BBC World Trade Center 7 Video

[Faskist]

Paetheon, Venezuela is a capitalist society. They just got rid of all of the big corporations that the US had established over there.

That's Communism.

 

[Phaethon]

Paetheon, Venezuela is a capitalist society. They just got rid of all of the big corporations that the US had established over there.

Democratic Socialism FTW Lawl.

 

[Annex]

How is that "the facts".

PURE speculation. Start presenting some REAL QUANTITATIVE EVIDENCE and I will "believe".

"While it took only about 12 seconds to destroy each building" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center paragraph 12, Sentence 3)
How the fuck could a building SO TALL collapse in so little time. The Sampoong department store collapse TOOK HOURS before it collapsed and it was not even close to being up to the Building code of the world trade center.

The buildings were 1008 (326.121m) ft tall (not including antenna and observation deck) each and it took 12 seconds to collapse . I generally would have thought that the floors below would have been strong enough to stop the free fall of the top level albeit whether they would later collapse or not. I simply couldn't believe such a building to fall at such a speed. Its uncomprehesable to me. Make yourself a large card house. Collapse the top level. It will never freefall it always is slowed down or stopped by other levels. Now try blow the level below the one that is currently collapsing and notice the speed increase. Resemble anything? Ya thats most likely what happened on 9/11.

There were many witness reports on 9/11 that say they heard explosions as the tower collapsed. Why would they make it up? These were people who could have died in there. It was probably engraved in their mind to torment them for many years of their lives. "16 percent of polled American adults speculate that the World Trade Center was destroyed by controlled demolition, not by the effects of the airplanes" (Hargrove, Thomas and Guido H. Stempel III. "Anti-government anger spurs 9/11 conspiracy belief", Scripps Howard News Service, August 2, 2006). The fact that when polled by an Australian journalist OVER 3/4 of the people HAD NO IDEA about anything their government was doing and that they would support them into a war with a foreign country based on no cause astounded me. The 16% that said so are obviously the informed part of America are obviously the more informed part.

IF you seriously think that it was a "Terribly Tragidy" and should be left alone. Then prove why there is the remains of Thermite enhanced with sulfur at the bottom of ground zero. Thermite HAS NO USE in building other than demolition. It can rip through steel in less than a second when ignited. That would weaken the floors so much that even the slightest force downwards could collapse the floor and would need the heat of an explosion to ignite it.

If you simply are going to post something in response to this like "Its impossible xxxx reviewed what happened and said it pancaked" Then you deserve to live in the police state America is going to become.

 

[Yakov]

I agree with Phaethon here. I think it's all conspiracy bull crap. My dad personally witnessed the event, and there were no "bombs" the plane actually crashed and that is what ACTUALLY made the buildings fall. This part I can debunk for fact, since I have a reliable eye witness (my dad). The fact that BBC said that the building had already fallen was probably because they had false information, and it was probably just a mistake. Can this be exploited into proving that the conspiracy theory exists? Yes, do I believe its a conspiracy? Nope.

 

[Shinoda]

Ethan, that is a debatable issue. Some people LIKE capitalism.

I do think however, that we will be going to war with Iran, not Venezuela though. Well, not in the near future anyway. This is all a moot point anyway, this is supposed to be about the alleged "conspiracy".

EDIT:


Please explain some characteristics of "people like me". I don't appreciate that type of labeling.

EDIT (again):

I just found something I HAD to share.

People like you don't try and educate themselves.
People like you have no opinions of their own.
People like you have no idea they are being spoon fed bullshit.
People like you are afraid to think for themselves.
People like you make me sick.

 

[Sin666]

Oh shit, not another one of these -.- I knew there was a reason I hated your links Repent

The whole conspiracy theory is BS. Google probably removed it because of all the controversy it sparked in the first round, and because they don't want to lose consumer confidence by being affiliated with that nonsense.

If you're really a conspiracy fanatic, then there are plenty of forums where you can argue your side, and get shut down. Sythe doesn't need another 20-page thread of 14-year old kids parroting the "specialists" in the vids they've seen.

Some reading material:
Pentagon Analysis
Fairly detailed Q+A that answers most of the common conspiracy arguments about the WTC

 

[Blizzind]

Bull. Can you say edited. Just watch, there will be plenty of proof in days to come that will prove this to be fake.

Why the hell would BBC be in on your little conspiracy anyway? Hmm?

This is almost as bad as the "Australia doesn't really exist" thing >.>

Eh, you evidently haven't read up on this stuff. Yes there is a conspiracy for everything but look at this one. Go on google and watch a few of the 9/11 conspiracy videos, then come back and post.

 

[Yakov]

After you've watched the 9/11 conspiracy videos please watch the anti-conspiracy videos as well so you don't get a biased view on things.

 

[Annex]

I've watched loose change and honestly I could say more or less its nothing special and proves nothing. I've also seen most of those documentaries before on how it collapsed and I came to the conclusion that honestly the first investigation was done by someone who failed grade 9-10 physics. I feel there should be a real investigation done by a PROPERLY CERTIFIED OFFICIAL WHO LOOKS AT ALL SIDES OF THE STORY. They simply rejected the fact that it was a controlled demolition for no reason. They atleast need to explore the possibility that it was a controlled demo. To truly close a case the investigators need to have explored all possibilities to what may have happened. Their failure to do so means they incorrectly did their jobs. Now should a doctor do that, he would have his certification removed and possibly be sued. I JUST WANT THEM TO FIND THE REAL TRUTH.

 

[Zack]

I agree with Phaethon here. I think it's all conspiracy bull crap. My dad personally witnessed the event, and there were no "bombs" the plane actually crashed and that is what ACTUALLY made the buildings fall. This part I can debunk for fact, since I have a reliable eye witness (my dad). The fact that BBC said that the building had already fallen was probably because they had false information, and it was probably just a mistake. Can this be exploited into proving that the conspiracy theory exists? Yes, do I believe its a conspiracy? Nope.

Ya I remember you told me about that when I used to be on msn a lot well, all I think of it is that the news reporter wanted to be the first to get the information that it went down so, other people would watch there station to get more money for them it's kinda harsh but, that's wat probably happened...

 

[Six]

Does anyone really care anymore? Sure it was an unfortunate event, but almost everyone is over it.

 

[Annex]

Does anyone really care anymore? Sure it was an unfortunate event, but almost everyone is over it.

Tell that to people who's family died in there. I bet they aren't. Your just being an asshole to those people who died and their families. They deserve the truth.

 

[Six]

I'm not being an asshole. Am I saying "haha look at all the people dying!". No. I'm saying today's society, not persons in particular, have moved on.

 

[Drag0nSlay3r]

Venezuela is NOT a communist country!

I have been to Venezuela, It is anything but.
Hugo Chavez was ELECTED.
He is keeping his country independent. George Bush does not like Chavez's Anti-American policys that's why Bush and the American media label and systematically attack the Venezuelan government. The current Government have developed their country arguably the most than any other regime/leader. Chavez probably is that country's second greatest leader or as a person right next to Simon Bolivar. (The guy who made it independent of Spain) It is a well known fact, (seems that alot of people are ignorant of it) That America only seeks after Venezuela's supposed 'future' and how they're 'concerned' about their 'wellbeing' because Venezuela is one of the largest oil producers in the world! ...Just some food for thought... xD

Even the CIA recognizes Venezuela as a 'federal republic'.

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ve.html

More Mistakes Made:
People In Government Accidently Slipped in this Scripted False Flag Terror Plot:

1. Bush saw the first plane hit live on tv:
[URL]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4841608667647433773&q=bush+saw+1st+plane+hit+tower&hl=en[/URL] (1min)

2. Rumsfeld Says Flight 93 was shot down:

[URL]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7171005197553914151&q=rumsfeld+flight+93+shot+down&hl=en[/URL] (30sec)

3. Rumsfeld Says Missle Hit Pentagon - "Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center"
[URL="http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Missile-Not-Flight-77.html"]http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Missile-Not-Flight-77.html[/URL]

4. NYC Mayor Slips- [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hNmf76GUCw[/URL] 

5. Larry Silverstein CLAIM WTC 7 Pulled:
[URL="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=Larry+silverstein"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=Larry+silverstein [/URL]

There is also a video called '911 in plane sight'. Created by a radio station after trying to disprove the French's claim that 9/11 was a hoax, But in the process of their research they found some disturbing facts.

All the footage of those videos aren't theirs. They're from CNN, BBC and other popular News Agencies.

 

[Goon]

the movie is already removed i saw it for like 40 min ago

 

[Phaethon]

I agree with Phaethon here. I think it's all conspiracy bull crap. My dad personally witnessed the event, and there were no "bombs" the plane actually crashed and that is what ACTUALLY made the buildings fall. This part I can debunk for fact, since I have a reliable eye witness (my dad). The fact that BBC said that the building had already fallen was probably because they had false information, and it was probably just a mistake. Can this be exploited into proving that the conspiracy theory exists? Yes, do I believe its a conspiracy? Nope.

Thank you.

Shinoda:

People like you are afraid to hear other people's opinions.
People like you make premature judgments.
People like you bitch and complain, without trying to make any progressive efforts.
People like you respond to questions that were not directed at them, and need to have their small egos fed by making themselves feel important.
People like you have to talk, when in fact, no one wants to hear you talk, and for that matter doesn't give a shit.

On a side note:
This is done, over with, what is the point of constantly digging this up, and making people relive this. Believe it or not, PEOPLE WERE REALLY AFFECTED BY THIS. People died, ok. Talking about it constantly is not helping anything, or helping the survivors get over it.

 

[Annex]

Shinoda:

People like you are afraid to hear other people's opinions.
People like you make premature judgments.
People like you bitch and complain, without trying to make any progressive efforts.
People like you respond to questions that were not directed at them, and need to have their small egos fed by making themselves feel important.
People like you have to talk, when in fact, no one wants to hear you talk, and for that matter doesn't give a shit.

1st sentence is very hypocritical of yourself
2nd sentence is also very hypocritical
3rd is just a straight out lie
4th wtf that is irrelevant to what we are talking about
5th i wanted to hear him talk so its a lie.

 

[Shinoda]

I used to be of the same mindset as you are right now.
I used to absolutely hate whoever attacked this country.
I made no effort to educate myself or research this event.

Now that I have I'm having serious doubts about the cover story.
For that is exactly what it is, a cover story.

 

[Phaethon]

I do research this event. And there are far more people who are "eye witnesses" that will attest to the "cover story".

And furthermore, what is the point of arguing it anyway.

 

[miklman]

Oh God. Get off of it.

Why do people have to say "conspiracy" after every tragedy.

All you are doing is shaming those who lost their lives as either a direct result of this, or through war.

Stop it dammit! What good does speculating about this do? People are dieing, you have NO RIGHT to bitch about this. I will listen to this shit once you go to war and risk your life over your little "conspiracy".

I don't care what you people think, out of respect for others JUST STOP IT!

Don't you see? There is no way to prove it ISN'T a conspiracy, so quick-thinkers jump at things that to them are unexplainable, when in fact it can easily be explained with some further thinking. (I.E. the claim that the jet fuel couldn't melt the metal, well of course it couldn't, but you don't need to melt metal to take down a building, just weaken it.) I don't know if they claim it's a conspiracy for attention, sick thrills, anti-governmental propaganda, or because they really believe it, but it is no use fighting them. :/