[Amethyst] Report Lawgic

awesome hugs · Dec 2, 2013

He promised me increments and when we went to $20 the logged and said this:
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Scammed me $20 Have all screen shots:
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http://postimg.org/image/l9yove63j/

Heres convo:

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hi i can sell u 180m at 0.30
Do you have a middle man? & would you do $45?
Not willing to go much lower, $45 would be 0.25, bit ridiculous

we can find a middleman if you are willing to pay for him
TBH, idk where or how to get a MM, how much are they?
Also, I literally only have $50 atm. so...
$50 I can do 180m, you can find an mm if they have "official middle man" under their name and they usually cost around 10% of the total trade.

but just fyi, i joined about 2 years ago and just recently came back, i've done about 8 trades today totalling to over $1k. we can do in increments if you like (eg. 20M at a time) but its up to you
Hm, Yeah I was looking at your vouches... Are you willing to go first? Otherwise how am I to find a "certified" middle man on here...
No lol seeing as you have next to nothing on your account, $50 for 180 is at 0.28, so if you want we can just do increments of 30m for $8.4 until we do all 180m, provided you go first with the increments. i dont see how it would make sense for me to scam something as little as $8.4 when i have traded thousands, so[/QUOT

Alright, Just been scammed before on here so yeh... wary of everyone. Just give me 20mins?
just now? how much did he get u for and make sure u report this

Where are we meeting and what world?
world 43 ge center, we doing 30m for $8.4 first?
Pls try to resist scamming me some how ha
have you sent i dont have much time left
Sent first $8, I'm on Kila454 btw
i haven't recieved anything http://puu.sh/5zB8s.png
didnt see bottom part, said it went though now though
still nothing, have you sent to [email protected]
Yeah I took a screenie let me show you..
show me your screenshot
http://postimg.org/image/yybjbd1lh/
please confirm i'm trading with you
You've traded me, waiting for accept. c:
you want to just do $20 for 72M and then finish the rest i got 3 min left
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Okay...
so 72M and then another 72M for the total of 180m
Yes just sent $20 http://postimg.org/image/cih3nit8d/
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Laurie · Dec 2, 2013

Report the PM's please.

awesome hugs · Dec 2, 2013

The PM's? How do I do that?
PS: There was no skype convo we did all communication on here.
Thanks.

awesome hugs · Dec 2, 2013

I went ahead and forwarded you the convo on here.

Also, and advise on how I can get my money back...

Thanks..

Dave · Dec 2, 2013

Imagine this is your open PM - (this is a photo of one of my own PMs)

http://puu.sh/5AbNM/877ef1f969.jpg

See that button on the top right?

http://puu.sh/5AbPg/6b306cf459.png

Click that and it should take you here -

http://puu.sh/5AbQp/b9c73f5898.png

In that body, type in "requested for scam report http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=12988256#post12988256"

and submit the report. Then we'll be able to see the full PMs sent by you two.

Dave · Dec 2, 2013

PS, thank you Divica for being my photo dummy .

awesome hugs · Dec 2, 2013

There was no open Pm.. He just Pm'd me automatically like i asked in the post.... I can screenshot my PM convos if you'd like.

Dave · Dec 3, 2013

Ame, here's a PM for you from Lawgic

Lawgic said:

Hi, I would like to provide you with some details about my supposedly scam attempt last night, and some points on why I did not scam.

Some background information, our deal was originally my 180M EOC gold for her $50 USD, averaging about $0.28 per mill. We came to the conclusion to first do 30M for $8.4 USD and see where it would go from there.

In the first piece of evidence that awesome hugs has provided, it can be seen that she only had 32M in her pouch at some given point in time. This in indeed true, 30M of it was from the first increment of our trade and the remaining 2M was probably just her own cash. However, what I infer really happened was that between the first and second increments ($8.4 and $20 payments respectively), she went and banked her cash and then came back to our trading spot, the GE fountain. I cannot prove this because I was not looking at my RuneScape window at the time, as my internet connection is not the greatest and it takes time to go back and forth between Paypal, Sythe, and RuneScape, but her piece of evidence clearly does not prove that I did not pay her what she bought for $20.

Although I do not have any evidence that I did pay her the 72M for the second increment as I did not think this trade would be a problem, I can tell you what happened and why she is taking this chance to try and scam 72M off me. Right after I recieved the second payment of $20, my internet connection got even worse and I immediately payed her the 72M (again, no proof of this because of the above reason). I thought my internet was definetly too unstable to continue the trade, so I gave her the 72M and logged off. 1 or 2 minutes later, my internet completely went out and I did not get the chance to message anyone.

About an hour later I log on to find a new message from her in my inbox. Our conversation afterwards can be found here:
http://puu.sh/5AqR7.png

I dont know why she is doing this but I can assure that I did indeed pay the 72M along with the 30M from the first increment, and although the trade was not finished I owe her nothing and she is trying to take advantage of my immediate disappearance following the second increment of the trade to get her money back. She has thretened to report my on here and the actual RuneScape game, which is dumb because both of our usernames can be seen in her piece of evidence, and file a dispute on Paypal which I will raise to a claim because I know that I am right.

Please look over the case one more time and make your judgment accordingly.

Thank you,

Lawgic
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awesome hugs · Dec 3, 2013

First off he has no proof and that should automatically be a red flag. secondly if he wants trying to scam me why would he say this right after he logged on me after I sent the $20? LOL

http://postimg.org/image/qngh63ou1/

Secondly as I've shown my proof he also was taking screen shots. As one of your long term members he would know to take proof shots. He cannot provide them because he never traded me the 72M. I actually just did a flawless trade with Horse earlier today and she took all the precautions necessary as did I so this would not happen.

All I want is either the 72M or $20 refunded so I can take my business else where.

Edit: notice I have to enter my bank pin after he logs. How can I deposit 72M into my bank without a pin.

awesome hugs · Dec 4, 2013

any word...?

Laurie · Dec 19, 2013

I'll need to see the full conversation before I can do anything, sorry.

What you've provided me isn't enough proof to do anything.

Laurie · Dec 23, 2013

Locked. Try again.

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