Mods - Favoritism a Problem in Gold Exchange

At the moment, there seems to be a fair deal of favoritism taking place the in the Gold Exchange forums. Bumping rules have been set in place which, to some, like myself and particularly my employee R2Anne (who has been banned THREE TIMES now for it), are being enforced almost IMMEDIATELY and with HARSH punishments.

I was banned myself for my FIRST OFFENCE earlier this year RETROACTIVELY from a rule change. The obvious mistake was made apparent to moderators who eventually overturned this ridiculous offence against me. Since then I have been scared shitless to even make a post within 23 hours of my previous one. However, on a quick browse of the Buying + Selling forums, it seems other well known buyers/sellers get away with it CONSTANTLY.

If you are going to BAN me on my first offence in 4+ years on Sythe.org, the longest standing gold seller on the website by a factor of at least 3, you should sure as hell be applying the same punishments across the board. I won't point out any names in specific, but I have reported some posts and I expect these people are treated in the EXACT same manner I was. Let's cut the bias and the favoritism here. It's ridiculous.

And to specify, I have no problems with the people I reported. They are actually friends. But we are competing for the same customers and I am sick of being disadvantaged because some moderators have "buddies" in the Gold Exchange.

 

I 100% agree with this , I see multiple Buyers/Sellers bumping within a small time limit and claiming there previous bumps didn't register and other things along those lines , And im sure over the months they would gather atleast 3 infractions , But i've yet to see any of them temped yet.

 

The rule is one bump per 8 hours. Just letting you know.

Next time, please read the announcements (Nick posted an announcement with the bumping rule change) before reporting a bunch of posts.

 

What I don't understand is, as gold buyers/sellers, when a customer asks us to post on our thread quoting them as a response, aren't we allowed to do so? I mean yes it's considered a bump but it's a safety measure requested by the buyer...

 

As you said, it was a mistake, and was overturned. You won't get banned for your first offense, if you didn't have any previous warnings or infractions. I don't see favoritism, to be honest. Even when I moderating, I'd infract my friends if I need too. Just report the users who are violating the rule, they'll be punished according to their offense. Also, I'm not sure if you know this, but the bumping rule has been amended: http://sythe.org/announcement.php?f=375.

 

If you're referring to me with the bump not registering, Fishyfish noticed that my bump did not register and instead brought my thread to the previous post's place in time in the forum, therefore I bumped it again (5 minutes after the original bump) with permission from two mods to do so.

 

Same has happened to me, I don't know why it happens because on your user prof it says "last post was blah" which is 2 minutes ago but there is no bump on the thread.

 

R2, you and Anne should not post when it is not needed, like ''online, taking orders'' for example, and everything will be fine.

 

Sorry bout that reference and yes i was referring to you , If for some reason it did not actually register and mod's allowed you to bump again then i apologize and withdraw my statement

 

That's a perfectly fine bump if it's past the 8 hour timespan though. That's what most of us say when we're doing more trades, "Online for more purchases."

 

Yeah, but I have noticed that some people, including Anne, were saying it more than once per 24 hours.
And when the rules where changed, they were doing the same. R2, just let Anne know this if she does not.

Good luck selling guys, play nice.

 

You are egregiously mistaken, R2Pleasant. The only group we prefer are people who follow rules, which is not favoritism at all. I don't care if someone uses his second post ever to violate the rules, or if it his 50,000th post. The rules are clearly posted at the top of the Sythe.org homepage, which were "bumped" to announce the amendment. Also, a GLOBAL announcement was made to announce the bumping rules were changed. The reason you are the only one being forumbanned is not because we hate you; it's because you are the only one violating the rules.

NONE of us have the time to stalk you and your employee personally, so please drop the victim act. There are millions of posts in the Runescape Market section and nearing a half-million posts in Gold Exchange alone. This is a lot of posts to have to muck through, and the simple fact is that we don't patrol each and every thread on a daily basis. The only thing you may have been punished for were reported posts, which we are obligated to answer according to the rules. If your posts were reported and were in violation, you received the punishment that was outlined.

 

Firstly; Every sythe.org member is bound to the rules, including staff members.. so your '4 year record' means nothing when it comes down to punishment, you speak about favoritism yet you complain about being banned, which is a rule.. what do you want, not to be banned, surely thats showing favoritism to you?

The bumping rule over the past month or two has been amended several times, almost every time there has been an announcement, which is more than considerable warning of the rule change, its up to you and your employee to make sure they're following the rules. You know how it works, R2.. you've enforced the rules yourself, Im pretty sure you'd have had no holding back infracting/forumbanning someone from Gold Sales if they had broken the rules.

Unfortunately though you decided to pursue the path that staff have been 'personally' after you and that they are indeed helping their friends in the gold sales section, which is absurd, actually. You know that kind of level of unfairness doesn't exist, instead you're posting this, like some of your other threads, for shock value.. most of this post is bloated to look bad, lets be real, you're not 'scared' to post at all.

Review the rules and there will be no problem: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=148431

 

I agree ridiculous thing going on with mods, I got 3 infractions for bumping but there's a mod bumping every god damn time and i pmd him he said
If someone posts on your thread it counts as a bump, this is only to make sure he sells more than me.

 

Stating posts without proof, which mod is bumping 'every god damn time'.

Also, that is correct.. its in the rules, check them: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=148431

 

People who are complaining about the bumping rule being unfair, here it is in a slightly more simple form:

You may not post twice in a row before 8 hours have passed. However, we won't limit you from responding to legitimate buyer questions and feedback--as long as your response is also legitimate and doesn't count as a double post. Censorship on that level is, to be frank, completely inappropriate.

Hopefully this clears it up. Nobody is being considered a favorite in this case; the problem is probably more a misunderstanding of the rule.

 

Go R2!!! I understand everything your saying broski and I feel for you, I hope this gets worked out and they say "Theres no mercy for the ones at the Top" Quote T.I. lol

And just for my understanding, I thought the bump rule was every 24 hours, and now im reading its every 8 hours? So I can bump my thread every 8 hours instead of 1 bump a day?

 

It seems as though the bumping rule is EXTREMELY SPECIFIC now, with incredibly harsh punishments.

1 month ban from the relative forum for 4 offenses of bumping a thread within 8 hours?

I have personally have had 3 bumping/spamming infractions before the rule ammendments, which were subsequently reversed due to misinterpretation by either the issuing mod, or the listing of the rule being too vague to cover the nature of my post.

Too specific, or not specific is what the bumping rule seems to have been.

I think the responding to legitimate buyer questions/feedback should not be allowed as it is too easy to get around that whilst giving yourself a free bump. Pm's should be used for this if really necessary.

Exapmle: When I was infracted (and reversed yet again) for posting confirmation on my thread for a user without a sythe accuont talking to me on msn, one mod thought of it as a cheat bump, the other as a security measure.

 

Reading Arcus' post it seems to be that some things need to be looked at on a case basis, as I am sure most are. Things that don't need to be looked at on a case basis, in my opinion, would be "Open!", "Buying(selling) gold now!", "Online!" or anything that would fall into the non-useful post category unless your specific bump period has passed. This post was unfair towards the staff and seems like an attention seeking thing. As I believe Karl said, if they were to give a special privilege just because of a 4 year record would be showing favoritism.

 

Were you aware that the rule had changed ?

K.O.