Can someone define the bumping rule?

[Grave]

Hi. I'd like these questions answered by an administrator if possible. Some have obvious answers, but I want it to be fully clarified since it is not on the rules.

Is deleting your post and reposting considered bumping?
How often can you delete and repost?
How often can you bump?
For threads with multiple sellers, how does this rule change?
Are updates on stock, online/offline, considered bumping?
Are vouches considered bumping?
Do you have to combine vouches if they're after one another?

I would like very strict answers. It just seems like every moderator has his own rules and opinions on the matter.

 

[Travis]

Is deleting your post and reposting considered bumping? Yes
How often can you delete and repost? Once a day or until caught.
How often can you bump? once every 24 hours
For threads with multiple sellers, how does this rule change? stays the same
Are updates on stock, online/offline, considered bumping? I doubt it as it is considered continuing the convo
Are vouches considered bumping? No
Do you have to combine vouches if they're after one another? No

 

Is deleting your post and reposting considered bumping?: Yes.
How often can you delete and repost?: As many times as long as you delete your previous post. The point of infracting excessive bumping is that it adds unnecessary post count and spams the thread.
How often can you bump?: Once every 24 hours. (or more if you delete the previous post)
For threads with multiple sellers, how does this rule change?: One bump between all of you guys.
Are updates on stock, online/offline, considered bumping?: Yes.
Are vouches considered bumping?: No.
Do you have to combine vouches if they're after one another?: I don't get it.

 

[Travis]

Is deleting your post and reposting considered bumping?: Yes.
How often can you delete and repost?: As many times as long as you delete your previous post. The point of infracting excessive bumping is that it adds unnecessary post count and spams the thread.
How often can you bump?: Once every 24 hours. (or more if you delete the previous post)
For threads with multiple sellers, how does this rule change?: One bump between all of you guys.
Are updates on stock, online/offline, considered bumping?: Yes.
Are vouches considered bumping?: No.
Do you have to combine vouches if they're after one another?: I don't get it.

Ive been told off for deleting a re posting so you guys need to make a group discussion on that and get a concrete answer.

 

Is deleting your post and reposting considered bumping?: Yes.
How often can you delete and repost?: As many times as long as you delete your previous post. The point of infracting excessive bumping is that it adds unnecessary post count and spams the thread.
How often can you bump?: Once every 24 hours. (or more if you delete the previous post)
For threads with multiple sellers, how does this rule change?: One bump between all of you guys.
Are updates on stock, online/offline, considered bumping?: Yes.
Are vouches considered bumping?: No.

I agree/follow those answers.

 

[n4n0]

Is deleting your post and reposting considered bumping?: Yes.
How often can you delete and repost?: As many times as long as you delete your previous post. The point of infracting excessive bumping is that it adds unnecessary post count and spams the thread.
How often can you bump?: Once every 24 hours. (or more if you delete the previous post)
For threads with multiple sellers, how does this rule change?: One bump between all of you guys.
Are updates on stock, online/offline, considered bumping?: Yes.
Are vouches considered bumping?: No.
Do you have to combine vouches if they're after one another?: I don't get it.

I go by the same thing except I'm guilty of, and I allow others the occasional stock updates, as long as they aren't like every other sale. I normally try to space mine a minimum of a few hours apart.

 

[Warlace]

This is complete fucking bullshit. Blupig infracted me for apparently " Deleting posts ". Everytime I bump my thread I delete my previous post. I was doing that and Blupig infracts me this is bullshit.

 

See the reason why I disagree with allowing the delete and repost technique is because you'll always have the same threads on the first page, it won't give a chance to the other sellers who aren't monitoring their thread 24/7.
If we were to completely and officially support this, might as well just include a bump button to take away the hastle

 

[uselesspoop]

See the reason why I disagree with allowing the delete and repost technique is because you'll always have the same threads on the first page, it won't give a chance to the other sellers who aren't monitoring their thread 24/7.
If we were to completely and officially support this, might as well just include a bump button to take away the hastle

i agree with this.

if someone's thread is unpopular and he continues using the delete and repost method it'll only waste space on the first page

 

[Spyike]

In short, bumping is any effort and/or action by a member to increase his thread's positioning in a forum more than once in a 24-hour period. This is what I always thought of the rule.

 

[Alteranz]

Regardless of whether or not you delete your previous bump, posting a bump is still only allowed once every 24 hours - this is not to be abused and done multiple times in one day. My reasoning was that it created an unfair advantage to those traders, and if we were allowed then that means I could constantly make my thread number one in it's section without punishment - effectively I could almost make my thread close to that of a sticky.

 

[liermam]

thanks for the update!

 

[KerokeroCola]

I posted about this in the Staff Lounge to remove the ambiguity of how often you can delete-bump without "abusing" it. A market announcement will tell the decision when we come to one.

 

[Mordafrem]

Anyone have an answer to this?

According to this thread:
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=657545
Deleting/bumping is not against the rules. Only thing is I don't know if that thread is in the archives because it's old, or because you guys decided that it's now against the rules.

 

Anyone have an answer to this?

According to this thread:
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=657545
Deleting/bumping is not against the rules. Only thing is I don't know if that thread is in the archives because it's old, or because you guys decided that it's now against the rules.

It isn't against the rules as long as you wait 24 hours between bumps. Deleting your bumps doesn't reset the 24 hours, but if you do it to keep your thread organized, more power to you.

 

[Mordafrem]

It isn't against the rules as long as you wait 24 hours between bumps. Deleting your bumps doesn't reset the 24 hours, but if you do it to keep your thread organized, more power to you.

So that's the official rule? Because Hahanerd and Nick say differently:

How often can you bump?: Once every 24 hours. (or more if you delete the previous post)

 

[Beav3r]

Thanks for making this.. When I tried the result was, confusion.

 

So that's the official rule? Because Hahanerd and Nick say differently:

Look at the dates of the post.

Apparently the rules have changed. Personally, I think we should go back to the traditional system. If you're more active on Sythe, great, feel free to bump your thread when you're on. Don't be excessive about it (doing it 5+ times a day), but 2-3 is reasonable. That's not how we're doing it as of now.

The current ruling is: 1 bump per 24 hours regardless of whether you delete the posts.

 

[KerokeroCola]

Look at the dates of the post.

Apparently the rules have changed. Personally, I think we should go back to the traditional system. If you're more active on Sythe, great, feel free to bump your thread when you're on. Don't be excessive about it (doing it 5+ times a day), but 2-3 is reasonable. That's not how we're doing it as of now.

The current ruling is: 1 bump per 24 hours regardless of whether you delete the posts.

I feel this current rule is extremely unfair to the active sellers on Sythe. Relative to the time spent online, you're giving scammers and inexperienced, non-dedicated salesman a lot of advantage in the market. Basically, a dedicated GP seller will be online for 6-10 hours and most non-dedicated sellers only for an hour, max. Allowing people to delete-bump was a great compromise because it allows dedicated sellers to be mixed into every "generation" of the non-dedicated but not give them an unfair postcount advantage. In the end, the dedicated salesmen are the ones who attract more attention and rise the overall experience on Sythe, so I can only seeingthia hurting the site.

Oh well, I suppose. I'll submit to this new rule, but I would still like to see some notification of us users when the interpretation changes. I had a PM and a post saying, "Watch the excessive bumping," but I had no idea the rule meant delete-bumping as well until just now.

 

[Sin666]

I feel this current rule is extremely unfair to the active sellers on Sythe. Relative to the time spent online, you're giving scammers and inexperienced, non-dedicated salesman a lot of advantage in the market. Basically, a dedicated GP seller will be online for 6-10 hours and most non-dedicated sellers only for an hour, max. Allowing people to delete-bump was a great compromise because it allows dedicated sellers to be mixed into every "generation" of the non-dedicated but not give them an unfair postcount advantage. In the end, the dedicated salesmen are the ones who attract more attention and rise the overall experience on Sythe, so I can only seeingthia hurting the site.

While you are not allowed to bump more than every 24 hours, you can, effectively, get others to bump it for you, by asking customers to vouch for (or simply acknowledge) sales in your thread.

Thus, while bumping is restricted in order to give new sellers a chance, 'dedicated sellers' still have an advantage, and shouldn't have a problem running their services.

(I'd also probably argue that scammers would be willing to devote quite a bit more time to delete-bumping than legitimate sellers; after all, they have no orders to fill.)