Thx for feedback. i just threw on the font because i hate rippers... The render was all ready blury when i got so ill get better next time, xjaa is right its hard being green, o ye i'm using gimp so the filters and lighting affects arn't up to par with photoshops nemerous kinds. thx again i think ill add some scan lines! I will be adding new font and render because they suck! Any suggestions?