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  1. Unread #1 - Mar 12, 2016 at 2:43 AM
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    Would like to propose this to the community since it got a lot of support for the LoL verified booster ranks.

    As you guys know, LoL had miniranks added in such as "verified booster", and many others.


    These ranks are essentially a symbol of knowledge and trust to people buy services- You can see every big LoL marketer with such a rank.


    Since this got a TON of support for LoL, I'd like to propose that we expand this to other markets.

    Reason why: These ranks wont be stuck on the bottom of the to-do list, Sythe or somebody can likely knock them out relatively quickly which would be great to see.

    I'll run the list I've came up with so far, if you disagree with a rank please post that specific rank, please don't just post overall no-support unless u want NONE of them added.

    Runescape Market(Services, Gold,Accounts)
    *Verified Gold Seller(Gold, can be given to major gold sellers)
    *Verified Trainer(Skilling, can be given to people like godgenisis)
    *Verified Account seller(Accounts, can be given to well trusted account sellers)
    *Verified Caper(Services, can be given to people like zuzel)


    Runescape Private Server Market(Gold)
    *Verified Rsps Player(Gold, Change "rsps player" current minirank)

    CS:GO/Steam(Games, Boosting)
    *Verified Steam Seller(Steam)
    *Verified Cs:go Booster(Cs:go)


    Digital Currency/Non Game Sale(General)

    *Verified Currency Exchanger(covers btc,pp,skrill,ppmycash,etc in one go)


    Ebooks(General):

    *Verified Ebook Seller(Can have requirements like 3 successful ebooks etc).


    Now, These are just some examples, there are obviously some markets I went over but I feel I cover'd the most actively used markets.


    As most of you know,Verified LoL boosting rank requires proof that u are indeed deserving of the rank.


    I imagine such requirements would be put in place for each one of these, from having to prove 10+ firecapes gotton for the verified caper rank to providing proof of being able to boost on cs;go for verified booster.


    I'm sure there'd be more than enough people to be able to hand out and manage such a thing, CDT can always recruit more as needed to.


    What does this promote?

    -Bigger and Active Legitimate Business trading on Sythe
    -More incentive to become involved in more markets
    -Section Activity Boosts
    -Less Scams due to people using less trusted/unknown users
    -A reward for all the hard work marketers have put in, in their various markets.
    -Perhaps more CDT activity


    This exact suggestion passed for LoL, I don't see a reason why we cant add such things to more markets.

    I can see a demand in any market you name really, and I would certainly like to see sythe reward those people who truly know their markets.​
     
  3. Unread #2 - Mar 12, 2016 at 3:11 AM
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    I'm not too sure about the whole "verifying" thing. Sythe Verified User is often used by evaders for a false sense of trust. As for the LoL ranks, they only show that you are able to boost up to a certain rank, proving that you have earned that rank yourself before. I'm seeing this as a possibility, but a bit different than your current suggestion
     
  5. Unread #3 - Mar 12, 2016 at 3:12 AM
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    As I said, modifications can be made.

    I purposely left multiple markets out and their requirements, its just a rough idea.



    Also- Saying this could be used to create a false trust by ban evaders is incorrect, each rank would have to have requirements to be met/proven, so it wouldn't be like spending $5 from a stolen paypal for svu at all.


    ALSO I KNOW I SPELLED VERIFIED WRONG IN THE TITLE ITS 3;30 AM.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Mar 12, 2016 at 2:32 PM
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    Okay, so a few questions that would need to be ironed out first:

    1) What would the requirements be? (Start with like 2 markets for an example)
    > RS Gold selling
    > RS account selling


    2) What would this rank essentially mean? (What is the goal of it)

    3) How would these ranks be distributed?
     
  9. Unread #5 - Mar 12, 2016 at 4:04 PM
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    Regarding those 2 specific markets a few ideas off the top off my head are:

    Rs Gold Selling:
    -Must provide proof of $10,000 in gold sales(ballpark)
    -Must provide proof of 100 gold selling vouches(ballpark)
    -Sythe Account must be (6) months in age(ballpark)

    Rs account selling:
    -Must provide proof of 5 accounts sold(ballpark)
    -Sythe account must be (6+) months old(ballpark)
    -Must have (10) account related vouches(ballpark)


    Couple examples I just thought of.


    2. The goal of the rank is to reward and promote legitmate trading in some markets where its quite difficult to find a legitmate trader, such as RSPS, RS Accounts, ETC.

    This would essentially be a mark of trust upon users showing that they have provided the proof I suggested above meaning they have been legitmate traders for some time, it would be a reward to them and a symbol of safety to those who are looking to trade in those markets.


    3. The rank distribution I would ideally like to fall to CDT and have them request the mini's, it would seem to fit with a CDT job and may promote activity.

    IF CDT is unwilling or unable to do this, users would have to PM administrators with their rank applications and proof to obtain such a rank.

    Not everyone meeting the requirements would necessarily get that rank,its people the CDT/admins feel deserve it/know their market well enough to get it, these would not be handed out to everyone.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Mar 12, 2016 at 4:40 PM
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    I don't know about rest of it, but i'd support the rsps market one, alot of staff running around in that section it would make trading with rsps market alot safer for some user, so i would support that :) rest I don't mind either way >.> that if mini rank is to verified your not part of any rsps staff team.
     
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    Currently it already is pretty easy to see who is very trusted in (for example) the gold market. I never go in that subsection of the forum, but just going there I can already see Boglagold, PartyPeteShop, Jimsky88 and others are very trusted. What difference would it make to add a rank to people like them, who are already very trusted and don't really need anything else to proof their trust?

    Something that I would rather like to see is to boost start-ups. Give people that are starting and have already gained a bit of trust a rank like "Beginning gold seller" or something like that. That group has something to gain with a rank and (I think) would happily try to get said rank.
     
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    Rs gold is just a market up for debate, I'm targeting the hellhole markets mainly here but all can be included.


    Also I don't think giving people a rank "new gold seller" would be beneficial, I actually think it'd hurt their sales lolz.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Mar 12, 2016 at 5:12 PM
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    No support, there is no need for any of these. The LoL verified rank is to show that the person is the rank they claim they are so they can boost people to that rank.

    There is no skill involved with any of the things you have listed, literally anyone can do them. There is no need to give a minirank for this. If anything Dunworry is right, it will create a false sense of trust and it will just be another stupid thing that people advertise in their thread titles.

    Only thing I see working in this suggestion is the CS:GO booster for identical reasons why we have a LoL verified mini.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Mar 12, 2016 at 5:14 PM
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    There's no skill involved in selling tens of thousands of dollars of gold?

    There's no skill involved in learning cryptocurrencys(the 10+ of them)?

    There's no skill involved learning how to navigate the RSPS & Rs account market?

    There's no skill involved in any of these you say?

    "Anybody can do them" Somebody go ask a bigger gold site if that's true lol.

    Spoken like a true non-marketer unfournately, thanks for your opinion though.
     
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    Just quickly scanned a few active markets and in basically every market there are a few major sellers and plenty small sellers. What good will it do to give those few major sellers, which are already very trusted, a new rank?

    For example, take Zuzel. What will he gain from a rank like "Verified Fire Cape Service" when he already has 2500+ vouches and easily stands out of the 'lesser trusted' people.
     
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    Recognition and a reward for being so legitimate and knowledgeable in his market, Flying toast's statement that none of the markets require skill is a joke, I'd take a well versed person in sythes markets over some college gaming nerd any day.

    Edit: Also notice I said the requirements are up to debate, we could make it 50+ gold selling vouches and try to help the newer people that way.
     
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    No, there isn't. I am sorry you are trying to claim what you know in the RS market as a "unique talent", but the fact of the matter is these are all something that literally any person could research for a week or two and be on a smilar level of knowledge as you. Having a "site" doesn't make you a better or worse gold-seller than anyone else, just shows you have invested more $$ upfront.

    Compare this to League, where the top 1.6% of the currently 27 million active players world-wide are D5+. Realistically, most people are going to want someone who is considered "High ELO" of D2+ which narrows that field down to 0.2% of the playerbase. So to touch on what I said before, the league verified rank actually represents skill, a skill that is NOT easily attainable.

    Training someone's woodcutting does not take skill. Buying RSGP .2 cheaper than you sell for does not take skill. Some would argue that getting a firecape takes skill, not enough to justify creating a rank for it though. If anything, this would be making it harder for new people to join the market, the very thing you were complaining about in a thread a few weeks back iirc.

    EDIT -

    Also, I don't really agree with this quote here:
    According to this thread here that goes over what the rank is, and how to get it, you will see that the mini-rank ONLY confirms the rank that they are. These ranks shouldn't be seen as a symbol of trustworthiness by any means. Someone with one of these ranks could be a god awful booster, but still deserve the minirank because that is what rank they are.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Mar 12, 2016 at 5:33 PM
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    So essentially an OMM rank targeted towards certain markets? I could see it being a possibility. Currently working and toying with it in my head.

    EDIT: The only thing I'm worried about is if it comes across as like a rank of high trust is all =\
     
  29. Unread #15 - Mar 12, 2016 at 5:34 PM
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    Not at all true, the requirements are up for debate as I've stated at least 4 times.

    I'm sure we can work around helping new and old marketers with these ranks, the general idea needs to pass before I propose specifics however.


    The ideas ur arguing I've already thought of and talked to staff about before, this is what was expected, potentially problems with WHO the system effects but not the system itself.

    I just need the idea of the system to pass and I'll put another thread up targeting specifics.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Mar 12, 2016 at 5:57 PM
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    No support as it would make it harder for new people to start out from my understanding, their's plenty of people to choose from and you don't need a mini rank to do so.
     
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    While taking a shower I came to the same conclusion as your 'edit' part. I would agree with some lower requirements. I myself have a questing service (currently on a break), having a rank for people with like 50 quest orders (note not just quest, entire orders) seems like a good idea to me.

    It should be targetted to the 'medium' size shops. Large shops could get the rank but it would be most beneficial when being 'medium' sized (50 quest orders / 50 gold selling vouches).
     
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    Official Account Seller / Official Service Provider kind of thing? Would be interesting but I'm not sure where you would draw the line as to who is/isn't able to get it.

    Other than fire capes there is no skill involved in the markets. Experience helps and some people are faster than others, but the end result of the order being completed is the same.
     
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    IIRC Sythe isn't interested in this, denied
     
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