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  1. chazzap

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    Safest bot right now?

    havent played for around 2 years but i was just wondering, whats the safest and easiest bot to use right now? i wont be botting excessively, just a few hours here and there.

    I was wondering this as my friend used epicbot recently and managed to get his account hacked along with his paypal account and emails... any information regarding the bots and their current states is appreciated, as i have heard about the recent updates against them.

    thanks guys.
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    No bot is safe. They all give off signs of botting, and with this so called new botnay thing. Botters are pretty much screwed.
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    but surely there are still people out there botting? if this is the case how long do you recommend not botting for?
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    for now yes, need to wait till the scripts are updated.

    you have a high ban chance atm
     
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    They are all fine, instanced ones are particularily good as you then avoid the public who get suspicious.
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    I've been botting using Powerbot for a while now and *knock on wood* I've been safe.

    I think its more what you bot than what you're using to bot.

    For instance, an account botting sorc garden is a higher ban rate than an account killing flesh crawlers.
     
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    When RiD comes back up in a week or so. It is the safest bot but it costs.

    No bans if you follow guidelines in like the last 2 years? Might be 4
     
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    I've been botting 8 hours a day with epicbot at monkfishes and no ban yet. It also depends on were you bot and which script. For example sorc garden is a higher risk. The fishing script of epicbot is pretty good but the woodcutting is not so good. For example if you cut yews at edgeville and the screen is turned towards the trees from the bank, the bot will detect the tree trying to click it while still in bank. It can get you stuck for a while there. I think that, that kind of flaws, if they happen to often, will get you banned.

    I havent seen many banns around and also the people I know that are botting still arent banned either. So as far as I know its still safe.
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    Bullshit
     
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    Correct, there is always a chance of ban. Guidelines just lessen it. But right now it is not near as safe as it used to be
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    I've been botting 10+ hours everyday. Botany Bay does not scare me.

    I have been using a free script on Powerbot. Btw.
     
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    same here, still botting for hours and hours
    i don't get that point how ppl can be scared^^
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    Don't say bullshit when its true.
    Look on the website, only bans were from people way over 8 hours a day or using other bots.

    Nice try dissing a bot you have not used yet.
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    If you take the same "guidelines" and apply them to the better scripts on simba, you basically get the same ban chance.

    Injection will always be the riskiest form of botting.
     
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    Just use powerbot. Will have a script for everything that you need and it is easy to use.
     
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    He's actually right. There has been quite literally 0 bans out of Guideline followers in over 4 years. August 10th, 2008 was the date RiD reached its current quality, and since then, like I said, there has been straight up 0 bans following Guidelines. RiD 2.0 is soon to be released, which brings everything to a whole new level.

    Guidelines lessen it, aye? More like actually obliterate the chance of ban if you're using RiD. If RiD was detectable, you'd see bans out of Guideline Followers, but there has been absolutely 0 in over 4 years. The only bans the site has ever encountered have been when Jagex Mods manually go in-game, invisible most often, and they manually go through player's play-time history and other information they have, and when they find enough information (the only information they can ever get is if you are breaking Guidelines, if you're following them, they can't find anything) they can and will ban you. And before all of the derps start to reply to this part: Yes, J Mods have the ability to be invisible, I have witnessed it while I was botting with RSBot (now Powerbot) and I had the feature on that made a dot & username pop up of any players/NPCs, and I saw a J Mod's name and a dot show up a few squares away from where I was botting, saw it move around, etc. Since I was just testing out a script on a throwaway account, I said, "Hey Mod XXX, what's up?" This made it blatantly obvious to him that I was using some form of client or software that allowed me to see invisible players/objects/etc, and I was almost immediately banned for macroing. This was back in ~2009 or so, but I've seen pictures of this same thing happening recently.

    Anyway, like I said, Guideline following doesn't just lessen the chance with RiD, it completely removes it. If Jagex could ban Guideline followers then they would have over the last 4 years, but they haven't, period.

    Again, all of the bans have been manual J Mod sweeps against Guideline Breakers; if their automated detection systems could detect it, then there would be ban reports out the ass with J Mod notes mentioning BotWatch, which none of them have.

    And this next line is for both of you: If you don't know shit about a bot or the details for how Jagex catches bots, and you don't have any statistics to back yourself up, then I highly encourage you sit the fuck down and educate yourselves before making false statements that have no credibility and have no experience or knowledge about what is being talked about. Don't talk about shit you know nothing about, as it only makes you look like a fool.

    Is that why I've seen multiple bans with private scripts, even following Guidelines? I've only been given an explanation that they were caught because they were reported.. Well no shit, reporting is how Jagex investigates and bans accounts. They can be a little slow to act on them sometimes, but that's the most common way they get people. Reporting a user using RiD means jack shit. Nothing will happen because of it. We have users come on the forums sometimes freaking out because they got reported and asking what they should do, and everyone tells them wgaf, keep botting, being reported doesn't matter. Even manual investigations, as in they come up to you in-game, even invisible, and looking at your records, do not matter if you're following Guidelines.

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    RiD (Robotz in Disguise) has never failed me. I've been using them since early 2010, and over the last 2 and a half years I've used their bots for just under 3400 hours, earned 14 99s on my main & 99 fletching on my def pure. I've gained well over 200mil exp with the bots on my main alone, not counting the 2 other accounts I've used RiD on (99 fletching + 85 mining). I've witnessed myself get reported well over 40 times, and I'm sure it's happened dozens more times considering I rarely babysit, or if I am on the computer while I'm botting, I usually minimize it or keep it in the background. Still, 2 and a half years later, no macro offenses, despite being a consistent Guideline breaker.

    It's been around since 2007, and reached its current quality on August 10th, 2008. Since then there has been 0 bans following Guidelines, and only 48 bans over these same 4 years out of the Guideline breakers. They went over a year without any bans whatsoever, even out of the Guideline Breakers and Suiciders, until 11 Guideline Breakers were picked off from manual J Mod Sweeps, because consistently breaking Guidelines leaves enough of a trace for Jagex to ban you if they are doing manual sweeps in-game. Followering Guidelines, Jagex hasn't caught a single user, even over 4 years of operation in its current form.


    Now, the bots are currently down for maintenance because RiD (the owner and only programmer) is prepping them for the release of RiD 2.0, which will be better than ever before, and is designed to stand up against a perfect automated detection system without problems. RiD releases the first bot of his that uses 2.0 technologies on Wednesday (possibly a bit later; he has a ton of new ideas he wanted to add at the last minute). I'm not sure if it will a full site release or just Veteran+ (meaning botted a minimum of 1,000 premium hours) testing until it's perfect. Either way, it is the start of the integration to the new 2.0 platform. The mods have been beta testing the new bot (that was due for release for Vet+ beta last week, and full release this week, before RiD postponed it for the work required for 2.0) and many of them are clocking 20+ hours a day, even since the Botany Bay/BotWatch update, and none of them have had any problems, nor have they been banned at all. Keep in mind that Jagex has not released BotWatch everywhere in RS yet. They are slowly and methodically turning it on in different areas of the game because they don't want to rush things and end up with a mistake like the 40,000 legit accounts being banned again. If you're using a detectable bot, then may the Gods help you once Jagex has activated BotWatch in your area. Jagex has already eliminated bots from many areas of the game, and they will be closing in on the rest as the following weeks or even months pass by. This means that eventually they will have their system activated everywhere, meaning, if it's as good as they claim it to be, will mean the elite of botting will remain, while the weak and inadequate bots crash and burn. Not to mention the fact that Jagex intends to press civil and criminal charges against the owners of Powerbot & Epicbot. The new botting era after that will be interesting once the top 2 competitors are eliminated from the botting community, just like Nexus last year. Keep in mind also that once the Optimus Bot Nuke hits (it's been postponed until an unknown time because of the recent mistake of banning legit accounts, they want to go slower until they know everything is working as intended), this will mean that the only bots remaining in the game again will be color, and most likely OpenGL (unless Optimus somehow figures out a way to fuck with OGL, which from what I've heard, is unlikely). There will be RiD, Simba, Scar, Runedream, Convinbot, Veloxbot, TriBot, and *maybe* DynaMac (if they truly will be functional after the nuke, as they claim). All of these sites have relatively small communities compared to the giants of Epicbot & Powerbot, and this means, even with the flood of injection/reflection users to these new sites, there will be tens of thousands less accounts in RS at a time, which means BotWatch will have a lot less accounts to monitor, and will have more features/areas added to it, meaning many more bans, much faster bans, and with that, a large discouragement to bot. Bots that beat the new system will be flooded with new users and this will mean a very large change among the different communities. Many are in disbelief about many claims from different sites, but only time will prove who is right.
     
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    OT: Trent, your a bit of a fanboy

    OP: I've been botting a decent ammount, haven't been banned yet, going to go with FDK soon, so if I get banned once I start doing something on an account I don't to lose I won't be pleased.
     
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    Why are you copying and pasting that stuff again Trent lol. Looks like Dynamac did survive the 'nuke'. There have been close to none bans on Villavu either. It's just about the script and how many hours you are botting. RiD has some good scripts but they aren't that much better than Simba scripts. Less people are using it -> less obvious -> ??? -> profit.
     
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    You call me a fanboy when I've botted over 3,000 hours with injection/reflection bots, and a similar 3400 hours with RiD. I've used almost every botting platform available, and I've been banned using every one I've used besides RiD. Personal experience is a bitch, ay?

    If you're going to accuse me of something, at least make sure that accusation is actually factual. I haven't copied and pasted shit, it's all been typed out.

    Anyway, you show an obvious lack of knowledge and education about botting and what Jagex has been doing to fight bots with your 2nd sentence. Botany Bay and BotWatch was NOT the nuke. That's fact, so you're straight up wrong already on that note. Jagex even stated officially that Optimus Bot Nuke has NOT been released, and that is has been in fact postponed until they've made sure BotWatch is functioning as they intended. Their main reason for postponing it is because of the accidental 40,000 legit players who were banned because of a human error. Also, your post shows ignorance for the fact that you didn't even bother reading my entire post, and if you did read it, your retention abilities are rather poor. Just because there have not been bans since Botany Bay was released does not mean that the software you're using is safe. Like I already stated in my post, Jagex has not activated BotWatch in every area of RS yet. They have activated it in the main goldfarming areas, and are slowly testing and activating it in different areas. It will takes weeks, and probably months for Jagex to completely cover all of RS with their BotWatch systems. Like I already said before, Jagex is slowing down because of the recent human error, and obviously most bots will get away fine... for now... until the point where Jagex has activated it in all areas. After that point only the elite scripts will remain untouched, and then it will be apparent who's software is the best.

    Also, you show even more lack of education about how RiD works. His bots do not act the same for every user. RiD pioneered something called 'Unique Styles' technology. When RiD designs a new bot, he doesn't code just one way of going about a task, or even two, or even three ways. He creates so many ways of going about training a certain skill that every single user is assigned a randomly generated 10-14 digit number the first time they log into each bot. These numbers are created by taking different ways of doing each task, and randomly piecing them together to give each user their own unique playing style for their bot. With 10-14 digits, that means over 1 billion possible unique playing styles for each of RiD's 12 (and soon to be 13) bots. That means if you got 1000 people to run the same RiD bot in the same location (different worlds, or the same, doesn't really matter), every user's bot would act differently, and even if Jagex looked at all of them and compared them, there would be enough of a difference that Jagex would not even think they were all using the same bot, if a bot at all. I've teamviewed literally hundreds of new users to RiD to help them set up their bots, and I've witnessed first hand that each user's bot behaves differently, even different from my own bot. This eliminates the problem of a shitton of people running the same bot as far as being detected. It's essentially the safety of using a professionally made (RiD has a 4-year degree from a very good UK university for Computer Science & Mathematics, with an IQ of 150 according to his last IQ test, and he has a regular programming job, RiD is just a hobby) private bot with the convenience of it being available for public purchase and use.

    Also, RiD's bots are not "scripts." Notice that the entire time I've been on this forums I've always referred to them as 'bots.' This is because of the fact that The bots do not follow constantly looping straight line scripts. They use a form of AI decision making processes that are operated on a server. The RiD.jar that you download acts as nothing but the eyes, mouth, hands, and arms of the bot, while the Server acts as the brain. The eyes sends back the information it sees to the server, where the server interprets this information, and uses these AI decision making processes to determine the present situation and what is the best action based on what it sees. Once it determines the best option it sends its commands back to the RiD.jar, which then follows the instructions using the arms/hands/eyes/mouth, depending on the instructions given. This means the bot is constantly checking its surroundings and making decisions based on where it is, and what its task is. A neat thing about this also is that it means that you can almost always go to a random step in the task being done, and start the bot, and it will know what to do. For example, I could start playing a game of Pest Control myself, and halfway through the round, start my PC bot. The bot would realize where it is, and start completing actions related to that; e.g. attacking a portal/monster, or running to protect the void knight, etc. This protects its users from getting stuck in a loop, with the bot constantly repeating the same action over and over again, even though its failing or not working. If the bot ever encounters something unexpected, instead of constantly looping and fucking up, it will try what it thinks is best, and if that is not successful, it will log out of RS and quit. When these things happen the user can very easily open a proper support ticket and RiD fixes it if its a bot coding issue and not a user-side issue. This also means you'll never be stuck logged into a random, fucking up.
     
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    Safest bot right now?

    Been doing the same thing with Epicbot
     
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