Ban Venmo From Sythe

[Pain]

Suggesting we ban the payment method Venmo & lock threads using it.

I sent an inquiry to venmo support heres the response I received:

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It's 100% unsafe to use, and merchants aren't allowed to use it.

This is just a scam fest, shouldn't be allowed on sythe, there is no way to protect urself from disputes.

Payments can be cancelled at any point and u'll auto lose.

Scam fest.

 

Do you have examples of people actually using it? I haven't ever seen it on Sythe so it would be fairly pointless to disallow it

 

[FireZ]

needs to be banned

 

[Agnostic]

Going to side with Bus here, mostly because he's somewhat legendary for having an account still at this point. I've only seen sketchy newcomers using Venmo to buy gold if I recall. If it was a legit way to transfer money safely, I'm sure more people would be using it.

Support

 

[Pain]

Do you have examples of people actually using it? I haven't ever seen it on Sythe so it would be fairly pointless to disallow it

Buying OSRS GP for Venmo

There's a new thread buying for Venmo almost every other day.

People are buying gold off people who don't realize its instantly reversible and poof, their scammed.

@Astro

 

I'm not familiar with it but if it's proven that it can be abused/manipulated easily I'll support the global ban of it

 

pretty sure those venmo threads are from the same guy/group of friends

support

 

highly support the ban of this payment method.

 

[Admires]

It's a free market. It shouldn't be banned. Just because it's against Venmo's terms of conditions doesn't mean we should just ban it.

If we're banning this, ban Paypal as well because it's pretty easy to get your money back from them too. Putting restrictions on payment methods just restricts the market.

If I trust someone enough for them to send me Venmo, let them use it.

 

[Pain]

It's a free market. It shouldn't be banned. Just because it's against Venmo's terms of conditions doesn't mean we should just ban it.

If we're banning this, ban Paypal as well because it's pretty easy to get your money back from them too. Putting restrictions on payment methods just restricts the market.

If I trust someone enough for them to send me Venmo, let them use it.

"Just because its against Venmo's TOS does not mean we shouldn't use it"- I don't even think I even need to comment on this.

"If we're banning this ban paypal to"- Why would we ban paypal, paypal u cant instantly reverse and u can fight disputes/chargebacks.

Putting restrictions on payment methods restricts the market- Yeah from scammers lol, what legitmate trader is going to be using INSTANTLY REVERSIBLE payment method?

If I trust someone enough for them to send me venmo let them use it- Keep it off Sythe


Thanks.

 

[Superfluous]

It's a free market. It shouldn't be banned. Just because it's against Venmo's terms of conditions doesn't mean we should just ban it.

If we're banning this, ban Paypal as well because it's pretty easy to get your money back from them too. Putting restrictions on payment methods just restricts the market.

If I trust someone enough for them to send me Venmo, let them use it.

my feelings exactly

also, venmo is owned by paypal... it shouldnt surprise anyone that their buyer/seller protection is flaky at best

also also, keep in mind that sythe is just a platform for willing traders to meet each other. we don't accept any forms of payment directly. it's up to the traders using the platform to determine by which means they want to conduct their transactions. we can - and should - have a warning that venmo is risky business, but banning it outright doesn't make sense

 

[Azie]

Support this should be banned. With so many payment methods available, anyone choosing to use this to pay just doesn't fit the bill for me. It sounds odd. This should be removed although Admires has a fair point, safety for users should come first.

 

[FireZ]

It's a free market. It shouldn't be banned. Just because it's against Venmo's terms of conditions doesn't mean we should just ban it.

If we're banning this, ban Paypal as well because it's pretty easy to get your money back from them too. Putting restrictions on payment methods just restricts the market.

If I trust someone enough for them to send me Venmo, let them use it.

difference between venmo and paypal is as clear as the sky on a sunny 90 degree day

 

[b1b]

va va voom! bus "1 million dollars" threesixnine saves the day!

 

[Admires]

difference between venmo and paypal is as clear as the sky on a sunny 90 degree day

If you want to ban Venmo, get rid of the Runescape account sales section.

You're essentially saying that if something is easy to get back, it should be banned. Runescape accounts fits this criteria. I don't know why Venmo is being targeted.

 

[Pain]

Venmo was created by paypal for people to use to send friends & family payments vs using paypal to do it.

Venmo is not a payment method meant to be used to purchase any form of goods(virtual or physical).

Venmo is miles off what paypal is, its meant to only be used between friends and family(which is why u can instantly reverse payments), it is not a safe method to allow users to market with(buying or selling).

People are abusing Venmo vs its intended purpose, Sythe staff need to step in and put a stop to it.

U cannot use the free market argument as Venmo is being used here against its intended purpose, Rs accounts and whatnot(admires above example) is completely & utterly invalid.

 

we can - and should - have a warning that venmo is risky business, but banning it outright doesn't make sense

Sounds like a solid alternative

 

[Admires]

Sounds like a solid alternative

Yes, just like the Runescape account sale section, where this is a warning that all accounts are recoverable.

If you want to really see scamming on Sythe, go to that section. It's an actual scam fest.

 

[Pain]

Sounds like a solid alternative

A warning isn't a valid solution, that's basically just telling people "hey Venmo is unsafe" when infact nobody on here should be using it in the first place.

Venmo was created by paypal for people to use to send friends & family payments vs using paypal to do it.

Venmo is not a payment method meant to be used to purchase any form of goods(virtual or physical).

Venmo is miles off what paypal is, its meant to only be used between friends and family(which is why u can instantly reverse payments), it is not a safe method to allow users to market with(buying or selling).

 

[Admires]

A warning isn't a valid solution, that's basically just telling people "hey Venmo is unsafe" when infact nobody on here should be using it in the first place.

Venmo was created by paypal for people to use to send friends & family payments vs using paypal to do it.

Venmo is not a payment method meant to be used to purchase any form of goods(virtual or physical).

Venmo is miles off what paypal is, its meant to only be used between friends and family(which is why u can instantly reverse payments), it is not a safe method to allow users to market with(buying or selling).

According to Jagex's ToS you can't sell gold, however, you still do. Stop using Vemno's ToS as a reason to ban it.

Also, Sythe is based on a free market. Account buying is very unsafe, and there has been attempts to ban it, however, it hasn't been banned because once again, Sythe is a free market and users are free to set the terms of a trade.

I don't get your logic of banning Venmo when there are numerous risky trades that go through Sythe everday, a big one being account trading.