Ariba and Magebets just straightup pulled a full on impostor ripoff on 10x the scale as the normal

Am I the only one completely like uh... at these reports?

Ariba and Magebets literally cloned sites and stole other peoples brand and than advertised it like it was that brand. Uhm… Can I just point out THATS IDENTICAL TO ALL THESE PARTYPETE/KAII/ETC impostors that are instantly perm banned? I mean its literally an impostor scam lol, they stole the brand, cloned the site, and tried passing it off as the legitimate one to steal peoples business lol.

That's like telling me if I cloned R2's site, changed the logo and advertised pleasentgold.com that I'd be fine to do so with no penalty.

Literally Ariba has been advertising magebets for months, admitted to using their agents to cash in and cash out on the site, even split the banner cost with them and your telling me that does not establish a partnership? Really? That's the conclusion staff reached that their customers feel that they aren't partnered? Money changing hands from Magebets paying Ariba, Them advertising on the same banner, Ariba advertising magebets, your telling me that does not establish a partnership to their customers?

What.

The worst part is this is not the first time Ariba has ripped branding/ideas off either lol, this dude has a habit of stealing ideas and branding and passing them as his own, this is *at least* the 3rd time, I caught up him straightup copy pasting portions of his original site from other sites and we all know where his price beater came from :eye_roll:

This is insulting, get some originality and stop ripping peoples content and brand off to make a buck its been a LONG time since I commented on a scam report but this is a joke , you deserve the same punishment as the gold site impostors, this is scum.

#roastmeSF #daddy #hi

 

But do those other sites own the rights to the names? If not it's legal for others to use them, no? Just as you don't have a patent on a price beater, anyone can use one.

 

The infringement comes when you attempt to pass off your remake as the original, on the base I'd say that cloning sites to steal the brand is TWC worthy for sure(Your stealing someone elses purchased work), but attempting to pass it off like Ariba and Magebets did as the original which Twistedtaco proved is a ban.

I'd repost that report if I was @twistedtaco and ask staff to re-determine if a partnership was established in the eyes of common sense to your common consumer, in my opinion he's got enough to do so.

 

@video this ruling is a disgrace srsly.

 

Yeah, I haven't really looked to see if he stole gfx and "cloned" the site but I mean, If they dont have the name trademarked I could plaster it all over anything lol. Imo the fault lies on the sites being "impostored" for having poor business practices in securing the rights to their branding.

 

I am re-filing the report on behalf of elite at this time.

 

wow

 

Tbh Divine is pretty much a mod in all but name, who wouldnt agree with him

 

I still love you panda ...

 

Didn’t ask btw

 

You know I just realized this might actually be a shot fired at me since I just applied for mod yesterday.

Had a lightbulb just now, sneaky panda.

That's not nice .

 

Its illegal OUT IN THE REAL WORLD. And in the COURT OF LAW. None of these sites are 'legal' in the practical sense. Believe me, if it were run as a legitimate business or the owners ever tried to register copyrights on their sites, given the magnitude of human traffic that goes through the sites, you'd see Jagex sending their legal teams to every corner of the globe filing lawsuits. And winning.

These sites are basically a place for people of similar interests(in this case gambling, rwt) to get together, and enjoy these activities. And yes, in the process, some of these people profit. Does it mean any of these sites are actual legitimate business on the ground? Nope. Just like how we dont openly recognise underground gambling dens and take out copyrights on gambling den names/property.

@RsRight was wrong in questioning the legality of these said sites and saying it is thus okay to imposter each other. The issue here is FAIR, MORAL practice of 'business'. These sites are run and handle their reputation on Sythe and other popular UNDERGROUND forums and so, ABIDE by the rules of these FORUMS, NOT real law; which explicitly outlaw impostering.

So your point that magebets is allowed to imposter other sites of similar nature simply because of the lack of copyright is moot and holds no ground in the SYTHE COURT. Show me where it says on SYTHE RULES that proof of impostering another 'business' nust include legal copyright status? Oh right. You can't. SYTHE rules are based on FAIRPLAY and FAIR practice and behavior, so by that basis, magebets already screwed up when he OPENLY ADMITTED to impostering other Sythe Users.


His further points to try and discredit the accusers by saying their business is 'illegal' and consitutes rwt blah blah is even more laughable. Hello? SYTHE is BUILT on the concept of RWT in runescape, which is ALSO what his WHOLE BUSINESS MODEL RELIES PRETTY FUCKING HEAVILY ON. Hypocrite much?

 

I cant tell what the fuck you just tried saying, I plugged it into google translator and all it spit out was "How the fuck am I suppose to know" so I'm going to assume your having a bad day.

 

TLDR: The point that magebets is allowed to imposter other gambling websites because those sites dont have copyright protection is a stupid point.

 

Go spend $100,000 on branding your website and than let others take it and use that brand however they want, let me know how that goes over.

It's called a court of common sense, sythe staff are not stupid. They reserve judgement case-by case and if you think anyone in their right mind is going to sit and say "Oh yeah this is fine, he's just ripping off all these brands and their owners we are not going to do anything" you might need to see a doctor, IRL does not always coincide with what sythe staff do or the rules, its common sense that if someone has a brand you cant rip that brand and steal it and use it as your own for your own benefit. That's fraud, plagiarism, theft of property, blackhat and a host of other nasty offences.

If magebets is going to try to argue IRL shit its not going to go over well, the biggest glaring issue in that argument is simply that the brands are the intellectual property of their creators, you don't need a patent or trademark to protect that sort of property if you can establish that the idea(or brand) was stolen and you had it first, you'll win. Since it's been established he used the brands he's toast on that alone let alone the 20 other things you could mention lol.

He's toast really, that entire case is over as far as I'm concerned, I'm just seeing if Ariba can get tied to them which I think he will.

 

Usually I'd go out of my way to figure out a way to make @Divine look like a spastic (which isn't hard)
but, sad to say I have to agree with him on this one

 

id say its an impostering but not an imposter scam.

yes they're stealing traffic/customers, but the partypete/kaii sites do scam people - unless magebets are actively scamming then i wouldnt brand them with the scam tag just yet

they havent stolen or cloned DDyce etc sites, they've just taken a similar domain name that wasnt in use in theory. No code etc was stolen unless im reading the reports wrong?

The site thats been cloned 6-7 times is Magebets site? Its just the domain names that have been taken but they were available?

Im not saying im agreeing with it, its 100% wrong and i agree they should be banned for what they've done - however think (at least in the OP) you've mixed some things up - or used examples that dont really match with what has gone on.

 

I think you overlooked the part where they used their domain names and pm discord member of the same group their domains had 'eliteranks' to 'elite-ranks' people 'dragon-dyce' to 'ddyce' people. This ofcouse isnt alright. Then they defended their actions by saying 'you don't have a gambling license' which in itself is an argument that go beyond reason that they were open about stealing members.

either way they were sketch af and ariba already pulled away from their partnership.

 

yeah definitely sketch, but i dont think there is a rule out there specifically about stealing members. Assuming no one had a trademark/copyright on their clan names?

I just meant above that the imposter sites got banned because they do legitimately scam people and are imposter scammers, not sure if thats the case here or not.