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Burntish Twc Dispute

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Link to/reason for TWC: I told someone to meet me at a given loaction and trade me his Rs07 gp that he needed swapped over to Rs3. When i said this he said he would feel more comfortable using a trusted MM from sythe which i agreed upon. I then logged onto Rs3 and noticed I didnt have enough Rs3 gp to complete the transaction which i let him know of at that instant. Unfortunately he thought i was attempting to scam him and the next day I had the twc tag. (Not changing my wording because there is nothing to change.)

List of vouches since receiving TWC:

Swapped 12m 07 for 78m Rs3, Very good, fast swapping. 100% Legit.
I Traded first, and would do again. Top Swapper!!

Vouch. 2m 07 for 12m rs3

Swapped 33M OSRS for 214.5M RS3. 100% legit.

12m 07 for my 90m eoc, fast trades and response

Swapped 15m rs3 for 1.7m 07RS i Traded first fast and easy swaps ! 1000% legit

swapped me i went first but he didnt trust me altho i had x5 vouches- good guy tho legit ty

Vouch for Burntish, swapped my 2m 07 gp for 13m EOC so i could buy bonds, i went first he is fast and smooth, much love

Great swapping services, I went first with a little trust but they build my trust :) I swapped about 13-14mish rs3.

vouch
i went first sold 10m 07 quick.

Super Legit and awesome personality.
Very reliable and really quick.
I don't do this with anyone else unless he's on!
:D much love,
Sasu Kita

vouch. swapped 10m 07 for 65m rs3 100% legit went first :)

Swapped 5m rs3 to 588k rs 07. Great swapper, trustable!

vouch for burntish
traded first 2m eoc for 07 gold
very reliable, top swapper

Yoo, i had some cash left on rs3 and decided i want to play 07, wondering if i could swap cash, ive heard lots of cc's scam, although i swapped a few times already, this one is totally legit, id bet all my cash on their legitmatily, thats again for the 75m swap in total bro! <3

vouch sold him 7m gold, i went first will use again a++

vouch dis noob swapped for me ty

trained from 35-40 on my obby mauler. VERY fast! 10/10!
Will order again!

swapped me 50m EOC Thanks he went first!

Sold 10m i went first -- fast reliable

Did a few agility levels for me, thanks.

Quick, easy and a good exchange rate. Vouch!

Vouch for Burntish - 4.3 07 swapped for EOC no problems

Vouch for Burntish. Sold him a private script for his CC. Thanks! :)

Swapped 07 for eoc. Very trustworthy and fast. No problems

Bought 67M 07 off him ,cheers

Vouch for Burntish. Swapped 3.85M 2007 for 25M RS3. Thanks!

Vouch, setup my VPS in ~10 minutes, was very helpful with the whole thing, and walked me through the process of how to view it on my end. Will most definitely use him again when the time comes.

Sold him a siganture, everything went smoothly :)

sold him level 30 euw went smooth

3m RS3 swapped for 07 Really nice service and was very fast also.

Thanks!

he wapped 1m 07 for 6.5m rs3

I traded first
7.5m rs3 - 1m 07
Fast service, no complications.
Will use again.

Vouch swapped my 1m rs3 into 07

Vouch swapped 3m rs3 into 07 smooth and fast.

vouch. 45m rs3 --> 6m rs07. very polite, timely, no bs. trustworthy guy. would swap again. cheers

Vouch bought bond from him :)

Bought a bond

sold me bond quick and fast ty!

Swapped his 10m 07 for my rs3. He went first ;)

Bought 2 bonds

Swapped his oldschool GP!

bought 1 bond for 1.4 mil. Was quick and courteous, thanks bud ;)

Vouch , sold us 25m 07 gold . thanks

easy 20m eoc swap, was fast and friendly, will swap with again

Bought 2 bonds, thanks ;) :p

bought two bonds :) big vouch, thanks again.

sold 2 bonds i went first thanks alot :)

Vouch swapped my 1.2m rs07gp

sold me 20m 07 vouch

sold me 17.5m 07 thanks!

bought 35m 07 from him, ty!

Vouch i trust traded him my rs07bank and he gave back
Hes trusted!

Massive vouch for Burntish. Purchased a VPS from him. Service was great, communication was excellent and he went above and beyond to help me set it up on my mac despite this not being his native operating system. Can't ask for any more than that. Quality addition to the sythe community. Thanks again my friend.

legit and safe to trade i went first with 5m 07 and 5m eoc for a bond and tribot credits and allreceivedthanks

bought a bond off him very fast and reliable will purchase more in the future!

Sold me 20M 07! Thanks man :D - www.Runescapegoldmarkt.com

Bought a bond went well!

Vouch for burntish! bought a bond now!:)

This is a nice straight up guy:noworry:
Beside that fact that he was professional and fast he is personal and shouldn't be tagget with a Twc.

just epic godly horny swapping and shizzle :nuts: peace bro's!!!

A+ x &#8734; (for the math geeks amongst us)

trade details:
My 15m 07 to his EoC^_^

vouch. bought more bonds off him! easy and fast

Reasoning/explanation for sketchy behaviour leading to TWC: Human Error/ My Stupidity/ Noobness towards ingame trading

Anything else you wish to say: As promised, I am back :), unfortunately last time I didn't make it because "I didn't change my wording". I'm not sure how I could possibly state the same situation 5 times over, So I didn't change my wording once again because there isn't really much else to say. I can say this though, I wouldn't ever dispute 5 times over (Been almost 3 months now), If I wasn't serious about my account.

Edit: I am also a member on other websites like tribot, and looking into others as well. I feel like its obvious that I am trying to run a legitimate business with $50 donated to Sythe, and $25 donated to tribot and looking to open up shop in other websites as well. I am adding this because I am aware that Sythe and most other big trading websites are united in dealing with banned members and they will ban you until you have been unbanned on all other websites. I hope I have gotten my point understood :).
 
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Previous TwC Dispute #1: http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1770030-burntish-twc-dispute.html
Previous TwC Dispute #2: http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1770822-twc-tag-dispute.html
Previous TwC Dispute #3: http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1775350-burntish-twc-dispute.html
Previous TwC Dispute #4: http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1781380-burntish-twc-dispute-3rd-times-charm.html
Previous TwC Dispute #5 http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1788475-twc-dispute.html

A small amount of vouches showing other people going first to you with somewhat of a big amount would solidify removal. Going to deny this one until you follow that advice. Thanks Unb4nn3d for looking in to it so thoroughly.

Have you followed this advice yet? Please highlight the trades where the other user went first.
 
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Here you go bud:

Swapped 12m 07 for 78m Rs3, Very good, fast swapping. 100% Legit.
I Traded first, and would do again. Top Swapper!!

Vouch. 2m 07 for 12m rs3

Swapped 33M OSRS for 214.5M RS3. 100% legit.

12m 07 for my 90m eoc, fast trades and response

Swapped 15m rs3 for 1.7m 07RS i Traded first fast and easy swaps ! 1000% legit

swapped me i went first but he didnt trust me altho i had x5 vouches- good guy tho legit ty

Vouch for Burntish, swapped my 2m 07 gp for 13m EOC so i could buy bonds, i went first he is fast and smooth, much love

Great swapping services, I went first with a little trust but they build my trust :) I swapped about 13-14mish rs3.

vouch
i went first sold 10m 07 quick.

Super Legit and awesome personality.
Very reliable and really quick.
I don't do this with anyone else unless he's on!
:D much love,
Sasu Kita

vouch. swapped 10m 07 for 65m rs3 100% legit went first :)

Swapped 5m rs3 to 588k rs 07. Great swapper, trustable!

vouch for burntish
traded first 2m eoc for 07 gold
very reliable, top swapper

Yoo, i had some cash left on rs3 and decided i want to play 07, wondering if i could swap cash, ive heard lots of cc's scam, although i swapped a few times already, this one is totally legit, id bet all my cash on their legitmatily, thats again for the 75m swap in total bro! <3

vouch sold him 7m gold, i went first will use again a++

vouch dis noob swapped for me ty

trained from 35-40 on my obby mauler. VERY fast! 10/10!
Will order again!

Sold 10m i went first -- fast reliable

Did a few agility levels for me, thanks.

Quick, easy and a good exchange rate. Vouch!

Vouch for Burntish - 4.3 07 swapped for EOC no problems

Vouch for Burntish. Sold him a private script for his CC. Thanks! :)

Swapped 07 for eoc. Very trustworthy and fast. No problems

Vouch for Burntish. Swapped 3.85M 2007 for 25M RS3. Thanks!

Vouch, setup my VPS in ~10 minutes, was very helpful with the whole thing, and walked me through the process of how to view it on my end. Will most definitely use him again when the time comes.

Sold him a siganture, everything went smoothly :)

3m RS3 swapped for 07 Really nice service and was very fast also.

Thanks!

he wapped 1m 07 for 6.5m rs3

I traded first
7.5m rs3 - 1m 07
Fast service, no complications.
Will use again.

Vouch swapped my 1m rs3 into 07

Vouch swapped 3m rs3 into 07 smooth and fast.

vouch. 45m rs3 --> 6m rs07. very polite, timely, no bs. trustworthy guy. would swap again. cheers

Vouch bought bond from him :)

Bought a bond

sold me bond quick and fast ty!

Bought 2 bonds

bought 1 bond for 1.4 mil. Was quick and courteous, thanks bud ;)

easy 20m eoc swap, was fast and friendly, will swap with again

Bought 2 bonds, thanks ;) :p

bought two bonds :) big vouch, thanks again.

sold 2 bonds i went first thanks alot :)

Vouch swapped my 1.2m rs07gp

Vouch i trust traded him my rs07bank and he gave back
Hes trusted!

Massive vouch for Burntish. Purchased a VPS from him. Service was great, communication was excellent and he went above and beyond to help me set it up on my mac despite this not being his native operating system. Can't ask for any more than that. Quality addition to the sythe community. Thanks again my friend.

legit and safe to trade i went first with 5m 07 and 5m eoc for a bond and tribot credits and allreceivedthanks

bought a bond off him very fast and reliable will purchase more in the future!

Bought a bond went well!

Vouch for burntish! bought a bond now!:)

This is a nice straight up guy:noworry:
Beside that fact that he was professional and fast he is personal and shouldn't be tagget with a Twc.

just epic godly horny swapping and shizzle :nuts: peace bro's!!!

A+ x &#8734; (for the math geeks amongst us)

trade details:
My 15m 07 to his EoC^_^

vouch. bought more bonds off him! easy and fast
 
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Most you've been trusted with according to these then is 15m 07 which I doubt Roary will be a fan of.

I'll offer you a support though
 
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Thanks for the support but I'm afraid you skimmed over these, as this is the biggest trade so far.

That's a vouch that was present from the time Roary told you to get higher value trades, I didn't miss it
 
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No objection here even tho i hate the bonds market
 
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I feel like you've ignored advice yet again. So I'm abstaining.
 
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I have been trying Roary. I felt like having a 15m 07 trade would be satisfactory for you. I respect your decision but am still firm about my opinion which is that I do not feel like I deserve to have a TWC tag for around 3 months for a common human error especially considering the fact that this was all new to me back then and I was simply excited about the trade I was about to do.
 
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Edit: I am also a member on other websites like tribot, and looking into others as well. I feel like its obvious that I am trying to run a legitimate business with $50 donated to Sythe, and $25 donated to tribot and looking to open up shop in other websites as well. I am adding this because I am aware that Sythe and most other big trading websites are united in dealing with banned members and they will ban you until you have been unbanned on all other websites. I hope I have gotten my point understood :).
Off-site vouches / feedback are not honored on Sythe.

However, that being said, what kind of "shops" have you tried to open on other websites?

If you're trying to be successful with business(es), why does the totality of your vouches mostly consist of bonds or trades for low amounts?
 
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My shops on other websites are of the same nature as sythe. But unfortunately the products I sell are usually of low price. Also, On tribot My VPS shop is doing well and heres the link for it:
https://tribot.org/forums/topic/430...r-cheap-packages-for-all-botters/#entry516850

As you can see from my thread these VPS's are mostly pretty cheap. I cannot really give you a solid reason for my low amount vouches as that is not in my control. I can tell you however, that bonds are in huge demand and that's why many bond sellers have a lot more bond sale vouches than of any other categories.

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If you're trying to be successful with business(es), why does the totality of your vouches mostly consist of bonds or trades for low amounts?

Again, I cannot force anyone to do bigger trades with me and it is completely understandable as it is simply not in my control.
 
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I'm sure you guys are really busy, but this is getting pretty ridiculous. Still waiting on a final verdict
 
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Does anyone have an actual reason to keep the TWC? I'll offer my support as well.

He's been waiting quite awhile.
 
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My shops on other websites are of the same nature as sythe. But unfortunately the products I sell are usually of low price. Also, On tribot My VPS shop is doing well and heres the link for it:
https://tribot.org/forums/topic/430...r-cheap-packages-for-all-botters/#entry516850
As stated above, off-site vouches / feedback are not honored on Sythe.
As you can see from my thread these VPS's are mostly pretty cheap. I cannot really give you a solid reason for my low amount vouches as that is not in my control. I can tell you however, that bonds are in huge demand and that's why many bond sellers have a lot more bond sale vouches than of any other categories.
I understand the demand for bonds, but I'd still like to see more quality vouches.
Again, I cannot force anyone to do bigger trades with me and it is completely understandable as it is simply not in my control.
I know you can't exactly "spawn" merchandise to sell or require people to do large trades with you, but if you invest more time doing MM's I think you'll easily provide the vouches we're looking for.
I'm sure you guys are really busy, but this is getting pretty ridiculous. Still waiting on a final verdict
I apologize for the wait, but I can't say for certain whether responses are indicative of being busy.
Does anyone have an actual reason to keep the TWC?
I don't have solid enough reasoning to support. I think more can be done and it doesn't seem like the TwC is affecting the business Burntish currently has.

Try and do some more MM'ing. I'll be keeping an eye out.
 
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Besides the fact that I haven't completed a single MM trade due to one partner not trusting me in almost a month and a half of having the thread up, I respect your decisions. Even though I don't fully agree with them.
 
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