Closing down shop

I love your UI

@Gen made it <3 He's sooo talented. Luv it.

 

[Waarheid]

Lol, he knows what vading is. NO ONE joins the forums a few days ago and starts beef with a mod. hahah.

get some respect on my name FAM

 

I hope to have you informed you all well enough, this is becoming a spam. Closed.

 

Those who care: I've found a job, a new request for insurance and the objection for the first denial have been sent. Starting on my new job next monday.

 

[Tyler]

I'm in after to lock to say that I love you and it's great you found a job. I'm here if you need to talk carrot man @Wortel

 

For those who care; I've listed proof for them of over 200+ donations aswell as about 100+ other vouches. After that we've received mails and calls from them asking me to provide a list of all contents because I provided alot of information. Both the objection and new requests have been sent in and we've already heard that my objection has a very small chance of succeeding. They also told me that if I'd work 2 hours more I'd be above the minimum wage and in that case you don't have the right to receive the insurance anymore. They literally adviced me to just start handling donations or w/e here again, so that the additional 100EUR a month would be received from here. Because IF I'd be willing to have the insurance, I must request a removal of my account here (which I already told them numerous times is impossible) or atleast terminate my bondholdership - which would be no problem for me.

Anyways, it's a living joke. We've been dancing around since July with them now and all they really did was consider me as someone who'd abuse the system. I've spent literally multiple days getting all the information together and their first response was that it was too much information while it was all the information they asked for. Considering the circumstances I've been living in IRL lately they are a living joke, but oh well. I believe however they could've calculated months earlier how much I'd earn approx a month and how big the chances were to get the insurance.

Right now I have some time to think about it. Perhaps I could/should continue my business here, though I'll be less active for sure considering the fact I've gotten a job IRL now.

 

Reopening this to seek advice in regards to the following:

I have a decision to make. And there are 2 options.

1. Quit all trading activities permanently and receive the insurance benefits. (approx 100EUR per month extra)
   Upsides
   - Calmer in my head
   - More free time to use for moderating/gaming/myself
   - Something else (feel free to ask privately)
2. Start up all trading activities again and try to take care of myself by finding a way via e.g. Sythe.org to earn the additional 100EUR per month atleast.
   Upsides
   - No restrictions
   - I get to assist users in donating again - though I'll most likely quit doing RSGP trades
   - I have a bigger chance of ever being chosen "most trustworthy" once

Though there are downsides too for both. If I say YES to the insurance that means I get to fill out some papers on a monthly basis, but I also will be restricted from helping out the community - though if I do get to help the community by saying NO to the insurance, I'll still have to request some kind of fee so in a way I'll still not be helping the community, while helping out myself more.

There's alot to this and keep in mind this is about the new insurance request (requested late October), the objection against the first denial of my insurance is still going - but I have a bad feeling that saying NO to this insurance might affect the decision making on the objection aswell, even though the municipality here claims it won't.

 

[gambling_babz]

If you get a promising job here, take it. Keep in your mind that not many jobs on sythe.org are as promising as you want

 

If you get a promising job here, take it. Keep in your mind that not many jobs on sythe.org are as promising as you want

I'm not referring to jobs, I'm referring to advertisements and fees for donations. I have found a job IRL and considering how much current signature advertisements were going for I could easily get the 100EUR additional per month through that.

 

Personally I'd say second option. More freedom is a plus as opposed to jumping through hoops for government assistance.

Idt anyone minds you taking a fee for helping the community out, especially if it's helping you live better.

 

Personally I'd say second option. More freedom is a plus as opposed to jumping through hoops for government assistance.

Idt anyone minds you taking a fee for helping the community out, especially if it's helping you live better.

This has been going on since July though, so that'd mean all this was for nothing. Plus if they'll ever assign me the objection that'd mean I'd still get an insurance + get paid for the last few moths at which I'll say YES for sure because that involves thousands of euros. At that point we'd be back to square one, but then again I have my highest doubts they'll assign the objection to me.

 

This has been going on since July though, so that'd mean all this was for nothing. Plus if they'll ever assign me the objection that'd mean I'd still get an insurance + get paid for the last few moths at which I'll say YES for sure because that involves thousands of euros. At that point we'd be back to square one, but then again I have my highest doubts they'll assign the objection to me.

I guess the smartest choice would be to wait for the result of the dispute before you made a choice if you're able to. At least you have a solid backup plan if it comes down to a worst case scenario.

 

I guess the smartest choice would be to wait for the result of the dispute before you made a choice if you're able to. At least you have a solid backup plan if it comes down to a worst case scenario.

Well what they were saying is that the decision is basically in my hands now, this second request I can get the insurance for sure. The first one is still being discussed by some kind of commission. The decision about the second one lays in my hands now which is the weirdest choice a municipality could ever make but she suggested me I should consider picking up trading here etc again because I might not like all the restrictions from the insurance, but then again it's not that weird for them to tell a citizen to figure out his income, so that they don't have to pay for it.

 

Well what they were saying is that the decision is basically in my hands now, this second request I can get the insurance for sure. The first one is still being discussed by some kind of commission. The decision about the second one lays in my hands now which is the weirdest choice a municipality could ever make but she suggested me I should consider picking up trading here etc again because I might not like all the restrictions from the insurance, but then again it's not that weird for them to tell a citizen to figure out his income, so that they don't have to pay for it.

I think if your able to wait for the result of the first scenario you'd better be able to make a choice. Would delaying the process until then affect your ability to receive the aid?

 

I think if your able to wait for the result of the first scenario you'd better be able to make a choice. Would delaying the process until then affect your ability to receive the aid?

It's impossible to wait for that, we've already requested a delay of a week to decide on this one, so I have until Thursday to decide on this second request and later on the objection will be decided on.

 

It's impossible to wait for that, we've already requested a delay of a week to decide on this one, so I have until Thursday to decide on this second request and later on the objection will be decided on.

I guess the best advice I can really give is to trust your instincts. If you feel like you're going to be denied retroactive payment it might just be time to cut your losses and go back to using Sythe as a source of income.

From everything I've read thus far I think I would personally choose option 2.

Best of luck no matter what you choose though.

 

You know how I feel, but I support whatever choice you make !<3 You know you better than anyone

 

[Tyler]

Reopening this to seek advice in regards to the following:
I have a decision to make. And there are 2 options.

1. Quit all trading activities permanently and receive the insurance benefits. (approx 100EUR per month extra)
   Upsides
   - Calmer in my head
   - More free time to use for moderating/gaming/myself
   - Something else (feel free to ask privately.

This is the better option. Nobody doubts the work you do for this website, but there comes a time when you need to take care of yourself before looking to help the website.

Things like mental health, stability, and a secure income are much better than the option you are suggesting. There's a quote I hear every now and again.

"Don't put yourself on fire to make others warm"

 

PM to Matthew has been sent. Still doesn't feel like I made a solid decision, but have at it.

Hey Matthew, I'm not sure if you have read my thread and one of my latest posts though I've gotten at the point where I believe taking some time off from donations and such will be best for me, so I can receive the benefits of the insurance as stepping down as bondholder was one of their requirements. I'll miss being of assitance for the website this way for sure and I'm more than certain I won't be gone for good from trading practises, though until I've atleast gotten to the poin where I'm in safe haven, I'd like to request the bondholder permissions to be deleted. This goes with alot of sadness, though I feel comfort by thinking it doesn't have to be a permanent decision.

Thanks alot,
Wortel.

 

The decision has been made; I've chosen for insurance therefore will step down as bondholder (temporarily). Thank you to all who gave me their opinions.