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  1. Unread #1 - Sep 24, 2016 at 11:04 AM
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    xseventeen17 Off-site scamming

    Here is a post someone made showing that I was "scamming" off site.

    First off I would like to start off by saying, I have been using Sythe for the several months, fairly religiously and have had 1 hick-up very recently, being framed/accused of stealing someones CSGO skin (got it resolved and is no longer a problem), but other than that, I have started a RuneScape 2007 Minigame service as well as, a VERY Successful RSPS gold/currency swapping service and I advertise sparta.rs @Zuzel111 on a monthly basis. I get 2-5 vouches a day from people they want to do business with me because they know they will have no problems.

    Secondly, to talk about the post made about me xseventeen17 Off-site scamming

    @CircleTrader added me yesterday morning, looking to do some RSPS swapping, I was away form my house working on my classwork, and I was unable to reply to the PM he sent me on Sythe. By the time I am able to get back to my laptop to continue business for the day, it was extremely late, and I just decided against it. I am assuming since I didnt reply/stopped replying on skype, he thought I was just trying to scam him, because, from personal experience, if someone ends up not replying after you handle business in a legit manor, they were probably just in it for a quick scam.

    BUT thats not how I handle my business.

    Three years ago, I was apart of the PowerBot community mainly because that was my bot of choice. I was just starting college so I needed something to play for me #noxpwaste.... I did small services on the side so I could make extra cash in the game (at this point in my life I didnt know too much about buy/sell gp for USD) so it was all used for in-game purposes. But one thing that was very repetitive was the scamming on PowerBot, I was scammed countless times by people taking advantage of my low feedback self and just taking small amounts off me. One day, and I remember it very clearly, this man added my skype and looking to sell IKOV GP, which was in high demand back then. And that day I had already been banned on Ikov for RWT and then scammed for about 15m 07, so I was a bit heated and just wanted my money back. So I did what I did and got banned for it. I didn't do anything RuneScape related for awhile after that because I didnt have money nor have a way to make money.

    I joined back on Sythe about 2 years later, which was fairly recent, and I realized how much success and profitability you can get with just professionalism and safe ways for people to trade. So I knew that if I wanted to become successful I wasnt going to be able to be upset if I got scammed while I have low vouches, and I cant just give up because I have to go first, because everyone had to start there, even @Dave and @Gracious and everyone else. SO thats what I did..

    The past 7-8 months I have done nothing but legit, professional, safe business and I have grown with it. I have people recommending me to their friends, and people coming back even if my prices are a bit too high, but they dont mind paying because they know they are going to get what they paid for without any problems. Its easy to see I have learned from my mistakes, and if I had any intention to scam, I would have done it by now because I handle alot of gold everyday, but the profit in the long run is too great to scam 5m right now.

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    Here are some pictures of me and @CircleTrader 's conversation
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    after telling him that he needs to say no more and to have a good day, he chooses to end the conversation he says this Gyazo - 8377a43a7e40940cf34b022a2aaeeb10.png

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    All that being said, I am sorry that my passed some how is showing up. I am sorry people are so paranoid that they go off site to dig up dirt. And I am sorry my name is in the dispute section again.

    I would say I will do anything it takes to prove it, but I have been doing it for the past few months. I got a decent vouch page, and plenty of people that do business with me daily, Im not going to let one person bring down my success because of my past.

    Thank you,
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  3. Unread #2 - Sep 25, 2016 at 11:44 AM
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    Add this as an update to my post. Banned xSeventeen17! [Explained - Confession]

    I looked at the scammer report, and got onto the PowerBot forums to find the guys skype account. Which I successfully found! I found him on my blocked list on Skype, but I unblocked him and am trying to get in contact with him. I owe him 5m but I think 8m would suffice (the interest built up over the years)

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    Hopefully he finds my request soon so I can repay him my debts! I don't want to be in the dispute forums anymore... :( That was a younger, immature self!
     
  5. Unread #3 - Sep 27, 2016 at 9:24 PM
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    I am sorry to be so annoying but can someone please look into my post? I am banned for a very stupid thing and there is no reason it should take this long to handle.... it's been three days and it's gone untouched.

    I have been trying to contact the guys I dealt with back in the day but he has failed to accept my Skype request. If it makes any better I scammed him 5m but if he isn't going to reply I can just donate like 20 bucks. I'm not here to scam and my success in my business should be able to prove it. I admitted to doing what I did forever ago. Times have changed.

    Again, i apologize for replying a 3rd time. I just think I was kind of unfairly banned without any chance to defend myself.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Sep 27, 2016 at 10:48 PM
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    Their last view date on Powerbot was the 27th of August, so there is still a chance he may become active within a month and I'd like to have you wait out that full month (trying to message him every few days - I'd also suggest creating another Skype and adding him there as he may have you blocked.)

    Since @Astro made the ban, he can disagree/agree with what I just said.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Sep 28, 2016 at 1:33 AM
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    Yeah this is fine
     
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    I would like to add an update. I made a new Skype account and have been requesting for the person I scammed to add me on Skype; at least once everyday. It appears that the person does not use the same Skype as before, or just doesn't use Skype whatsoever. I will continue to do this but I am posting today to request something: if I was to donate 20 dollars (400% of what I took way back when from the PowerBot user) If I could be unbanned and continue my business as normal BUT still be obligated to get the victim his rightful money back. And If I am unable to get ahold of him, maybe something else would be asked of me on behalf of @Chloe or @Astro or @Sythe.

    My business has been extremely hurt from this ban, and I hate to see ALL my customers go.

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    I would also like to speak about a second post @CircleTrader made about me.
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    I have absolutely no idea why he/she feels the need to defame me and continue to bury my name in the definition of scamming.. I do think it is a bit unfair. I should be able to defend myself against someone trying to defame me "for the fun of it" as he said in a picture I posted in my initial appeal.
    I know what I did was wrong, and so does everyone else, no one is saying otherwise. I am not trying to make myself above the fact that I took 5m 07 from someone, but I obviously have grown from it and am MORE than willing to give it back, in fact I will be upset if I am unable to find the rightful owner. Anyone that uses Sythe as a form of business will know that staying legit and having the utmost professional business will bring in way more profitable than scamming one person for a set amount of money and losing everything you've worked for. I am not sure why @CircleTrader decided to pursue getting me banned, but I do not think it is right for him to do it to the extent he/she has. I don't know if there is disciplinary action for such thing, but he/she shouldn't be allowed to defame me for something that did not involve him at all.

    Thank you,
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  13. Unread #7 - Oct 9, 2016 at 6:32 PM
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    Give it a month for the scam victim to respond to you and you to pay them.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Oct 15, 2016 at 6:42 PM
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    @Excelont can close this one too i think
     
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    @Superfluous Please do not close this thread.

    I am still trying to get a hold of the guy. I send him a Skype request everyday on my personal skype and a new skype I made in case he has me blocked on my personal skype. I am still more than willing to pay back the 5m I took from him. It was so long ago when it happened, from the looks of it, he doesn't use the same skype account.
    I was asked to continue to try for a month.

    Its been around half a month and I have gotten no response. Yet @CircleTrader still feels the need to continue to stir the dirt around. Which in my opinion he should be told to stop because this incident does not even involve him.

    I was/am extremely successful in the RSPS gold community (easily top 3 for OSScape sellers without being a website owner) along with 07 Minigame Services and I am not going to just give my success up because he saw me as a threat to his business or whatever his reasoning behind his reports.

    I am doing what has been asked of me and I don't know what else there is for me to do. I have offered to donate 20 dollars which is 400% of the money I have to pay back along with the obligation to still attempt to give the 5m back if I ever hear from him. I am not looking to just sneak out of any disciplinary action, I just want to be able to do business again..

    Thank you,
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    Hello, I have found and gotten the attention of the guy I scammed previously for 5m. We talked (see pictures below) and agreed on a repayment amount and I paid it.

    Pictures of our Skype conversation!!

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    PM on Powerbot: Gyazo - f87d615b3e078983afb34db717fbc885.png

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    I apologize to the Staff and my past/current customers. I have grown and I love what I do within the Sythe community. I pledge to bring only the most professional business to any of my current/future customers. I hope you can see that my willingness and perseverance to repay the victim and the fact that I made it happen will prove that I am not what I have been labeled as.

    Thank you,
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  23. Unread #12 - Oct 27, 2016 at 11:26 PM
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  25. Unread #13 - Oct 28, 2016 at 12:07 AM
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    Scam victim has been repaid,
     
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