him my RS account, fast and smooth deal, and friendly too Recommend this guy

That is the exact comment you left on his vouch thread

 

[Kaska]

@EskyBoy please explain this, you didn't contact me like you claimed

 

Nemo dat quod non habet - Wikipedia

If the account was the subject of a rent-to-own agreement between colts and racks, and racks broke his end of the agreement by failure to make payments, then the account reverts to colts.

Unfortunately racks did not have ownership, merely possession, and therefore cannot transfer ownership to esky. Esky is unfortunately high and dry in this situation. The common law is *very* well settled on this point. See the link above.

Any items esky transferred to the account should be given back to him however.

 

Privity of contract - Wikipedia

Colts made a rent-to-own agreement with racks, which racks defaulted on. In that situtation colts is entitled to keep the payments already made toward the account unless there are explicit contract terms which dictate otherwise.

Further, the contract was between two parties and two parties only, and creates obligations and rights only between those parties. A third party cannot be injected.

 

[Shin]

Nemo dat quod non habet - Wikipedia

If the account was the subject of a rent-to-own agreement between colts and racks, and racks broke his end of the agreement by failure to make payments, then the account reverts to colts.

Unfortunately racks did not have ownership, merely possession, and therefore cannot transfer ownership to esky. Esky is unfortunately high and dry in this situation. The common law is *very* well settled on this point. See the link above.

Any items esky transferred to the account should be given back to him however.

Did Colts give permission to Racks to resell the account?

If not, I don't understand how this thread was up for a week without anything being said.
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In addition, the vouches made on Colts' selling thread gave the impression the account had been sold and paid for (by both parties).
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