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  1. Unread #161 - Feb 9, 2008 at 3:19 PM
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    Christianity is false

    Can you back that statement up empirically?
     
  3. Unread #162 - Feb 11, 2008 at 6:31 PM
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    Christianity is false

    Also, how can one be forgiven for sins "only through Jesus's blood"? I thought all humans were created equal, and that human sacrifice was wrong. How could he "deserve to die to save humanity for their sins"? How could everyone be forgiven for their sins through him, if he was only a human being? I thought only through atoning for your sins and asking the lord for forgiveness. How could he be "the son of God"? Where are records from exactly around the time he lived outside of the New Testament (Written by apostles over 60 years after his death, anyways seems a long time for an eyewitness to die?) stating he claimed that he was the "Son of God"?
     
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    Christianity is false

    A person can only receive forgiveness through prayer; God.

    Human sacrifice is wrong. Jesus died for our sins, therefore making it a reason to sacrifice himself.

    He is a part of God.

    That's the only way you can ask for forgiveness, what person told you otherwise?

    Still believe? I'm a Christian, and it's either Gods judgment if we go to Heaven or hell. There is no 'Let me purify your soul'.

    He died to make it possible to ask for forgiveness; he is our bridge between Earth and Heaven.

    Care to expand on your opinion?
     
  7. Unread #164 - Feb 11, 2008 at 10:56 PM
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    Christianity is false

    That's not what the Bible says.

    Jesus dying for our sins = human sacrifice.

    He didn't claim to be God, but rather, to be the Son of Man.

    Surely a perfect God would have created a more realistic religion?

    Also, if God is all-powerful, all-loving, and all-knowing, then he knew exactly what would happen when he created this world. Yet, there is a contradiction. An all-loving God would not want us to be harmed, or to endure superfluous suffering.

    If God is all-powerful, he can do anything. Can he make 2 + 2 = 5?

    If God is all-powerful and all-loving, can he be cruel, and torture all of humanity to death?

    If God is so mighty, wise, etc., how can we have a personal relationship with him?
     
  9. Unread #165 - Feb 11, 2008 at 11:15 PM
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    Christianity is false

    Well could you point out specifically where it says that? Rather than possibly believing in the media.

    Technically, the guards are the ones that put him on the cross. Jesus didn't say 'Hey guys, put me on a cross and nail me because I want to save the whole world'.

    If we were not to be harmed by anything, we would be perfect. According to God, nobody on Earth is perfect. If he wanted us to be immortal, we would be in Heaven.

    He could, but that would corrupt nature. He knows how our life is going to go, and a fish is not going to fly into my hand when I say 1+1=Fish. The human mind can't imagine the situations like as you said:

    "If God is all-powerful and all-loving, can he be cruel, and torture all of humanity to death?"

    It's hard to imagine infinite peace in Heaven. Wow my soul resting in heaven for eternity?

    In science, when you try to prove something, you need all facts right? No man on Earth is ever going to know about God all the way.
     
  11. Unread #166 - Feb 11, 2008 at 11:36 PM
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    Christianity is false

    "I am the way, the truth, and the light. No-one comes to the Father except through me."

    "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son..."

    God had a son, and he planned his execution.

    Or perhaps God just wouldn't want us to be harmed. Yet, the all-loving God intentionally arranged for us to experience each iota of the pain we receive on a daily basis.

    He can't, actually 2 + 2 = 4. They are one and the same. To say that it equals 5 is a logical contradiction, which is impossible.

    I'm not talking about Heaven. My point was this: If God is all-powerful, he should be able to do anything. Yet, if God is all-loving, he cannot do that.
     
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    So Jesus was murdered? So the guards murdered him so he could forgive humans of their sins? I thought the guards were the bad guys.

    So basically God screwed us up intentionally when making us and is punishing us with an eternity in hell.

    I don't know about you, but I would get pretty bored if all I did was rest for eternity.
     
  15. Unread #168 - Feb 12, 2008 at 12:03 AM
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    Actually, if the Christian God really did exist, then all mathematical equations would be invalidated since He can create anything out of nothing. But since every event that so far occured in the known Universe satisfies mathematical laws, then the chances of that happening would be very close to 1 in infinity. So by pure chance, God can't exist.
     
  17. Unread #169 - Feb 12, 2008 at 12:11 AM
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    Christianity is false

    I find it offensive what you said. You have no absolute proof and there is no absolute proof that you are wrong. I am not christian but I don't think anyone should be aloud to say someone elses faith is wrong.

    What do you believe in...
     
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    Christianity is false

    If a being existed capable of creating literally something out of nothing, then yes, you're right.
     
  21. Unread #171 - Feb 12, 2008 at 12:21 AM
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    Christianity is false

    Jesus would have to die either way. To this situation, the guards had to do their jobs. Who knows if they did like Jesus or not?

    That question could be restated "Why did God create us?". We do not know. Not all information is suppose to be revealed.


    Humans are not the same as Souls. A Human has the emotion 'bored'. Souls are different.

    I said that in my earlier post...
    "A person can only receive forgiveness through...God."


    That's why I said it would corrupt nature, and everything will be imbalanced.

    That was an example to my explanation; It is hard to comprehend what I would be like to live in an eternal place of peace or fire.
     
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    Shredder, thats the basis of religion.. that there is something greater, capable of doing what we cant.

    No matter what you believe, you do so by faith.

    Evolution... if youd have faith in 1 in almost infinite odds, be my guest.
     
  25. Unread #173 - Feb 12, 2008 at 12:22 AM
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    Christianity is false

    The thing is, though, it's logically impossible. It's a self-contradiction.
     
  27. Unread #174 - Feb 12, 2008 at 12:32 AM
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    Christianity is false

    God didnt in fact mention the trinity, the trinity was a revised copy made by someone else. Although saying jesus is false cannot be justified, you cannot take away someones beleifs only they can choose what is right or wrong. I do beleive jesus is real and would be willing to die for it without any proof or facts.
     
  29. Unread #175 - Feb 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM
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    Christianity is false

    Now THAT scares the shit outta me
     
  31. Unread #176 - Feb 12, 2008 at 12:53 AM
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    Christianity is false

    Wana fight over it? Ill meet you somewere bring a weapon, jesus is real and I am willing to die for this beleif, Iraqies die for there causes.
     
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    Christianity is false

    But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. (Luke 6:27:28)

    you may now go ask for forgiveness lmao
     
  35. Unread #178 - Feb 12, 2008 at 9:09 AM
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    Christianity is false

    Who even said Jesus was false? First of all, the Trinity isn't even a book, so you fail. I do believe Jesus was one of the lord's messengers. However, I dispute your beliefs about him. I think he is only a human being born through a virgin birth, there have been records of virgin birth amongst other animals. If God really is all powerful, I don't see why not. So some of you are saying that God split himself into Jesus and his spirit so that's why you worship them and look to them for forgiveness?
     
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    Christianity is false

    BUMP ALL OF YALL I AM CHRISTIAN AND JESUS IS TRUE SO EVERYONE WHO IS READING THIS GOD IS TRUE AND HE DIDNT HAVE TO WRITE IT...HE COULD TELL YOU WORD FOR WORD IF HE WANTED TO!SO BUMP YALL!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Christianity is false

    Jesus Is The Way Of Life I Am Willing To Fight Over My Beleif To!
     
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